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Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.14 20:46:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:How the hell would they incorporate Dust into ring mining?...
And the whole point of Dust is to be a huge ISK sink so in theory we'll always be rich in Dust terms if everything works right, they want to siphon money out of the EVE economy and into Dust so that's its destroyed, right now there's a tiny volume of ISK destroyed each day in comparison to what's brought into the economy each day with ratting bountys etc so people get richer every single day in EVE and that's having a massive impact on Inflation, they want EVE to have a recession to bring some balance back into things.
That's not hard. Easy to generate scenarios. Try these:
Ring mining needs an orbital platform which significantly increased the efficiency of mining ships. Said platform has hellacious sheilds to survive the ring environment, but is also vulnerable to infiltration by mercs....
The processing of ring 'ore' requires a plantetside/space elevator facility in it's refine/react/manufacture chain....
Ring mining requires a gas giant 'floating city' infrastructure hub that will significantly improve long-range scanning in the rings for high-grade ore...
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DeeJay One
BetaMax.
9
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Posted - 2013.01.16 17:56:00 -
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So sad that the Dust 514 parts are still being reviewed, any hopes we will get them before the 22nd ? |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2013.01.16 20:28:00 -
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Vrain Matari wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:How the hell would they incorporate Dust into ring mining?...
And the whole point of Dust is to be a huge ISK sink so in theory we'll always be rich in Dust terms if everything works right, they want to siphon money out of the EVE economy and into Dust so that's its destroyed, right now there's a tiny volume of ISK destroyed each day in comparison to what's brought into the economy each day with ratting bountys etc so people get richer every single day in EVE and that's having a massive impact on Inflation, they want EVE to have a recession to bring some balance back into things.
That's not hard. Easy to generate scenarios. Try these: Ring mining needs an orbital platform which significantly increased the efficiency of mining ships. Said platform has hellacious sheilds to survive the ring environment, but is also vulnerable to infiltration by mercs.... The processing of ring 'ore' requires a plantetside/space elevator facility in it's refine/react/manufacture chain.... Ring mining requires a gas giant 'floating city' infrastructure hub that will significantly improve long-range scanning in the rings for high-grade ore...
The space elevator idea is not that bad actually but the other two are ridiculous. |
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CCP Frame
C C P C C P Alliance
470
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Posted - 2013.01.17 02:50:00 -
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This thread is now sticky for better visibility. |
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Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.01.17 05:00:00 -
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bout time. Thank you Frame. Now to get Hans to update the thread a little bit. Despite the lack of dust 514 notes the minutes are out. |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.01.17 10:04:00 -
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As one post in this forum has stated the CSM 2012 Winter Summit Minutes are out. http://community.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2012/CSM_CCP_Meetings_December_2012.pdf
I encourage every one to read that document through, even tho EVE/DUST 514 part isn't covered in that document, but released at latter date seperately, this is to learn how and what kind of mentality CCP has in developing this New Eden universe.
Even tho somewhat lenghty one, I found this very interesting to read through. |
Jason Punk
DUST University Ivy League
71
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Posted - 2013.01.19 22:26:00 -
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Odiain Suliis wrote:As one post in this forum has stated the CSM 2012 Winter Summit Minutes are out. http://community.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2012/CSM_CCP_Meetings_December_2012.pdfI encourage every one to read that document through, even tho EVE/DUST 514 part isn't covered in that document, but released at latter date seperately, this is to learn how and what kind of mentality CCP has in developing this New Eden universe. Even tho somewhat lenghty one, I found this very interesting to read through.
Cheers, good to have this going around.
Quote:You put a lot of thoughts into that and that is awesome, personally I would just be really amped to have some running gunfights through the hallways of a starship ala the very beginning of Star Wars. Here's hoping CCP makes my nerd dreams come true someday
Absolutely, I really appreciate when people take the time to think out their ideas, so I try and make it a point to do the same. I tend to find it better than pissing matches about OP weapons or graphic details. ^^
I really want to hear get those CSM7, Winter Notes on the 22nd...I believe we've at least earned that much. |
Deadly Mitauchi
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
140
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Posted - 2013.01.20 01:08:00 -
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I recently interviewed Alekseyev Karrde member of CSM 7 regarding the Winter Notes. Here is a link for those interested. http://www.twitch.tv/mitauchi/c/1843740 |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
112
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Posted - 2013.01.20 03:45:00 -
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This ROFL show is new to me. Hmm.. Very good interview. |
Deadly Mitauchi
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
140
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Posted - 2013.01.20 04:30:00 -
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Odiain Suliis wrote:This ROFL show is new to me. Hmm.. Very good interview.
Thanks! |
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Minmatar Slave 74136
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
291
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Posted - 2013.01.20 12:47:00 -
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i want to capture space stations, even if they are NPC ones as part of faction warfare. capsuleers better hope they don't have their stuff or clones in the station if and when we cap it, though.
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Kevall Longstride
DUST University Ivy League
71
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Posted - 2013.01.21 12:08:00 -
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Thanks for this Hans.
I'd already learned from another CSM (no prizes for guessing witch one) that the Dust section of the summit and the additional session added was nearly the most heated, discussion wise, of of the whole summit.
I thought it very telling in the minutes that Unifex pointed to an iPad and wondered why PI wasn't being done on that. Certainly shows the direction that CCP want to go.
Can't wait for the full transcript to be released. |
Deadly Mitauchi
SONS of LEGION RISE of LEGION
140
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Posted - 2013.01.21 15:37:00 -
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Kevall Longstride wrote:Thanks for this Hans.
