If it's not the clusterfuck of a U.I. or the tanky controls, it's the laughable jump. I'm using an Arbiter class, pumped the sensitivity up to 100% and my character is still a two-legged tank-Why? Also, sometimes the jump my character does is pathetic. I can barely jump off a ledge if I'm not sprinting first to gain momentum. Oh, and the damn hit detection. Sometimes I'm using the Assault Rifle at close-mid range and if I'm not burst-firing, timing my shots carefuly, I can't hit ****. But, if a player sees me from a mile away, I'm already limping away in whatever direction to avoid certain death. And how am I supposed to get SP in this game? After I've spent my initial amount, skills as low as L2 cost over 30k, which is what I make in 15+ games. Seriously, at best, I get 7k in a REALLY good match. 2-4k in an ok match and 2k in a poor match, which is my usual experience. I'm no noob, but I am certainly not used to these shoddy gameplay and overly complicated mechanics. And don't even tell me to look for a Wiki for information, because when a First Person Shooter requires you to go check out guide to understand something as simple as a marketplace, something is very, very wrong.

Now, I expect 1 out of 2 responses:


A) "Oh, this is too sophisticated for you CoD types"


B) " The world of EVE is a realistic one-blah, blah, blah"

C) 25% of the game is done.

And don't even tell me to look for a Wiki for information, because when a First Person Shooter requires you to go check out guide to understand something as simple as a marketplace, something is very, very wrong.

If it's not the clusterfuck of a U.I. or the tanky controls, it's the laughable jump. I'm using an Arbiter class, pumped the sensitivity up to 100% and my character is still a two-legged tank-Why? Also, sometimes the jump my character does is pathetic. I can barely jump off a ledge if I'm not sprinting first to gain momentum.

if I'm not burst-firing, timing my shots carefuly, I can't hit ****.

And how am I supposed to get SP in this game? After I've spent my initial amount, skills as low as L2 cost over 30k, which is what I make in 15+ games. Seriously, at best, I get 7k in a REALLY good match. 2-4k in an ok match and 2k in a poor match, which is my usual experience.

I'm using an Arbiter class, pumped the sensitivity up to 100% and my character is still a two-legged tank-Why?

If it's not the clusterfuck of a U.I. or the tanky controls, it's the laughable jump. I'm using an Arbiter class, pumped the sensitivity up to 100% and my character is still a two-legged tank-Why? Also, sometimes the jump my character does is pathetic. I can barely jump off a ledge if I'm not sprinting first to gain momentum. Oh, and the damn hit detection. Sometimes I'm using the Assault Rifle at close-mid range and if I'm not burst-firing, timing my shots carefuly, I can't hit ****. But, if a player sees me from a mile away, I'm already limping away in whatever direction to avoid certain death. And how am I supposed to get SP in this game? After I've spent my initial amount, skills as low as L2 cost over 30k, which is what I make in 15+ games. Seriously, at best, I get 7k in a REALLY good match. 2-4k in an ok match and 2k in a poor match, which is my usual experience. I'm no noob, but I am certainly not used to these shoddy gameplay and overly complicated mechanics. And don't even tell me to look for a Wiki for information, because when a First Person Shooter requires you to go check out guide to understand something as simple as a marketplace, something is very, very wrong.

Now, I expect 1 out of 2 responses:


A) "Oh, this is too sophisticated for you CoD types"


B) " The world of EVE is a realistic one-blah, blah, blah"

Im thinking this game is not for you. This is a thinking mans shooter. I agree with the controler issue though but that apprently is getting fixed

What the hell is wrong with you?

Tricked ya it was neither of those replies!

You're exactly the same as all of the people that make similar threads " I'm not a noob it must be the games fault that I suck"
How to get sp? Play the ******* game is a good start, and stop being impatient, you expect to max out everything in a couple do days.

TL;DR paragraphs help.

Not my damn fault you have the attention span of a mosquito.

What the hell is wrong with this game?

"Thinking man's shooter" Hahahahahahahahahaha!!

What the hell is wrong with you?

Tricked ya it was neither of those replies!

You're exactly the same as all of the people that make similar threads " I'm not a noob it must be the games fault that I suck"
How to get sp? Play the ******* game is a good start, and stop being impatient, you expect to max out everything in a couple do days.

TL;DR paragraphs help.

man when i joined closed beta i didnt even bother asking all these questions, i just went through the trial of fire, i learned it the hard way with no bitching about the game. and it doesnt take that long to understand how the game works etc etc noobs are just too damn lazy.

after seeing all these posts i think the noobs are just too spoiled from other FPS games, and they expect ccp to change it to a normal FPS >_>

Wtf guys...is this how you expect this game to succeed? By telling people that this isn't the game for them??

