DUST Search - Open Beta: Noob's Doom's Day

Foley Jones wrote:

Th3rdSun wrote:

Ranger SnakeBlood wrote:

This is exactly what i fear they will hit the wall of vets and say **** this and give up on DUST and not only that would probably spread the word to others of the same mentality, some will probably stick to it but very few will have patience and a want to be effectivly beaten repeatedly. When DUST goes live it NEEDS a Sp wipe, and the sp system needs to be made viable for people who A: dont play every day(roll over is a fix) and B: people who start a month or 2 into developpment(a DUST wide roll over would make it possible but not easy to catch up)

This is my feeling too,and I have been wondering if CCP is totally clueless of this,but then I just started thinking,why would CCP not reset? What is the point of it? Then it just hit me.

CCP is banking on that those noobs that are getting abused by vets will like the game so much ,yet hate that they are so far behind,that they are going to start spending money on AUR in an effort to catch up or at least stand on equal footing with the vets.If this is what CCP is banking on,it will surely blow up in their faces,as most console gamers would rather move on to another game,than spend money on what is advertised as a Free To Play game in order to compete with people that are going to be handed a clear advantage from the start.

Whatever CCP says,I'm still not convinced that they aren't going to do a reset for launch.I just don't see how they figure that this is going to go over well with the new players that they are trying to attract to the game.

You have a point but I believe its confirmed that there will be no more resets, CCP is telling us this is a head start so why would they be like "oh sorry I know we said we gave you a head start but uh...wipe" I mean sure the free points. But it wouldent feel like a head start...besides we JUST had a wipe...people will be raging like no tommorow on the fourms I promise you

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Draconis Ulfhednar BetaMax. 15	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:13:00 - [1] - Quote I was thinking back on all of the events that have occurred in our history with this beta. Every time there is a wipe, we have been moving on to a whole new build, a whole new world. We have now gone from one server to the next, with no change in build. We already have fought through our kinks and strategies involving our character progression. We know what we want and how were going to go about attaining it. When the 22nd or whenever we hit open beta arrives, the noobzors will arrive to find the Vets armed to the teeth and ready for their free moneyz and SP. I envision the arrival of the Open Beta to be the same as the video you see when you turn on the game: Decked out heavies with lazors, HMGs, and Duvolles, versus the hundreds of Caldari Assault suits, smashing themselves against our walls as we simply stand there and watch the glorious greenhorn slaughter.
Arramakaian Eka Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 363	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:15:00 - [2] - Quote Yes, and this is why there must be a wipe at launch.
Val'herik Dorn CrimeWave Syndicate 263	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:16:00 - [3] - Quote And a glorious slaughter shall it be...
YourDeadAgain76 Red Star. 133	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:19:00 - [4] - Quote Arramakaian Eka wrote: Yes, and this is why there must be a wipe at launch. Greenhorns alway the one to die or get hurt on the deadliest catch to i say save the geenhorns them noobs deserve a chance. Save them, save them. seriously i was assuming there would be 1 more reset/wipe at launch. Or if there aint that will explain the crapt sp cap..... so we cant be gods destroying all the noobs
YourDeadAgain76 Red Star. 133	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:21:00 - [5] - Quote Val'herik Dorn wrote: And a glorious slaughter shall it be... +! U got a like for saying "glorious slaughter" it really has a ring to it. think im gonna delete a secondary and remane em that.
Noraa Anderson Nox Aeterna Security 184	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:24:00 - [6] - Quote Won't you be a little busy with Faction Warfare and Corp battles to pubstomp poor little xXEL1T3Pr0SN1P3RXx and his chums? That is even if CCP doesn't update the build to protect them from you gnarly veterans until they've got some dirt under their boots.
Lady Hyuna Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:28:00 - [7] - Quote The only way a green horn learns how to play the game efficiently is through deaths, or play medic.
Ranger SnakeBlood OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 126	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:28:00 - [8] - Quote This is exactly what i fear they will hit the wall of vets and say **** this and give up on DUST and not only that would probably spread the word to others of the same mentality, some will probably stick to it but very few will have patience and a want to be effectivly beaten repeatedly. When DUST goes live it NEEDS a Sp wipe, and the sp system needs to be made viable for people who A: dont play every day(roll over is a fix) and B: people who start a month or 2 into developpment(a DUST wide roll over would make it possible but not easy to catch up)
Telcontar Dunedain Imperfects Negative-Feedback 328	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:32:00 - [9] - Quote Lady Hyuna wrote: The only way a green horn learns how to play the game efficiently is through deaths, or play medic. Pretty much this. There is way too much qq and worry about the newbs. People learn games by dieing. You all need to stfu, die more often, and get better.
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 711	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:34:00 - [10] - Quote Telcontar Dunedain wrote: Lady Hyuna wrote: The only way a green horn learns how to play the game efficiently is through deaths, or play medic. Pretty much this. There is way too much qq and worry about the newbs. People learn games by dieing. You all need to htfu, die more often, and get better. Fixed that for ya.

