Welcome to New Eden, where everyone is going to kill you, including your team.

Drop Uplinks are places where you can spawn in where ever they are dropped.

New Eden is not a nice place, and a drop uplink doesn't mean you won't get camped, since they are easy to see and camp.

Well since your an EVE player, you should be familar with this, it's called station camping.

you undock and get killed by many many people who hate you and they kill you with dreads.

wow how little you understand proper station camping.

First you can only really be camped if you don't have a jump clone, and if you don't well you are not going anywhere. Second most station campers use the station they are camping for medical clones, so they can be back in the fight in about 45 seconds.

Now to address you main complaint, if your spawning into a spot that is camped and you know it's camped, that your fault. if you don't know it's camped then your not on comms, again your fault. if you are on comms and still don't know it's camped, your team mates suck, this is their fault, but still.

If you spawn into a group of people sitting on a spawn point you better be on comms tells everyone exactly which point it is, how many people, and to not use it. Anything less and it's your fault.

If the enemy has camped you into to one point, you fail, just give it up.

I know plenty, and in the right circumstances, it does work like that. However, it's not my failure if the game mechanics are spawning me IN TO the site that is being camped. If there is nothing you can do about it, how can it be your failure?

I don't have coms, I don't have a team yet, and players don't suck just because they don't even get a chance to get a shot off. You're a bad person and you should feel bad for being completely non-constructive. This isn't EVE, this is DUST - it's a shooter, there is a huge difference between the mechanics of a shooter and the mechanics of an open-world no-holds-barred MMO.

Unfortunately, you don't get to choose your spawn sites - so no, if I've been getting killed the moment I spawn, I just sit in the map overview and afk the rest of the game. It's got nothing to do with how good or bad players are at the game. Grow up, get a clue, and stop blaming players for a legitimate problem with the game.

And FYI - I've not only been the victim of being spawned right in front of the enemy, I've had the enemy spawn right in front of me on multiple occasions, with their backs to me, no where near a camp. This is bad mechanics, plain and simple. You can blame the players all you want, but I'm pretty sure it's just an opportunity for another lonely little gamer boy to rage on the forums. Go be non-constructive somewhere else.

I played a game earlier where I got spawned right in front of an enemy tank, gun pointed right at me. I don't blame the player for taking advantage of that situation. The mechanics are what is wrong. Fortunately, this is just the beta, and I'm sure that they will get a tune. But there is NO comparison whatsoever between getting spawncamped on DUST (as a result of where players are being spawned due to mechanics) and station camped in EVE (which is the result of careful planning, coordinating, and positioning to camp the specific player you are after, and there are a wide range of tactics to avoid being station camped, like insta-undocks that you can warp to without having to align - there are no such tactics available to avoid getting instakilled upon spawning in dust).

wow utter failure to understand sir.

This is New Eden, this is EVE, this is Dust514. they are the same game, only with different inputs.

However, beyond that point, if your just playing ambush and using default spawn that isn't what this game is. This is a Team based game, as I said if your not on comms, it's your fault, how do you expect to find a decent group of people to play with, or a good Corp if your not gonna talk to anyone?

I do get to pick my spawn points, even in ambush, because I am on comms, even if I'm not running with my corp I'm in the team channel communicating with my team, dropping uplinks so that people have a large number of places they can spawn from. atm we have a very small number of maps, because that's not what we are testing, we are testing the game play mechanincs, and we have been playing on the same basic maps for about 4 months, we know where all the spawn points are by default, so the get camped. This issue will be fairly easily resolve once the game goes live and we have thousands of maps, memorizing the spawn patterns on that number of maps is not gonna happen so this kind of event will not likely happen.

This game is not about instant action, or grinding sp, or running up your stats, people do that because we do not yet have the meat of this game, which is taking and holding planets.

If you think I should feel bad for the way I have reacted to you, you should feel worse for coming into a game not knowing what is going on, complaining about things and making assumptions on how things should work. Then your trying to argue this isn't what it is, dude, just walk away.