Most people, including myself, isn't going to be hooked at first glance. Especially when getting smoked all thetime. Just give tips and keep it moving. OP has a legitimate complaint for one who hasn't been playing for months. He doesn't know what's going on and need to be educated.

Anyway.....you can't bunny hop in dust like other shooters as you deplete your stamina. And the sp gain will change...the one we have now sucks and the devs know it. We voted for the best system and they will implement. But do realize this is an fpsmmo so tere will be an sp cap. But the new system will be tolerable.

you call this guy "people"? he's standoffish self entitled little priick...

I will give you answer A. Stop trying to quickscope.

Also, I'm not sure if it's still like this, but turning sensitivity to 100 is the slowest, and 0 is the fastest, last time I checked.

Wtf guys...is this how you expect this game to succeed? By telling people that this isn't the game for them??

Most people, including myself, isn't going to be hooked at first glance. Especially when getting smoked all thetime. Just give tips and keep it moving. OP has a legitimate complaint for one who hasn't been playing for months. He doesn't know what's going on and need to be educated.

Anyway.....you can't bunny hop in dust like other shooters as you deplete your stamina. And the sp gain will change...the one we have now sucks and the devs know it. We voted for the best system and they will implement. But do realize this is an fpsmmo so tere will be an sp cap. But the new system will be tolerable.

He says it takes him 15 games to earn 30,000 SP...

Obvious scrub is obvious.

EDIT: Pro tip - turn you sensitivity way down. Controller isn't a mouse.

He says it takes him 15 games to earn 30,000 SP...

Obvious scrub is obvious.

EDIT: Pro tip - turn you sensitivity way down. Controller isn't a mouse.

Wtf guys...is this how you expect this game to succeed? By telling people that this isn't the game for them??

Most people, including myself, isn't going to be hooked at first glance. Especially when getting smoked all thetime. Just give tips and keep it moving. OP has a legitimate complaint for one who hasn't been playing for months. He doesn't know what's going on and need to be educated.

He's a scrub...so what? Does that mean he shouldn't play??

If he's going to ***** about it yes. If he just deals with it and learns to play like hunderds of other people, then fine he can play.

Most people are sick of arrogant idiots like him that think their opinion is the only one that matters. He didn't even bother to look at the sections of the forums and realise this is feedback and not a general discussion.

Quite frankly this game could do without people that come QQing to the forums because they got their arse handed to them. Don't blame the game, you'll never improve that way.

When ever i can answer newbies' questions about the game i will.

But when people come in and say it has to be like this and its too complex then well they just want the game to be built their way and dont give a **** about what other people want.

When ever i can answer newbies' questions about the game i will.

But when people come in and say it has to be like this and its too complex then well they just want the game to be built their way and dont give a **** about what other people want.

No, I'm complaining because I am frustrated. I'm not asking for anyone to change the game. This is just how I voice my opinion after failing games with no end. And to a certain user saying I came off as a prick, it's because I am a prick, but like I said, I'm also frustrated and new. I checked the tutorials for skills, the marketplace and the game modes, but nothing explained in full detail.

No, I'm complaining because I am frustrated. I'm not asking for anyone to change the game. This is just how I voice my opinion after failing games with no end. And to a certain user saying I came off as a prick, it's because I am a prick, but like I said, I'm also frustrated and new. I checked the tutorials for skills, the marketplace and the game modes, but nothing explained in full detail.

No, I'm complaining because I am frustrated. I'm not asking for anyone to change the game. This is just how I voice my opinion after failing games with no end. And to a certain user saying I came off as a prick, it's because I am a prick, but like I said, I'm also frustrated and new. I checked the tutorials for skills, the marketplace and the game modes, but nothing explained in full detail.

If it's not the clusterfuck of a U.I. or the tanky controls, it's the laughable jump. I'm using an Arbiter class, pumped the sensitivity up to 100% and my character is still a two-legged tank-Why? Also, sometimes the jump my character does is pathetic. I can barely jump off a ledge if I'm not sprinting first to gain momentum. Oh, and the damn hit detection. Sometimes I'm using the Assault Rifle at close-mid range and if I'm not burst-firing, timing my shots carefuly, I can't hit ****. But, if a player sees me from a mile away, I'm already limping away in whatever direction to avoid certain death. And how am I supposed to get SP in this game? After I've spent my initial amount, skills as low as L2 cost over 30k, which is what I make in 15+ games. Seriously, at best, I get 7k in a REALLY good match. 2-4k in an ok match and 2k in a poor match, which is my usual experience. I'm no noob, but I am certainly not used to these shoddy gameplay and overly complicated mechanics. And don't even tell me to look for a Wiki for information, because when a First Person Shooter requires you to go check out guide to understand something as simple as a marketplace, something is very, very wrong.