YourDeadAgain76 Red Star. 133	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:37:00 - [11] - Quote Telcontar Dunedain wrote: Lady Hyuna wrote: The only way a green horn learns how to play the game efficiently is through deaths, or play medic. Pretty much this. There is way too much qq and worry about the newbs. People learn games by dieing. You all need to stfu, die more often, and get better. LOL Ur Funny
Iron Wolf Saber BetaMax. 2866	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:38:00 - [12] - Quote We should have a wipe every day!
56 truth Algintal Core Gallente Federation 73	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:39:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: We should have a wipe every day! that or the game being delayed a year or so at the least
YourDeadAgain76 Red Star. 133	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:41:00 - [14] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: We should have a wipe every day! LOL yep that will P!$$ people off. LOL
Noraa Anderson Nox Aeterna Security 184	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:41:00 - [15] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: We should have a wipe every day! -Get rid of all skills -Get rid of SP -Get rid of all gear except Militia Perfection!
Lady Hyuna Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:46:00 - [16] - Quote Noraa Anderson wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: We should have a wipe every day! -Get rid of all skills -Get rid of SP -Get rid of all gear except Militia Perfection! Why even have gear period! Lets just run naked around the battle field and slap each other to death! meele=Slap with the hand. Nova nife= A plastic hand on end of a stick. Laser Rifle= Hand made from laser on a stick. sniper rifle= Thowing a a plastic hand. Reviving = Slapping them until they come to.
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 711	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:46:00 - [17] - Quote It will be like HALO! :D
56 truth Algintal Core Gallente Federation 73	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:48:00 - [18] - Quote Lady Hyuna wrote: Noraa Anderson wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: We should have a wipe every day! -Get rid of all skills -Get rid of SP -Get rid of all gear except Militia Perfection! Why even have gear period! Lets just run naked around the battle field and slap each other to death! meele=Slap with the hand. Nova nife= A plastic hand on end of a stick. Laser Rifle= Hand made from laser on a stick. sniper rifle= Thowing a a plastic hand. Reviving = Slapping them until they come to. all guns beside the ones above are air soft guns or painball guns
SCAT mania Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 76	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:49:00 - [19] - Quote Around how many beta tester are there now? And how much are expected when open beta?
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 338	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:53:00 - [20] - Quote If this was an issue cod and halo would have failed a long time ago

