Welp Active Boosters do play a role. Instead of 27K SP you get 40K SP per day. It would still give you an edge over the ones without the skill boosters. Say you play 2 days with the active boosters and miss the 3rd day, you have already made up for it with those 2 days.

However I rather I skill up day 1 and focus on corp battles though than spending every day of my life playing Dust just to skill up.

It may work for Eve but not for a FPS.

The funny thing is you get 5 SP for every 1 second of Battle. This means that every minute of battle you can get 300 SP. Which means if you play a skirmish game of 30 minutes you get 9000 SP per game. 3 skirmishes and you have reached your cap. With the boosters thats your 40K daily SP there .

Turn of the PS3 after that and go get some sunshine .

One thing about this daily cap I'm wondering if CCP considered. I used to spend 2k aurum on a 1-day Active Booster for my alt character and just grind his weekly SP out over that period. With this daily cap, I won't be using a daily booster anymore and I can't see that anyone would considering the return on investment.

I need to look at the whole daily SP picture before I comment more on good/bad of it and considering we are getting wiped in two days... interesting times.

What are you talking about ? I went 22/8 first in the leaderboards last night to get 7.5K and 160,000ISK not worth busting my butt at all and getting good gear

thats 20 skirmish games you have to go 22/8 in to upgrade a 155K skill and 28 skirmish games at 22/8 for a 215k upgrade

30 day booster is what will be the most invested in if this is the case of daily cap. Buying Merc packs will be essential to keeping up the pace on Skill points.

IMO the move to daily was for the boosters, which is how CCP will make IRL money. Which basically turns out to be what a subscription price would be per month, again how CCP and Sony intend this game to be played.

30 day booster is what will be the most invested in if this is the case of daily cap. Buying Merc packs will be essential to keeping up the pace on Skill points.

IMO the move to daily was for the boosters, which is how CCP will make IRL money. Which basically turns out to be what a subscription price would be per month, again how CCP and Sony intend this game to be played.

I am on the fence with THE core system in DUST514. IMO the SP system will be the biggest thing that either retains or pushes away everyday FPS players, regardless of whatever SP system they put in (daily, weekly, no cap).

When I am in my PS3's menu deciding what game I want to play, the two things that enter into my mind are entertainment and accomplishment. If a game accomplishes both of those I will probably play it. When I "beat" the game, I usually don't pick it up much anymore.

For example, when I hit max level and opened all the weapons on BF3, my playtime on that game winded down to nil. So with DUST514 there needs to be an incentive to keep playing. The SP system and acquiring skills accomplishes that. But at what entertainment value?

Is logging into DUST going to be a chore I have to perform everyday or is it going to be something I look forward to playing when I get home from work?

This is why I think CCP has their work cut out for them with the SP system. It needs to cater to so many player types it's VERY hard to get it right. A "perfect" SP system would make the HC gamer that plays 6-8hrs a day and the casual gamer happy with everything theyve accomplished on a dialy basis. Making it not only worthwhile to log in, but fun.

I have a great time grouping with my corp. mates, but in the end don't we also want to further out characters at the same time?

I feel for CCP since this will be one of the biggest questions they have to answer. EVE side players are used to a long character training (think months and years). The average FPS player isn't used to waiting months to further skills, which is going to be the retention challenge presented to CCP.

CCP trolled yall. Welp I am sitting on 10 Merc Packs. Thats 10 months of active boosting and 10 months of Passive Boosting. AUR FTW

There's no issue with there being a cap on SP, what is the issue is that CCP went with the most mentally challenged implementation of it.

Logarithmically decreasing function with a 2 week quota that is filled up by 1/14 per day is the answer, assuming the question isn't "how do we drive away our players most efficiently"?

Not the lame thing they got now.

What are you talking about ? I went 22/8 first in the leaderboards last night to get 7.5K and 160,000ISK not worth busting my butt at all and getting good gear

thats 20 skirmish games you have to go 22/8 in to upgrade a 155K skill and 28 skirmish games at 22/8 for a 215k upgrade

ok so one day i will get a decent return but 6 days will be pointless to play other than i like my corp mates. Also that doesnt address the ISK bs either ill stay in militia for 200,000isk a match thank you with high SP instead . Im just learning to tweak fits now but not seeing the reward to want to. Passive SP and boosters are killing this FPS , yea its cool to not have to play but it really screws the people that do play. With a game in beta stage that is so hell bent on having skills and gear matter to play , the reward has to be the same.

ISK BS, we get tons and tons of ISK now. Wearing 300,000 ISK per loadout and still have 20 million sitting around.

How are SP boosters killing this FPS? You do understand this is a FPS MMO right, lets say it once more MMO it takes forever to get skill points. We are not talking COD and a few weeks of playing, we are talking YEARS to get invested in this game.

I am on the fence with THE core system in DUST514. IMO the SP system will be the biggest thing that either retains or pushes away everyday FPS players, regardless of whatever SP system they put in (daily, weekly, no cap).

When I am in my PS3's menu deciding what game I want to play, the two things that enter into my mind are entertainment and accomplishment. If a game accomplishes both of those I will probably play it. When I "beat" the game, I usually don't pick it up much anymore.

For example, when I hit max level and opened all the weapons on BF3, my playtime on that game winded down to nil. So with DUST514 there needs to be an incentive to keep playing. The SP system and acquiring skills accomplishes that. But at what entertainment value?

Is logging into DUST going to be a chore I have to perform everyday or is it going to be something I look forward to playing when I get home from work?

This is why I think CCP has their work cut out for them with the SP system. It needs to cater to so many player types it's VERY hard to get it right. A "perfect" SP system would make the HC gamer that plays 6-8hrs a day and the casual gamer happy with everything theyve accomplished on a dialy basis. Making it not only worthwhile to log in, but fun.

I have a great time grouping with my corp. mates, but in the end don't we also want to further out characters at the same time?

I feel for CCP since this will be one of the biggest questions they have to answer. EVE side players are used to a long character training (think months and years). The average FPS player isn't used to waiting months to further skills, which is going to be the retention challenge presented to CCP.

Like we discussed on Sunday, we are only playing maybe 20-25% of this game, so while SP's are good they will not be the only thing we try to acquire.

Also look at other MMO's which Dust an EVE are. DCUO, WoW, Rift you do hit a true Skill point cap at certain levels. Then as expansions come out you were able to get more Lvls. Dust wont go down that route, but FPS players will have to get used to the idea of a slow progression in this game. Its not a race to the end its a battle to survive in Eve.