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C Saunders
Serenity Prime Kraken.
158
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Posted - 2013.01.16 18:45:00 -
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By all means the daily cap is far from perfect but I find it much more fun than what the weekly cap was. The weekly cap made the game so dull and boring. |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
968
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Posted - 2013.01.16 18:48:00 -
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Yes you are the only one. |
C Saunders
Serenity Prime Kraken.
158
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Posted - 2013.01.16 18:50:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Yes you are the only one.
Deep, Deep down. I already knew this... |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
95
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Posted - 2013.01.16 18:52:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:By all means the daily cap is far from perfect but I find it much more fun than what the weekly cap was. The weekly cap made the game so dull and boring.
This ------^ = a cry for help that you do not have a real life. |
C Saunders
Serenity Prime Kraken.
158
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Posted - 2013.01.16 18:58:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:C Saunders wrote:By all means the daily cap is far from perfect but I find it much more fun than what the weekly cap was. The weekly cap made the game so dull and boring. This ------^ = a cry for help that you do not have a real life.
I don't see the logic in that comment, but when I started getting less than 1k SP for a game halfway through the week, I would just think, screw this, and I would wait for the reset.
Now the daily cap doesn't have all this diminishing returns bollocks. Which is a good thing in my opinion. |
lordjanuz
Norwegian Dust514 Corporation
88
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:00:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:By all means the daily cap is far from perfect but I find it much more fun than what the weekly cap was. The weekly cap made the game so dull and boring.
+1 I like it. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:01:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:By all means the daily cap is far from perfect but I find it much more fun than what the weekly cap was. The weekly cap made the game so dull and boring.
I am loving it dude |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1899
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:01:00 -
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<3 the daily cap, only entitled scrubs are really mad about it. My only complaint is that you HAVE to get on each day. If they could somehow roll over any missed SP throughout the week, without letting you go over that max cap, and resetting the cap at the end of each week, I think it would be absolutely perfect. That way you could still miss a few days, and if you play your ass off, you can still keep up with everyone else.
Rate of SP is just about perfect. |
Panoscape
BurgezzE.T.F
107
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:03:00 -
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The weekly cap was nice because I could play for a day or two during the week and hit the cap and get all my SP. This freed up the rest of the week to take care of real world responsibilities.
Now, I have to play every day if I want my max SP... it's become a job.
With a family, a real job and other interests, this has become a chore. It has me seriously looking at AFK SP farming in the MCC while I take care of my real life obligations that I have around the house.
I'd rather have only passive SP than this, it would be less of a chore and it would take away the grinding aspect of the game.
EDIT: I agree with the suggestion of a SP accrue system, that would make me happy. So if we missed a few days I could play and catch up. |
R F Gyro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
315
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:03:00 -
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I don't like it, but I think its better.
I need to stop thinking about what's best for the game, and start thinking about whats best for me personally I guess |
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C Saunders
Serenity Prime Kraken.
158
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:12:00 -
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Panoscape wrote:The weekly cap was nice because I could play for a day or two during the week and hit the cap and get all my SP. This freed up the rest of the week to take care of real world responsibilities.
Now, I have to play every day if I want my max SP... it's become a job.
With a family, a real job and other interests, this has become a chore. It has me seriously looking at AFK SP camping in the MCC while I take care of my real life obligations that I have around the house.
I'd rather have only passive SP than this, it would be less of a chore and it would take away the grinding aspect of the game.
To be honest though, why do most people think they have to keep up all the time. So what if you miss a day or even a week?
Look at virtually all competitive FPS's on consoles, they all have a progression system. You always get players WAY ahead of you. I don't know if it's because most of you are EVE players but if you fall behind in a console FPS, why give a ****. It's a game, you'll always get someone ahead of you.
It's pathetic really, in any game if you don't play a lot you will fall behind but in this game everyone thinks they should all be at the same level. Imagine if all the open beta players join these forums and start saying "Aw, it's unfair you have a head start", but how many of you would actually care, you'd just tell them to HTFU.
And I say that to all of you complaining about being behind. HTFU. |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
95
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:24:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:Panoscape wrote:The weekly cap was nice because I could play for a day or two during the week and hit the cap and get all my SP. This freed up the rest of the week to take care of real world responsibilities.
