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Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.18 14:49:00 - [1] - Quote is this a bug or this srs? GG CCP.......one of the BEST things u did u now making us pay for it GG
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 349	Posted - 2012.12.18 14:51:00 - [2] - Quote lol I hope this isn't true like ** will I ever pay to do something I can do for free in ANY** other online multiplayer game. lol
Darky Kuzarian Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 143	Posted - 2012.12.18 14:52:00 - [3] - Quote I hope this is a bug otherwise "burn beta" riot is upon us
Eternal Technique Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 281	Posted - 2012.12.18 14:53:00 - [4] - Quote Please tell me this is a mistake. You should NOT have to pay to talk to members within your own clan. Talking in other chat rooms and to EVE players is an extra feature that you should pay for, but this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_O1hM-k3aUY
JW v Weingarten SyNergy Gaming 300	Posted - 2012.12.18 14:53:00 - [5] - Quote talk to each while you are not in the same match ? i don't know any other game on ps3 where this is possible. still sucks if they are asking AUR for it, basically forcing people in corps to buy AUR
jenza aranda BetaMax. 1005	Posted - 2012.12.18 15:08:00 - [6] - Quote im also very strongly against this, most of the people in my corp constantly use corp voice so this is a huge problem for us...
Naturi Riclenore BetaMax. 120	Posted - 2012.12.18 15:16:00 - [7] - Quote This not a bug.. this is how it was intended to be for a while. Now whether one agrees with this or not is up for debate. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=248659#post248659 Quote: ello, Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free: UVT Gives you: - Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST - Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect. UVT is NOT required for: - Team voice chat - Squad voice chat Text chat is of course free everywhere. Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time. Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period.
dustibulo Algintal Core Gallente Federation 0	Posted - 2012.12.18 15:17:00 - [8] - Quote Well, it deppends on its pricing. Since we're going to be able to buy Aur items from other players, it all deppends on how the supply and demand flow works out.
skinn trayde On The Brink 82	Posted - 2012.12.18 15:26:00 - [9] - Quote As much as UVT has been planned to enable corp channel chat (and I hate to say it as a money maker for CCP), I think voice on the whole should be have some of the same structure as EveO has ( detail here ) especially for team/squads, and that Corp channel should always be free of charge. By all means make it a cost for additional corp public channels such as "Corp Recruiting Chat" or "Corp Diplomacy Chat" that the Corp itself pays for to enable voice
Eternal Technique Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 281	Posted - 2012.12.18 15:28:00 - [10] - Quote CCP is essentially forcing players with corps to purchase aurum. This is not right.

Laurent Cazaderon Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 1155	Posted - 2012.12.18 15:29:00 - [11] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: is this a bug or this srs? GG CCP.......one of the BEST things u did u now making us pay for it GG Was always intended to work this way dude. Audio chat has a cost. Yet, what i expect now are the "audio chat room" pack where one individual will be able to afford a UVT for everyone that logs in the room. Corp or Not. Much like a built-in mumble or TS.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.18 15:36:00 - [12] - Quote Eternal Technique wrote: CCP is essentially forcing players with corps to purchase aurum. This is not right. You can still text chat or use squads (and presumably pre-battle teams) to get voice working.
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.12.18 15:39:00 - [13] - Quote I don't think you need UVT, unless you create a private chat room.
dust badger BetaMax. 283	Posted - 2012.12.18 15:39:00 - [14] - Quote meh i see people just going the same route as eve, TS3/Vent/mumble i thought it was strange it worked with corp chat before when they stated it wouldn't, just guess they wanted people to try it out
TiMeSpLiT--TeR Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore 326	Posted - 2012.12.18 15:40:00 - [15] - Quote Did you check the chat if it's on?