So my sugestions for you sir, get on comms, you can get a cheap 10 dollar usb headset and be on comms, there is no reason other than laziness for that. then start working with your team. at that point you won't have any issues with spawning unless your team is failing you. I have seen a team of randoms roll even the best squads when they work together. shoot in april I watched groups of randoms roll over anyone that stood in front of them because they worked together, and guess what, they weren't even on comms.

Yes I'm being mean here, but guess what, you are at fault for not participating and then coming here on the forums to whine about mechanics when they are not at fault.

you do know there are such things called drop uplinks? they let you spawn where every you plant them

wow how little you understand proper station camping.

Now to address you main complaint, if your spawning into a spot that is camped and you know it's camped, that your fault. if you don't know it's camped then your not on comms, again your fault. if you are on comms and still don't know it's camped, your team mates suck, this is their fault, but still.

If you spawn into a group of people sitting on a spawn point you better be on comms tells everyone exactly which point it is, how many people, and to not use it. Anything less and it's your fault.

If the enemy has camped you into to one point, you fail, just give it up.

When will spawning be fixed so we don't appear alone in front of a group of six people armed with HMGs and die instantly?

Well I'm sorry if you find everything offensive to you.

And if you can not afford 10 dollars for a cheap headset, then I am sorry for your situation, but at that point I should ask why you are playing Dust at all, but then you would probably find that offensive as well.

Also Zan is not trolling, it's what CCP has said several times http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgvM7av1o1Q

that's a bad excuse V, and you know it.

Good on your friend for helping you out, good on you for paying them back.

I refuse to get into a "My situation" arguement with you. RL is RL but an excuse is nothing more than that.

as for dealing with people, this is a social game, your gonna have to talk to people. some of them are gonna be like zan and G, some of them are gonna be like me, some of them are gonna be "nice" their are others who will lie to your face then as soon as you trust them they will steal eventhing that isn't nailed down.

You have said you play EVE, you should know how important a community is in a CCP game, this is no different..

as to the way I talk to people, sorry, but that's not gonna change and I stand by my statements. your understanding is lacking. you could have easily made this thread completely different as an example here are two possible ways to state your OP that would completely change the tone of this thread

"I am relatively new to Dust514 and I seem to keep spawning into areas with hostiles and killed very quickly. is this a rampant issue or is there a bug in the spawning system"

"The Spawning system seems to not take into account location of hostiles in relation to the spawning point, is this a bug or an intented game mechanic."

Either one of those would have gotten the same point across without the rest of us coming to the conclusions we have.

"HTFU" isn't an insult.

It isn't spiteful on a personal level.

It's part of the intended, supported ethos of New Eden, in which DUST 514 is set, alongside EVE Online. CCP themselves wrote a song about it (check the video out on YouTube). It's how their universe works, and when you're here, you're a part of that environment.

Yes, there are valid reasons for you to take offense to impolite behaviour, but within the setting of an official forum for a game which promotes "HTFU" as one of the core values instilled into their playerbase, there isn't a valid reason to call it immature and impolite.

The "problem" this thread is describing is something which everyone deals with equally, and for which there are in-built counters already in the game. It's also a problem which has been acknowledged by CCP, has been worked on and improved, and is continuing to be improved. If you aren't using the tools provided, that isn't the game's fault. If you're using the proper tools, but the enemy are still spawn camping your team, then you got outplayed. Either they found your Uplink and are camping that too, or they destroyed it to camp the other spawn locations (fixed or random)

The "problem" this thread is describing is something which everyone deals with equally, and for which there are in-built counters already in the game. It's also a problem which has been acknowledged by CCP, has been worked on and improved, and is continuing to be improved. If you aren't using the tools provided, that isn't the game's fault. If you're using the proper tools, but the enemy are still spawn camping your team, then you got outplayed. Either they found your Uplink and are camping that too, or they destroyed it to camp the other spawn locations (fixed or random)

Hence My sugestion the question shouldn't be is it a problem, it should be bug or intended operation.

So... it's not a problem, but CCP has acknowledged it's a problem and has constantly been improving the problem... that isn't a problem. You seem to be playing both sides of the fence here. Either it is a problem, criticism is valid, but it's getting better... or it isn't a problem, and they need to HTFU. But the two are pretty mutually exclusive. Otherwise it's pretty silly to tell someone to HTFU for pointing out an acknowledged issue.