Now, I have to play every day if I want my max SP... it's become a job.
With a family, a real job and other interests, this has become a chore. It has me seriously looking at AFK SP camping in the MCC while I take care of my real life obligations that I have around the house.
I'd rather have only passive SP than this, it would be less of a chore and it would take away the grinding aspect of the game. To be honest though, why do most people think they have to keep up all the time. So what if you miss a day or even a week? Look at virtually all competitive FPS's on consoles, they all have a progression system. You always get players WAY ahead of you. I don't know if it's because most of you are EVE players but if you fall behind in a console FPS, why give a ****. It's a game, you'll always get someone ahead of you. It's pathetic really, in any game if you don't play a lot you will fall behind but in this game everyone thinks they should all be at the same level. Imagine if all the open beta players join these forums and start saying "Aw, it's unfair you have a head start", but how many of you would actually care, you'd just tell them to HTFU. And I say that to all of you complaining about being behind. HTFU.
You had to bring the HTFU into this debate, thank you for proving my point about you not having a real life.
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Sephirian Fair
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
48
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:25:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:Panoscape wrote:The weekly cap was nice because I could play for a day or two during the week and hit the cap and get all my SP. This freed up the rest of the week to take care of real world responsibilities.
Now, I have to play every day if I want my max SP... it's become a job.
With a family, a real job and other interests, this has become a chore. It has me seriously looking at AFK SP camping in the MCC while I take care of my real life obligations that I have around the house.
I'd rather have only passive SP than this, it would be less of a chore and it would take away the grinding aspect of the game. To be honest though, why do most people think they have to keep up all the time. So what if you miss a day or even a week? Look at virtually all competitive FPS's on consoles, they all have a progression system. You always get players WAY ahead of you. I don't know if it's because most of you are EVE players but if you fall behind in a console FPS, why give a ****. It's a game, you'll always get someone ahead of you. It's pathetic really, in any game if you don't play a lot you will fall behind but in this game everyone thinks they should all be at the same level. Imagine if all the open beta players join these forums and start saying "Aw, it's unfair you have a head start", but how many of you would actually care, you'd just tell them to HTFU. And I say that to all of you complaining about being behind. HTFU.
It's not about being behind, it's about falling behind and not being able to get that SP even when we can play. As a college student, I am mostly only able to play on the weekends. I spend all my week doing school work while my weekends are usually quite free.
This daily cap with no roll over sucks, because I could put 10 or so hours on this game over the course of a Saturday or Sunday, but I get shafted because of the daily hard cap. It doesn't matter how much I play on the weekends when I have time, I don't get any SP despite playing more than what some people casually play over the course of a week.
"It's pathetic really, in any game if you don't play a lot you will fall behind but in this game everyone thinks they should all be at the same level."
There's a big difference. In any other game, if you have the time to play, you can play your ass off and catch up. The fact is, I and a lot of other people can play more on a Saturday and Sunday than a lot of people play during the entire week, but we're the ones getting shafted, only getting 2 days worth of SP, despite playing more than the casuals that play everyday. |
C Saunders
Serenity Prime Kraken.
158
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:26:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:C Saunders wrote:Panoscape wrote:The weekly cap was nice because I could play for a day or two during the week and hit the cap and get all my SP. This freed up the rest of the week to take care of real world responsibilities.
Now, I have to play every day if I want my max SP... it's become a job.
With a family, a real job and other interests, this has become a chore. It has me seriously looking at AFK SP camping in the MCC while I take care of my real life obligations that I have around the house.
I'd rather have only passive SP than this, it would be less of a chore and it would take away the grinding aspect of the game. To be honest though, why do most people think they have to keep up all the time. So what if you miss a day or even a week? Look at virtually all competitive FPS's on consoles, they all have a progression system. You always get players WAY ahead of you. I don't know if it's because most of you are EVE players but if you fall behind in a console FPS, why give a ****. It's a game, you'll always get someone ahead of you. It's pathetic really, in any game if you don't play a lot you will fall behind but in this game everyone thinks they should all be at the same level. Imagine if all the open beta players join these forums and start saying "Aw, it's unfair you have a head start", but how many of you would actually care, you'd just tell them to HTFU. And I say that to all of you complaining about being behind. HTFU. You had to bring the HTFU into this debate, thank you for proving my point about you not having a real life.
