... get a headshot?

I really dont see the issue, you still down a good portion of his/her hp making the person an easy wipe up target for other players. Why should you be granted a weapon that autokills any suit above militia?

Last thing i want to see is more bluedots sticking to the hills thinking they are helping the team by padding thier k/d, sincerely no offense intended OP but more dmg is definitely not needed.

headshot is pretty much a one shot kill to all but heavies granted it's hard to get but if u do u feel very satisfied. As far as damage goes it's fine. I hate snipers enough no need to buff them. Lol

I don't know but ask some dude named RED EYE DEMON. He has an OP sniper...

Edit: I have 50 thales and I don't snipe, any trades?

As a sniper I have mixed feelings about this as I only tend to die by being counter-sniped and my elite fitting is tanked with shields and armor to up my survivability (357 shield/294 armr) so I can typically survive two body shots and I like that.

I do feel CCP went in the wrong direction this Build bringing the stats of militia and proto weapons closer. I only run the Ishukone because I have plenty of ISK, otherwise mathematically it doesn't make much sense. It's much cheaper it run a basic sniper rifle with a complex damage mod to get the same damage as a proto rifle for roughly 26K ISK less.

190 x 1.1 = 209 (15,000 ISK)
209 x 1.0 = 209 (41,000 ISK)

Unlike the TAR-07 which has a much higher zoom (and dmg) there is no difference between the basic and proto rifles that I'm aware of. If CCP wants to keep the damage levels closer together they need to find other ways to differentiate between the different levels of weapons within the sniper class. They could do a number of things such as increase zoom, increase RPM, increase clip size, increase max ammo...anything to add some value to the proto gear because right now the numbers don't add up.



I'll trade you 5 Surya's and 20 Prometheus and 15 Eryx's for the Thale's (I wish...)

This is not a rant, seriously!

I've been sniping for awhile now and have noticed a few things. That it takes alot of practice to become good and takes alot of patience. However, earning the kill even after acquiring such skills is unforgiving.

If you take a solid sniper rifle like the NT-511, it outputs per shot 199.5/damage (so lets just make it 200). The very basic assault suit of an opponent totaling there shield and armor is 300, (125 shield + 175 armor). So essentially I'll have to put at least two perfectly aimed shots into the opposing player, (pending no headshot) in order to kill them.

Now if a player doesn't have the experience, it might get frustrating at times seeing that when they finally do score a hit on an opposing player, they don't go down. Furthermore, after awhile of course, players obtain better equipment and soforth to increase there chances of not going down easily. Now that's perfectly normal and fine, except for the sniper.

Generally, the vast majority of sniper rifles today, or even in the future like Dust 514, sniper rifles are aimed at taking out most players with one bullet. One shot one kill. Of course if a player has boosted himself to take more damage and a player with a sniper snipes him/her, then at least ~80% of there health should disappear.

Lets look at some stats with a pretty much "maxed out" NT-511 and compare it to just the basic assault armor.

NT-511: 200 damage.

Weaponry skill (lvl 5): +10% damage
Sniper proficiency (lvl 5): +15% damage
Complex light damage module: +10% damage

200 x .35 = 70
200 + 70 = 270

NT-511 max damage output: 270
Basic assault armor = 300

So as you can see, even with a maxed out NT-511 sniper rifle, a single shot can't take down just the basic of assault suits. Now of course I realize that eventually I'll be able to get a Isukone sniper rifle that puts out 210 damage per shot. However even with that you'll end up with this:

210 x .35 = 73.5
210 + 73.5 = 283.5
Isukone max damage output: 283.5
Basic assault armor = 300

So even with a top-tier sniper rifle, you can't take even the basic of things down. You might say to yourself, "Yeah, so what?". Well to max out all those skills for damage, you're looking at probably around ~2,000,000+ SP to achieve and yet you're still left with 2 shotting some players? It just doesn't make any sense.

Heavies on the other hand are completely understandable as they're meant to take multiple bullets from pretty much everything with the exception of tanks and airships. So putting 3-4 shots into a heavy in understandable. But not you're average joe with a basic assault suit.

For these reasons I think that there should an increase in sniper rifle damage output. As an experienced sniper in the game, I do very well. However, having to put excess amount of bullets just to take one person down is very frustrating. So how do you think new players or even first time snipers would feel? Not very good.

Thanks to everyone who has read this, it's appreciated!

What are your thoughts and opinions on this? Please no flaming.

This is not a rant, seriously!

I've been sniping for awhile now and have noticed a few things. That it takes alot of practice to become good and takes alot of patience. However, earning the kill even after acquiring such skills is unforgiving.

If you take a solid sniper rifle like the NT-511, it outputs per shot 199.5/damage (so lets just make it 200). The very basic assault suit of an opponent totaling there shield and armor is 300, (125 shield + 175 armor). So essentially I'll have to put at least two perfectly aimed shots into the opposing player, (pending no headshot) in order to kill them.