Now, I expect 1 out of 2 responses:


A) "Oh, this is too sophisticated for you CoD types"


B) " The world of EVE is a realistic one-blah, blah, blah"

Ignoring all the posts telling me to seek counsel, like I'm punking the keys in furious anger and stress, why is every kit I had yesterday suddenly Invalid? They're all red and in zeros and I can't restock them. What happened?

If you have an invalid fitting then you have ran out of something or youre using up too much cpu or pg.You only have to run out of one thing for a fitting to become invalid (grenade, shield regulator, dropsuit etc, unless its bpo)

And going by your op it sounds like you're doing more than punching the keys, it sounds like you're ready to kill you're neighbors dog in frustration lol

Thank you to whoever told me that Sensitivity is inverted, so that 0% is actually faster than 100%, which is what I'm used to from every other Shooter, both FPS and TPS. Much appreciation to the many people who held their nuts and actually gave me constructive criticism rather than indulge themselves in hipocrisy, letting me know what a huge noob I am and how they're always nonchalant about everything. Thanks.

I'll be taking my sweet time to level up what I can, but seriously, 2k-ish SP is what I usually get in an Ambush match. Not sure about the Domination-type mode, becaus we always lose, but that's my average SP-gain. anything higher is just me on a lucky roll.


Also, is there a way to not use the default spawn point that places me infront of an enemy's crosshairs, killing me before I have a chance to turn around?

PS: Btw, will the game cost anything when it officialy releases?

Bump? I have new questions I'd like answered.

Thank you to whoever told me that Sensitivity is inverted, so that 0% is actually faster than 100%, which is what I'm used to from every other Shooter, both FPS and TPS. Much appreciation to the many people who held their nuts and actually gave me constructive criticism rather than indulge themselves in hipocrisy, letting me know what a huge noob I am and how they're always nonchalant about everything. Thanks.

I'll be taking my sweet time to level up what I can, but seriously, 2k-ish SP is what I usually get in an Ambush match. Not sure about the Domination-type mode, becaus we always lose, but that's my average SP-gain. anything higher is just me on a lucky roll.

Also, is there a way to not use the default spawn point that places me infront of an enemy's crosshairs, killing me before I have a chance to turn around?

Also, is it me or is Melee utterly useless? And how do you use the Nova Knife? I charged the damn thing, hit him with it and even though I started to just melee him, he managed to turn around and shoot me dead.

Also, my 6 shooter and 3-mag Sniper Rifle are not 7 and 5 respectively. What happened?

PS: Btw, will the game cost anything when it officialy releases?

dubbs i think the response he is getting is in correlation to the attitude he projected when writing his post. We as testers want to have GOOD feedback and despite all the trolling we do try to enforce and etiquette with regards to new player posts.

I remember before i even started with my character class i came to these forums and looked at what each class is designed to do The website has great starting info with a FAQ section and information on classes, weapons, factions, vehicles etc.

After familiarizing myself with that i wrote these posts and looked at these posts

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=20621&find=unread

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=427335#post427335

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=43208&find=unread

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=430446#post430446

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=431255#post431255

Additionally i spent some time in training ground and read up on stuff.

Then i figured out how to activate comms and screen team chat for mics. When i realized most people were staying in squad chat i would move from squad to squad until i found players with comms and talked to them

Thanks PHI Thirdcoast you were one of the first players i spoke with in dust, Actually i take it back Dubbs you were the very first.

I stumbled and struggled for the first week but i kept telling myself it was the SP gap and i will get there and then the reset came and i got there(still got a ways to go) but always kept improving.

Now im not saying i was saint and didnt have my share of antagonistic posts but that was in due to years spent in other game forums where people were too myopic and irrational to do anything else but talk smack and put each other down. But i soon changed because i realized here the players responded to maturity with maturity and flaming with flaming.

Perhaps its my OCD but i ALWAYS read the Strat guide/Game manual before i play a game because i want to have a cursory knowledge of the game so i can build upon it with ingame experience and trial/error.


Edit-- It already seems like he's changing his tune and getting helpful feedback in response. See it works.

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