Your logic confuses me... |
Bojo The Mighty
Bojo's School of the Trades
428
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:27:00 -
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I like a daily Rolling Cap, so you can either play like two days and equate to someone who played everyday. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:28:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:BMSTUBBY wrote: You had to bring the HTFU into this debate, thank you for proving my point about you not having a real life.
Your logic confuses me...
Ignore him like you would ignore say a moron |
Knarf Black
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
397
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:30:00 -
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...and my axe!
I think it will be much less of an issue when people have their passive skills and specializations up to snuff. Right now, while we're all fairly weak, having more SP than the other guy means you have more health, more damage, and longer range. Eventually, having more SP will just mean that you have more trained up tools in your arsenal than the other guy. Then it won't feel like so much of a race to the top of the SP pile. |
C Saunders
Serenity Prime Kraken.
158
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:36:00 -
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Sephirian Fair wrote:C Saunders wrote:Panoscape wrote:The weekly cap was nice because I could play for a day or two during the week and hit the cap and get all my SP. This freed up the rest of the week to take care of real world responsibilities.
Now, I have to play every day if I want my max SP... it's become a job.
With a family, a real job and other interests, this has become a chore. It has me seriously looking at AFK SP camping in the MCC while I take care of my real life obligations that I have around the house.
I'd rather have only passive SP than this, it would be less of a chore and it would take away the grinding aspect of the game. To be honest though, why do most people think they have to keep up all the time. So what if you miss a day or even a week? Look at virtually all competitive FPS's on consoles, they all have a progression system. You always get players WAY ahead of you. I don't know if it's because most of you are EVE players but if you fall behind in a console FPS, why give a ****. It's a game, you'll always get someone ahead of you. It's pathetic really, in any game if you don't play a lot you will fall behind but in this game everyone thinks they should all be at the same level. Imagine if all the open beta players join these forums and start saying "Aw, it's unfair you have a head start", but how many of you would actually care, you'd just tell them to HTFU. And I say that to all of you complaining about being behind. HTFU. It's not about being behind, it's about falling behind and not being able to get that SP even when we can play. As a college student, I am mostly only able to play on the weekends. I spend all my week doing school work while my weekends are usually quite free. This daily cap with no roll over sucks, because I could put 10 or so hours on this game over the course of a Saturday or Sunday, but I get shafted because of the daily hard cap. It doesn't matter how much I play on the weekends when I have time, I don't get any SP despite playing more than what some people casually play over the course of a week. "It's pathetic really, in any game if you don't play a lot you will fall behind but in this game everyone thinks they should all be at the same level." There's a big difference. In any other game, if you have the time to play, you can play your ass off and catch up. The fact is, I and a lot of other people can play more on a Saturday and Sunday than a lot of people play during the entire week, but we're the ones getting shafted, only getting 2 days worth of SP, despite playing more than the casuals that play everyday.
I'm not saying a cap roll over would be bad, if anything I would love a cap roll over. At the moment though there is no cap roll over and I don't really care if I don't get a days SP. It doesn't bother me that much that I complain my arse off about it. (Not saying you personally are, but a lot of people on the forums are.) |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
95
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:39:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:C Saunders wrote:BMSTUBBY wrote: You had to bring the HTFU into this debate, thank you for proving my point about you not having a real life.
Your logic confuses me... Ignore him like you would ignore say a moron
Takes one to know one. |
C Saunders
Serenity Prime Kraken.
158
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:43:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:C Saunders wrote:BMSTUBBY wrote: You had to bring the HTFU into this debate, thank you for proving my point about you not having a real life.
Your logic confuses me... Ignore him like you would ignore say a moron Takes one to know one.
You had to bring the "Takes one to know one" quote into this debate, thank you for proving my point about you not having a real life.
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psyanyde
CrimeWave Syndicate
12
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Posted - 2013.01.16 19:48:00 -
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Current SP Gains = Hit cap do something else for a lot of people. If I was a game dev, I would be looking to go against that line of thinking. There's a middle ground between that and ZOMG PEOPLE HIT PROTO IN 2 DAYS AND ARE PWNING ME!!!11!!!11!!!