Now if a player doesn't have the experience, it might get frustrating at times seeing that when they finally do score a hit on an opposing player, they don't go down. Furthermore, after awhile of course, players obtain better equipment and soforth to increase there chances of not going down easily. Now that's perfectly normal and fine, except for the sniper.

Generally, the vast majority of sniper rifles today, or even in the future like Dust 514, sniper rifles are aimed at taking out most players with one bullet. One shot one kill. Of course if a player has boosted himself to take more damage and a player with a sniper snipes him/her, then at least ~80% of there health should disappear.

Lets look at some stats with a pretty much "maxed out" NT-511 and compare it to just the basic assault armor.

NT-511: 200 damage.

Weaponry skill (lvl 5): +10% damage
Sniper proficiency (lvl 5): +15% damage
Complex light damage module: +10% damage

200 x .35 = 70
200 + 70 = 270

NT-511 max damage output: 270
Basic assault armor = 300

So as you can see, even with a maxed out NT-511 sniper rifle, a single shot can't take down just the basic of assault suits. Now of course I realize that eventually I'll be able to get a Isukone sniper rifle that puts out 210 damage per shot. However even with that you'll end up with this:

210 x .35 = 73.5
210 + 73.5 = 283.5
Isukone max damage output: 283.5
Basic assault armor = 300

So even with a top-tier sniper rifle, you can't take even the basic of things down. You might say to yourself, "Yeah, so what?". Well to max out all those skills for damage, you're looking at probably around ~2,000,000+ SP to achieve and yet you're still left with 2 shotting some players? It just doesn't make any sense.

Heavies on the other hand are completely understandable as they're meant to take multiple bullets from pretty much everything with the exception of tanks and airships. So putting 3-4 shots into a heavy in understandable. But not you're average joe with a basic assault suit.

For these reasons I think that there should an increase in sniper rifle damage output. As an experienced sniper in the game, I do very well. However, having to put excess amount of bullets just to take one person down is very frustrating. So how do you think new players or even first time snipers would feel? Not very good.

Thanks to everyone who has read this, it's appreciated!

What are your thoughts and opinions on this? Please no flaming.

This is not a rant, seriously!

I've been sniping for awhile now and have noticed a few things. That it takes alot of practice to become good and takes alot of patience. However, earning the kill even after acquiring such skills is unforgiving.

If you take a solid sniper rifle like the NT-511, it outputs per shot 199.5/damage (so lets just make it 200). The very basic assault suit of an opponent totaling there shield and armor is 300, (125 shield + 175 armor). So essentially I'll have to put at least two perfectly aimed shots into the opposing player, (pending no headshot) in order to kill them.

Now if a player doesn't have the experience, it might get frustrating at times seeing that when they finally do score a hit on an opposing player, they don't go down. Furthermore, after awhile of course, players obtain better equipment and soforth to increase there chances of not going down easily. Now that's perfectly normal and fine, except for the sniper.

Generally, the vast majority of sniper rifles today, or even in the future like Dust 514, sniper rifles are aimed at taking out most players with one bullet. One shot one kill. Of course if a player has boosted himself to take more damage and a player with a sniper snipes him/her, then at least ~80% of there health should disappear.

Lets look at some stats with a pretty much "maxed out" NT-511 and compare it to just the basic assault armor.

NT-511: 200 damage.

Weaponry skill (lvl 5): +10% damage
Sniper proficiency (lvl 5): +15% damage
Complex light damage module: +10% damage

200 x .35 = 70
200 + 70 = 270

NT-511 max damage output: 270
Basic assault armor = 300

So as you can see, even with a maxed out NT-511 sniper rifle, a single shot can't take down just the basic of assault suits. Now of course I realize that eventually I'll be able to get a Isukone sniper rifle that puts out 210 damage per shot. However even with that you'll end up with this:

210 x .35 = 73.5
210 + 73.5 = 283.5
Isukone max damage output: 283.5
Basic assault armor = 300

So even with a top-tier sniper rifle, you can't take even the basic of things down. You might say to yourself, "Yeah, so what?". Well to max out all those skills for damage, you're looking at probably around ~2,000,000+ SP to achieve and yet you're still left with 2 shotting some players? It just doesn't make any sense.

Heavies on the other hand are completely understandable as they're meant to take multiple bullets from pretty much everything with the exception of tanks and airships. So putting 3-4 shots into a heavy in understandable. But not you're average joe with a basic assault suit.

For these reasons I think that there should an increase in sniper rifle damage output. As an experienced sniper in the game, I do very well. However, having to put excess amount of bullets just to take one person down is very frustrating. So how do you think new players or even first time snipers would feel? Not very good.

Thanks to everyone who has read this, it's appreciated!

What are your thoughts and opinions on this? Please no flaming.

I don't snipe much but when I do , I do WORK

Sniping the driver of an LAV while moving
Picking of targets over 500+M with a 1 shot

So not much to complain about.