Foley Jones R.I.f.t 122	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:54:00 - [21] - Quote Yep! I can't wait for my inbox to get blown up by all the cod fanboys saying I have no life and braging that they got a 6+ k.d on BO2 (which they obviously don't) :D Scew it just open the beta NOW so I can go ahead and have this happen :D
Kira Lannister Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 711	Posted - 2013.01.13 20:58:00 - [22] - Quote If you guys even remotely like dust 514, stop hoping that battle field, modern warfare, halo player base fans won't like this game. You think this game will stay afloat with a hard core player base of 1,000? This game needs a good population if it wants to thrive. TROLL SPEAK: USE LUBE
56 truth Algintal Core Gallente Federation 73	Posted - 2013.01.13 21:01:00 - [23] - Quote as long as this game dose not try to compete with thouse game we are in the clear......for the most part
Foley Jones R.I.f.t 122	Posted - 2013.01.13 21:02:00 - [24] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: If you guys even remotely like dust 514, stop hoping that battle field, modern warfare, halo player base fans won't like this game. You think this game will stay afloat with a hard core player base of 1,000? This game needs a good population if it wants to thrive. TROLL SPEAK: USE LUBE I agree 1+...but the thing is though, we only assume stuff like this because IT HAPPENS IN EVERY FPS GAME ON THE MARKET
Lady Hyuna Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2013.01.13 21:03:00 - [25] - Quote SCAT mania wrote: Around how many beta tester are there now? And how much are expected when open beta? I don't know how many people there are now, but I can expect a lot of people coming into it to check it out. Lot people tend to flawk to free FPS games specially from well known companies and its on ps3... I mean look at Halo, Dust has some halo feeling to it. In my opinion better than Halo and its free with micro transition... And CCP is smart. It is not necessarily Pay to win. There are suites and weapons that are brought form isk are just as good as one brought with Aur
56 truth Algintal Core Gallente Federation 73	Posted - 2013.01.13 21:07:00 - [26] - Quote Lady Hyuna wrote: SCAT mania wrote: Around how many beta tester are there now? And how much are expected when open beta? I don't know how many people there are now, but I can expect a lot of people coming into it to check it out. Lot people tend to flawk to free FPS games specially from well known companies and its on ps3... I mean look at Halo, Dust has some halo feeling to it. In my opinion better than Halo and its free with micro transition... And CCP is smart. It is not necessarily Pay to win. There are suites and weapons that are brought form isk are just as good as one brought with Aur i was around i think the codex or earlyer build so bit of e3 to a bit after e3 i can say that there where a lot more people on the fourms now is almost a dead zone but i dont know thats just me.....
Telcontar Dunedain Imperfects Negative-Feedback 328	Posted - 2013.01.13 21:08:00 - [27] - Quote Kira Lannister wrote: Telcontar Dunedain wrote: Lady Hyuna wrote: The only way a green horn learns how to play the game efficiently is through deaths, or play medic. Pretty much this. There is way too much qq and worry about the newbs. People learn games by dieing. You all need to htfu, die more often, and get better. Fixed that for ya. Nice, but probably too provocative...
Th3rdSun L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising 323	Posted - 2013.01.13 21:51:00 - [28] - Quote Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: This is exactly what i fear they will hit the wall of vets and say **** this and give up on DUST and not only that would probably spread the word to others of the same mentality, some will probably stick to it but very few will have patience and a want to be effectivly beaten repeatedly. When DUST goes live it NEEDS a Sp wipe, and the sp system needs to be made viable for people who A: dont play every day(roll over is a fix) and B: people who start a month or 2 into developpment(a DUST wide roll over would make it possible but not easy to catch up) This is my feeling too,and I have been wondering if CCP is totally clueless of this,but then I just started thinking,why would CCP not reset? What is the point of it? Then it just hit me. CCP is banking on that those noobs that are getting abused by vets will like the game so much ,yet hate that they are so far behind,that they are going to start spending money on AUR in an effort to catch up or at least stand on equal footing with the vets.If this is what CCP is banking on,it will surely blow up in their faces,as most console gamers would rather move on to another game,than spend money on what is advertised as a Free To Play game in order to compete with people that are going to be handed a clear advantage from the start. Whatever CCP says,I'm still not convinced that they aren't going to do a reset for launch.I just don't see how they figure that this is going to go over well with the new players that they are trying to attract to the game.
Foley Jones R.I.f.t 122	Posted - 2013.01.13 22:23:00 - [29] - Quote Th3rdSun wrote: Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: This is exactly what i fear they will hit the wall of vets and say **** this and give up on DUST and not only that would probably spread the word to others of the same mentality, some will probably stick to it but very few will have patience and a want to be effectivly beaten repeatedly. When DUST goes live it NEEDS a Sp wipe, and the sp system needs to be made viable for people who A: dont play every day(roll over is a fix) and B: people who start a month or 2 into developpment(a DUST wide roll over would make it possible but not easy to catch up) This is my feeling too,and I have been wondering if CCP is totally clueless of this,but then I just started thinking,why would CCP not reset? What is the point of it? Then it just hit me. CCP is banking on that those noobs that are getting abused by vets will like the game so much ,yet hate that they are so far behind,that they are going to start spending money on AUR in an effort to catch up or at least stand on equal footing with the vets.If this is what CCP is banking on,it will surely blow up in their faces,as most console gamers would rather move on to another game,than spend money on what is advertised as a Free To Play game in order to compete with people that are going to be handed a clear advantage from the start. Whatever CCP says,I'm still not convinced that they aren't going to do a reset for launch.I just don't see how they figure that this is going to go over well with the new players that they are trying to attract to the game. You have a point but I believe its confirmed that there will be no more resets, CCP is telling us this is a head start so why would they be like "oh sorry I know we said we gave you a head start but uh...wipe" I mean sure the free points. But it wouldent feel like a head start...besides we JUST had a wipe...people will be raging like no tommorow on the fourms I promise you
Lady Hyuna Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 29	Posted - 2013.01.13 22:29:00 - [30] - Quote Foley Jones wrote: Th3rdSun wrote: Ranger SnakeBlood wrote: This is exactly what i fear they will hit the wall of vets and say **** this and give up on DUST and not only that would probably spread the word to others of the same mentality, some will probably stick to it but very few will have patience and a want to be effectivly beaten repeatedly. When DUST goes live it NEEDS a Sp wipe, and the sp system needs to be made viable for people who A: dont play every day(roll over is a fix) and B: people who start a month or 2 into developpment(a DUST wide roll over would make it possible but not easy to catch up) This is my feeling too,and I have been wondering if CCP is totally clueless of this,but then I just started thinking,why would CCP not reset? What is the point of it? Then it just hit me. CCP is banking on that those noobs that are getting abused by vets will like the game so much ,yet hate that they are so far behind,that they are going to start spending money on AUR in an effort to catch up or at least stand on equal footing with the vets.If this is what CCP is banking on,it will surely blow up in their faces,as most console gamers would rather move on to another game,than spend money on what is advertised as a Free To Play game in order to compete with people that are going to be handed a clear advantage from the start. Whatever CCP says,I'm still not convinced that they aren't going to do a reset for launch.I just don't see how they figure that this is going to go over well with the new players that they are trying to attract to the game. You have a point but I believe its confirmed that there will be no more resets, CCP is telling us this is a head start so why would they be like "oh sorry I know we said we gave you a head start but uh...wipe" I mean sure the free points. But it wouldent feel like a head start...besides we JUST had a wipe...people will be raging like no tommorow on the fourms I promise you Im Just carious How is any different from a noob when the game is out and rage quitting because he keeps dieing? I is like me joining COD and raging and such because I keep die from lack of skills. I just don't see any different than seeing someone joining for OB with people with all the skills, than joining when the game has been out for 3 months.



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