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Posted - 2013.01.13 20:32:00 -
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Lady Hyuna wrote:The only way a green horn learns how to play the game efficiently is through deaths, or play medic.
Pretty much this.
There is way too much qq and worry about the newbs.
People learn games by dieing.
You all need to stfu, die more often, and get better. |
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Posted - 2013.01.13 21:08:00 -
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Kira Lannister wrote:Telcontar Dunedain wrote:Lady Hyuna wrote:The only way a green horn learns how to play the game efficiently is through deaths, or play medic. Pretty much this. There is way too much qq and worry about the newbs. People learn games by dieing. You all need to htfu, die more often, and get better. Fixed that for ya.
Nice, but probably too provocative... |
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Posted - 2013.01.14 00:24:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Also the logic fails.
I mean what if the game was a year old and new players enter the game? Then the new players would get totally destroyed.If everyone starts off on the ground floor at the same time and you start late,then that's totally on you.The way that CCP will justify this is that if you wanted to get SP early,they you should have bought the Merc Pack,which is kinda BS. And along with that,unless those players are being told by us that are in the beta right now,how are they going to know to get in now so that they aren't behind? I'm pretty damn sure that CCP isn't sending emails out telling people that this is supposedly the last wipe. Mark my words,if they don't do a wipe for the launch,it will be a huge mistake.
The ground floor was this reset.
It's actually pretty common to have a headstart as the game goes live these days.
I think almost 1m people have been invited. If they aren't following along, what can you do? Keep resetting until they do? |
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Posted - 2013.01.14 00:55:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:Telcontar Dunedain wrote:Th3rdSun wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Also the logic fails.
I mean what if the game was a year old and new players enter the game? Then the new players would get totally destroyed.If everyone starts off on the ground floor at the same time and you start late,then that's totally on you.The way that CCP will justify this is that if you wanted to get SP early,they you should have bought the Merc Pack,which is kinda BS. And along with that,unless those players are being told by us that are in the beta right now,how are they going to know to get in now so that they aren't behind? I'm pretty damn sure that CCP isn't sending emails out telling people that this is supposedly the last wipe. Mark my words,if they don't do a wipe for the launch,it will be a huge mistake. The ground floor was this reset. It's actually pretty common to have a headstart as the game goes live these days. I think almost 1m people have been invited. If they aren't following along, what can you do? Keep resetting until they do? But the ground floor should never be a Closed Beta. CCP is acknowledging that people are getting a head start,which really isn't fair,nor doing any favors to the latecomers,which if you start on launch day,or even open beta,aren't latecomers. I guess what I would like to know more than anything at this point is what is CCP doing other than the word of mouth of the beta testers,to let the people that aren't in the beta know that they should be in here now if they don't want to start at the bottom of the hill while every one else is already a good ways up it.
I think you guys are trying to hunt around for some optimal newb experience that wouldn't happen anyway.
It takes most people a few weeks to get comfortable with games anyway.
A few things mitigate this -
First there is really only a few weeks difference between a new character and advanced. Six weeks of dedicated AR build and you should be pretty much end game. After that it having more options in playstyles.
Second, given that this game should have a long life cycle measured in years instead of months, people will constantly will be coming and going at different skill levels. Why try to optimize around some mythical marketing launch?
Lastly the player base in this game is so bad (not trolling, the skill level is low) that I think good players will do fine coming in. |
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Posted - 2013.01.14 01:25:00 -
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Th3rdSun wrote:Telcontar Dunedain wrote:
I think you guys are trying to hunt around for some optimal newb experience that wouldn't happen anyway.
It takes most people a few weeks to get comfortable with games anyway.
A few things mitigate this -
First there is really only a few weeks difference between a new character and advanced. Six weeks of dedicated AR build and you should be pretty much end game. After that it having more options in playstyles.
Second, given that this game should have a long life cycle measured in years instead of months, people will constantly will be coming and going at different skill levels. Why try to optimize around some mythical marketing launch?
Lastly the player base in this game is so bad (not trolling, the skill level is low) that I think good players will do fine coming in.
I'll just sum up my opinion with an analogy.What CCP is doing with not having a final wipe for launch is similar to this. There's a pro basketball game being played tonight,and one team shows up to the stadium before the other team.The early team is out on the court doing the shoot around while the late team has just entered the stadium.The late team is finally ready to go,but has missed the shoot around,yet the game is still set to start at a certain predetermined time.Both teams are on the court now,and we are ready for the jump ball,but before the ball is tossed in the air to start the game,the early team is spotted 10 points just for being there first. Do you see how that scenario doesn't make any sense whatsoever? CCP is doing the exact same thing,which makes no sense either.
Your analogy only works if we were all playing one single game.
We will be playing thousands of games.
It will all even out in the end.
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Posted - 2013.01.14 05:16:00 -
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Stop trying to protect the newbs.
What are you feeling maternal? STFU. |
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