Try firing a laser at a shield tank. Like an HAV. Then try stacking damage mods and do it again. Then come back and say "it's not broken, that Sagaris deserved to die in 3 clips".

When people said "my AR can't kill a tank" CCP put in lasers.

CQC? It's called scrambler pistol. 400% headshots ftw. The fact you can have 2 over powered guns on 1 suit is super kewl.

Edit: no other weapon gains 25%damage at Proto vs standard/advanced grade. Tweeeeeks needed.
Logic vs Data

Try firing a laser at a shield tank. Like an HAV. Then try stacking damage mods and do it again. Then come back and say "it's not broken, that Sagaris deserved to die in 3 clips".

When people said "my AR can't kill a tank" CCP put in lasers.

Just a fyi. Laser has a roughly 750 rpm firing rate and although it looks like a beam weapon damage is done to targets in pulses like an assault rifle.

Facts seems to get lost in heated debating as always.

I would love to know where that fact comes from, since nowhere in the description or attributes section does it state a rpm firing rate. Heat build up per second yes RPM firing rate no.

Love it when people pull random "facts" and dont back them up.

the optimal range of a laser isn't so much the issue. Example a few builds back no one used the excuse that a minddrive smg was really bad at 50 meters because it was used and under 15 meters. Same can be said for Lasers. I never bother with laser close up I switch to smg. Saying its bad up close has no bearing on how it performs in its optimal which is the issue being discussed. I used a proto laser quite at bit myself and its easily broken in context with other guns. That said I am well aware that the informal AR nerf (temp iron sights only does play a part in the strong feelings against lasers)

What it comes down to is a combination of the items below.

1) As with snipers long range weapons such as Lasers benefit from the user always being able to fit damage mods without a real trade off. Example AR players have to weight the risk/reward of damage vs tank. the stacking mod issue doesn't play that big of role really.

2) Accuracy of a laser when you swipe it across someone is 100% where as other guns can't offer you that type of ability. I hardly every aim for head but will still catch it a bunch. Watching high level suits lose shields instantly then the merc die just as fast when i make my second swipe back across him is telling. I'm not some super skilled fps guy either but using a laser i have much higher kdr then with any other weapon.

3) The only player skill factor is the preheat needed. Once you get that down its faily simple to preheat and swipe across players with high alpha damage. The alpha damage is my only real concern because ccp had reduced ehp of suits and scaled down damage of weapons consistantly to make dust about gun fights not he who shoots first.

Now i am not calling for a nerf of lasers but I think with the combination of 3 things i listed above they are a bit broken ths build. Add to that having highly skilled players using them they will get a bad rap anyways.

So many bad players in dust just want everything that kills them nerfed. I would prefer ccp to look as the issue objectiving in it parts and assess it as part of the bigger picutre.

My 2 isk.

In its current incarnation the LR overcharge numbers are a bit high. Either drop the bonus a little or require the beam to stay roughly on target and it wil be pretty fair. I think the LR concept is sound personally. However I did see a squadie fire up in the air for a bit then bring the laser down in an arc like a scythe and drop 4 assaults instantly. That seemed a bit off to me.

Edit note: I say roughly on target not exactly on target. As in if you make contact every half second or so the charge can keep going.