New content upon the open beta and a re-vamped SP system or a promise of one shortly after would keep people's attention.
If there's not I don't see the majority of new people staying after the influx (if there actually is one, that's yet to be seen.).
I'd like to be optimistic, but with this and other things it's a tad hard to be.
I do hope CCP proves me wrong however. |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
95
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Posted - 2013.01.16 20:07:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:BMSTUBBY wrote:Sentient Archon wrote:C Saunders wrote:BMSTUBBY wrote: You had to bring the HTFU into this debate, thank you for proving my point about you not having a real life.
Your logic confuses me... Ignore him like you would ignore say a moron Takes one to know one. You had to bring the "Takes one to know one" quote into this debate, thank you for proving my point about you not having a real life.
+1
Now you are catching on.
Sad part about it is that I am at work right now getting paid a very good salary to have a debate about no real life.
What are you doing? |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2013.01.16 20:13:00 -
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BMSTUBBY wrote:+1
Now you are catching on.
Sad part about it is that I am at work right now getting paid a very good salary to have a debate about no real life.
What are you doing?
Someone actually gave a dumbass like you a job? Being an orderly at an insame assylum or an inmate in the central jail doesnt really count as a very good salary |
BMSTUBBY
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
95
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:06:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:BMSTUBBY wrote:+1
Now you are catching on.
Sad part about it is that I am at work right now getting paid a very good salary to have a debate about no real life.
What are you doing? Someone actually gave a dumbass like you a job? Being an orderly at an insame assylum or an inmate in the central jail doesnt really count as a very good salary
LoL, you pay to win you trihard.
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Icy Tiger
Universal Allies Inc.
1026
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Posted - 2013.01.16 22:15:00 -
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C Saunders wrote:BMSTUBBY wrote:C Saunders wrote:By all means the daily cap is far from perfect but I find it much more fun than what the weekly cap was. The weekly cap made the game so dull and boring. This ------^ = a cry for help that you do not have a real life. I don't see the logic in that comment, but when I started getting less than 1k SP for a game halfway through the week, I would just think, screw this, and I would wait for the reset. Now the daily cap doesn't have all this diminishing returns bollocks. Which is a good thing in my opinion.
Wait what? Daily cap does have diminishing returns, extreme ones, of only 50 sp per match. Also, if I miss a day, there is no way to get it back other than playing 1000 matches on another day when my cap's been hit. |
RedBleach LeSanglant
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
136
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Posted - 2013.01.17 06:52:00 -
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It is far from perfect. Closer to good. But still on the stinky side of ok.
I still want to see a cumulative pot to dip into to make up for lost time. I know that there are many variations on the same idea. But still not implemented well. |
Vance Alken
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
94
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:00:00 -
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It makes hardcore players mad because they can't keep skilling up their main.
It makes casual players mad because they're losing SP when they don't play for 2 hours every day.
Who was this made for? |
Repe Susi
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
249
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:07:00 -
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Who REALISTICALLY plays everyday, every week, every month and even to every year? Nobody.
This talk of missing the possible SP by not getting to play is mostly useless.
Sadly, I can imagine the HC players crying about one missing day because 'I can't keep up' but let's be real here, what does one, two days matter if you are going to play this game for a long time?
Also I have even now been hearing talk about missing work to get the daily SP. Sad.
Oh, and I kind of like the daily cap. Could be better but for now it's good enough. |
Kreayshawn Coruscanti
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
114
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:13:00 -
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The only positive thing I've ever heard about the new daily cap is the lack of diminishing returns, but the lack of diminishing returns has nothing to do specifically with the daily cap. We could have had the old weekly cap, a monthly cap, a universal all-time cap, or even no cap with no diminishing returns. This daily cap has gotten nothing but hate aside from the fix to diminishing returns.
Also, having SP rollover from the daily cap is just likening it even more to our old weekly cap.
Why are we on a daily cap?
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Imp Smash
On The Brink
51
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Posted - 2013.01.17 07:19:00 -
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Skihids wrote:Yes you are the only one. +1 |
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