I'd already learned from another CSM (no prizes for guessing witch one) that the Dust section of the summit and the additional session added was nearly the most heated, discussion wise, of of the whole summit.
I thought it very telling in the minutes that Unifex pointed to an iPad and wondered why PI wasn't being done on that. Certainly shows the direction that CCP want to go.
Can't wait for the full transcript to be released.
Alek told me the same.
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PT SD
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
125
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Posted - 2013.01.21 16:59:00 -
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Open Beta tomorrow, and yet still no Dust 514 minutes. |
Darth Tyrannnus
Citadel Mercantile Exchange Amarr-Caldari Mercantile Exchange
26
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Posted - 2013.01.26 08:16:00 -
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oh boy, seems like have a bunch of catching up to do. game has changed so much since last summer. i still remember the build where missle launchers ruled the day. ah, the good old days, when patches didnt take 14 HOURS to download |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
112
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Posted - 2013.01.27 06:56:00 -
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Anyone heared of the EVE/DUST link minutes or their status? |
Kev Crow
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
24
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Posted - 2013.01.28 00:23:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen thank you for starting this thread, you definitely earned my vote. ( Not you, Hans did for yelling at you )
Mostly, I am an EVE player. For the past few months I have also been beta testing DUST and as the result I have been hired by a DUST corp to serve as their EVE liaison/diplomat. (This is my "Mr Nobody" alt of course)
We have been trying to encourage one of the militias and their leaders to experiment with us on sovereignty changes. (Some of the people who came to the table probably know your brother Hans: Elsebeth from EM, a couple of people from Iron Oxide and Wex Manchester from Late Night Alliance ;-)
When trying to create some kind of a plan that could convince them to work with us we have discovered that while mercs are excellent in making short term gains, when it comes to sustainable operations, we fall short. Let me explain:
The existing contract system doesn't have any way that could make our corp the default defender of a specific system. Of course, this being beta and all we know that such things will gradually improve, nevertheless the closer we analyze the question of incentives for hiring mercs the more frustrated and worried we have become. As things stand, the LP farming corps will definitely not hire mercs, they don't need us, all they need is their alts in different militias. The loyalist corps are already entrenched in their "home" systems and generally speaking are not interested in capturing new systems for a short term global VP. Even with our effective help, any captured system has to be held in space and not necessarily on the ground - because as long as capturing planets is only optional, the only thing that the opposite militia fleet has to do is to simply ignore them and thus ignore DUST.
I am very happy about what Inferno did to FW and lowsec PVP in general, a lot of my veteran nullsec friends all moved to FW in search of real mayhem. Then again, if one considers the current state of FW ( or rather Farming Warefare ), DUST mercs could do a lot of good to encourage a more sustainable type of operations aimed at long term benefits to the militias and not just short term gains. The burning question is will they?
There are probably countless ways in which CCP could incentivise hiring a mercenary ground force by the militia, there is only one way FW and EVE will take real notice of DUST:
The link between both games has to change the way FW is being played. Any other kind of half-baked cautions approach will simply backfire.
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Liner ReXiandra
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2013.01.28 01:52:00 -
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So when can we expect to see the Dust sessions of the CSM minutes? |
D3LTA SUP3RMAN
D3LTA FORC3 Orion Empire
244
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Posted - 2013.01.28 02:32:00 -
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen wrote:So in all seriousness. I'm putting my ass up for sale. Gimme a recruitment pitch, show me where I can get involved in some cross-platform pew. I've been in betamax up until this point, and Jenza is a true hero, but this will be much more interesting. I'm in an NPC** corp due to the wipe and its time for a clean slate. Until CCP gives capsuleers the capability to give me a reason to fight, I'm going to rely on you, the community, to provide that incentive. I'm a solid player, I'm going to be skilling up as anti-vehicle, and I can be professional on comms. Show me that your corp is more fun than the next, I'll happily lend you my forge gun.
I have seen anyone respond to this, so I'll take a shot at it. Maybe I'm missing some inside joke or something, but what the hell, it can't hurt to try.
If you are serious about joining another Corp, come check out D3LTA FORC3. We are in the top 15 in War Points on the corporation leaderboards. We have about 350 members, with 50 online any given night. We don't draw much attention to ourselves by talking crap or posting corp battle results for all to see, we're just quietly building our army. We're already deep in the Meta-game and Faction warfare. We have some friends in low-sec places, and caused some drama this past weekend as a test. I also have one of the best AV players in the game. I would love to have another Boss AV specialist for those A-list corp battles we get form time-to-time. Let me know if you're serious about trying out another corp. We can talk in game if needed. |
PT SD
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
125
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Posted - 2013.01.30 23:37:00 -
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Still no DuST 514 CSM minutes.... Still |
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
BetaMax.
33
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Posted - 2013.02.03 19:21:00 -
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bump.
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Heinrich Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous Late Night Alliance
142
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Posted - 2013.02.13 17:06:00 -
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I don't know what to say guys, the minutes seem to be taking forever to be looked at, every week we're told "someone will be looking at them this week" to no avail. It's immensely frustrating, but rest assured the CSM continues to hammer CCP to bite the bullet and get these out. I honestly have no idea why these are taking so long, especially now that we're over the hump of migration to Tranqulity.
As soon as I hear anything substantive you all will be the first to know. o7 |
Odiain Suliis
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
112
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Posted - 2013.02.27 05:49:00 -
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Seemslike the Minutes have finally released, with some NDA strikes on the document.
http://community.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2012/CSM_CCP_Meetings_December_2012.pdf The above link is the full CSM 2012 winter minutes, including the DUST/EVE link parts. |
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