Kill yourself.

nope, get him close quarters and your good. also chances are the guy using them slaped on damage modifers like people do with ARs. LRs are good for the guy in the back of the squad, heres a good squad form of 5.


Heavy+ HMG
Assault+ AR+ammo Assualt+ AR+ ammo
Logistics+MD+ Nanite injector
Heavy or Assualt+LR injector adviced


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^ units formation ^

EDIT: sorry, it auto maticly pushes it to the side so this was mostly useless.

Let me be more specific, this happened before the reset, i had an assault VK.1 with 340 armor and 322 shield, it literally killed me in less than 5 seconds and the guy that killed me wasn't even visible, this is what is bugging me.

There is the law of large numbers working in this game as well. Good chance you had any combination of people that were also shooting at you prior to the laser taking the cake so to speak. Just because it says killed by laser does not always mean it was just the laser. You could have been hit by a milita sniper rifle at the same time.

I'm already dead from the damn laser rifle.

Let me be more specific, this happened before the reset, i had an assault VK.1 with 340 armor and 322 shield, it literally killed me in less than 5 seconds and the guy that killed me wasn't even visible, this is what is bugging me.

It's all about the title, they are just too overpowered, they just kill you less than 2 seconds and have a sniper range, they need a nerf NOW!

Their range is actually not too far. They consume so much ammo. They can damage their user. They have to watch ammo amount and heat. They deal so little damage up close.

For a laser rifle to be useful, you need to get in a good position... If you do, you deserve to wreak havok on people... But when the LR kills 500hp before you can react... Its a problem. I think lag spikes may play a factor.. But I'm not sure.

Pretty much this,

You got a weapon made to be ranged God mode for suppressing fire from an elevated point. You have two options to deal with: 1) sniper
2) fly up in a transport and make them rue the day/OB

Their range is actually not too far. They consume so much ammo. They can damage their user. They have to watch ammo amount and heat. They deal so little damage up close.

For a laser rifle to be useful, you need to get in a good position... If you do, you deserve to wreak havok on people... But when the LR kills 500hp before you can react... Its a problem. I think lag spikes may play a factor.. But I'm not sure.

The problem with lasers are the maps. It's too easy to climb these ladders sometimes - get at a high point where AR need to almost stand under you to get into an effective range.

Then there's that mountainous map - lasers paradise lol

you guys know that breach, and assault variants are probably going to be added in the next patch, right?

Wouldn't advise flying up to them, you'll lose your ship.

Max Damage needs a slight nerf, once fully heated it will destroy vehicles shields with ease, just aint right.

It's all about the title, they are just too overpowered, they just kill you less than 2 seconds and have a sniper range, they need a nerf NOW!

Even with maxed out sharp shooter a laser won't have sniper rifle range.

It works best at longer ranger, and assualt rifles don't. At mid range they are about equal, anything closer than mid range and laser sucks. And, as has been pointed out, really crap accuracy hip firing.

Best thing to do in my opinion would be to skill into laser rifle 1 and use one for 4 full matches of ambush and 4 full matches of skirmish.

See how well you do.

Lasers should build up by time on target, not the heat bar. Would instantly fix the OP problem.

It's all about the title, they are just too overpowered, they just kill you less than 2 seconds and have a sniper range, they need a nerf NOW!

Meh. Only thing to check with lasers is their over-heat speed. LVL 3 and ELM7 make it almost impossible to over-heat unless you're a massive screw up. Viziam and lvl 5 is mostly a no-overheat deal..

Shouldnt be that way. But damage side, it is fine.

Dude the skill does NOTHING. Even on lvl 5 it still overheats at the same time.
STD= overheats at 19 rounds left over
ADV=16 rounds left
PRO=12 left over
the skill does exactly nothing which annoys me. Another thing what bugs me is that the elm-7 has absolute no advantage over the standard laser except of the minimal overheat reduction. In my opinion the ELM-7 should have 2~2.5 more damage points compared to the standard. That would mean a damage of 17.5HP per hit with no heat up. Cause at the moment the damage pattern is like this:
STD=15HP
ADV=15HP
PRO=20HP

going from ADV to PRO is a huge jump in damage (33%) that is the same as to put 3 damage mods on a STD laser.

Rifles, in the first build, the Sniper Rifles in the second build. And now it seems that Laser Rifles are the way to go. I personally could'nt care less about the guns no more. I'm still waiting for the pilot skill. I'm looking forward to the Mech's and new Jet Fighters we should be getting in the next build.

Not actually a Laser specialist so i'll take your word on that. I played laser a while on codex and saw that the skill wasnt working and the ELM7 pretty much never over-heated so i assumed it was fixed with chromosome. Guess not then...

Otherwise, agreed that the damage pattern is pretty odd.
Imo, the basic laser is probably a bit too powerfull. The viziam definitely is. But for both, it's probably due to the over-heat problems and not specifically the base damage.

I find odd that a basic laser with no skill can spill 81% of its clip before over-hitting. Imo, even at full skill, a weapon that has an over-heat system shouldnt be able to drop 100% of its clip without over-heating. Tbh, i have no idea how much a laser should be able to fire before OH at full skill but the current value seems way too high.

Worst thing CCP could do would be to change both damage and over-heat speed. Could make the gun useless. If it were up to me, i'd just make over-heating a bit more common, and put the ELM7 at a 17.5 base damage like you suggest. More over-heating means more player skill needed to use it properly. Wich is good.