A-P-P KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 85	Posted - 2012.12.18 15:43:00 - [16] - Quote If this is true it is a very bad move. I know many people who will not pay and quite a few who will not play Intended or not, bad move
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 886	Posted - 2012.12.18 15:55:00 - [17] - Quote People..don't let this be a deal breaker. Allow me to remind you guys that this is a free game and not everyone will use AUR. So, if you don't want to wait until a game is queued to talk to your squad...then pay $2 and get 4000 AUR which will give you a UVT for more than 300 years (realtime). We've all paid $60 or more for games that we've played for less than a year plus DLCs. We are getting a game for free with free upates that we intend on playing a long time for. What's $2 worth?? Edit: It will be AUR that will help support this game not pepsi or nike ads
NAV HIV The Generals 151	Posted - 2012.12.18 15:55:00 - [18] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: is this a bug or this srs? GG CCP.......one of the BEST things u did u now making us pay for it GG Hope its a bug
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders Red Rock Consortium 295	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:01:00 - [19] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: People..don't let this be a deal breaker. Allow me to remind you guys that this is a free game and not everyone will use AUR. So, if you don't want to wait until a game is queued to talk to your squad...then pay $2 and get 4000 AUR which will give you a UVT for more than 300 years (realtime). We've all paid $60 or more for games that we've played for less than a year plus DLCs. We are getting a game for free with free upates that we intend on playing a long time for. What's $2 worth?? Edit: It will be AUR that will help support this game not pepsi or nike ads Without cash CCP can't feed the hamsters. People, think of the hamsters.
Piercing Serenity Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 181	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:04:00 - [20] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: People..don't let this be a deal breaker. Allow me to remind you guys that this is a free game and not everyone will use AUR. So, if you don't want to wait until a game is queued to talk to your squad...then pay $2 and get 4000 AUR which will give you a UVT for more than 300 years (realtime). We've all paid $60 or more for games that we've played for less than a year plus DLCs. We are getting a game for free with free upates that we intend on playing a long time for. What's $2 worth?? Edit: It will be AUR that will help support this game not pepsi or nike ads I agree. It would be a shame for this new feature to turn someone away from the game. This change only effect large corporations (Smaller corporations will not be hindered by texting in the Corp chat room) and can be quickly solved through Ydubbs' suggestion. Spending two dollars now would guarantee that your great grandchildren would be able to "clan talk". In short, I hope this changes doesn't rub people the wrong way. I don't think it is a fight worth pursuing. Take care, PSN: PiercingSerenity Country: US Class: Assault Corp: Pink.Fluffy.Bunnies. [PFBHz]

NAV HIV The Generals 151	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:07:00 - [21] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: People..don't let this be a deal breaker. Allow me to remind you guys that this is a free game and not everyone will use AUR. So, if you don't want to wait until a game is queued to talk to your squad...then pay $2 and get 4000 AUR which will give you a UVT for more than 300 years (realtime). We've all paid $60 or more for games that we've played for less than a year plus DLCs. We are getting a game for free with free upates that we intend on playing a long time for. What's $2 worth?? Edit: It will be AUR that will help support this game not pepsi or nike ads I agree. It would be a shame for this new feature to turn someone away from the game. This change only effect large corporations (Smaller corporations will not be hindered by texting in the Corp chat room) and can be quickly solved through Ydubbs' suggestion. Spending two dollars now would guarantee that your great grandchildren would be able to "clan talk". In short, I hope this changes doesn't rub people the wrong way. I don't think it is a fight worth pursuing. Take care, PSN: PiercingSerenity Country: US Class: Assault Corp: Pink.Fluffy.Bunnies. [PFBHz] Allow us to transfer some AUR to corp members so that people without AUR can buy the UVT.
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 896	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:08:00 - [22] - Quote Reav Hannari wrote: Without cash CCP can't feed the hamsters. People, think of the hamsters. People will just end up using another voice service if they don't add a way to enable voice for the entire corp CEO/director side.
JW v Weingarten SyNergy Gaming 300	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:09:00 - [23] - Quote spending 2 dollars.... too bad psn cards start from 20 dollars.
Piercing Serenity Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 181	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:12:00 - [24] - Quote NAV HIV wrote: Piercing Serenity wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: People..don't let this be a deal breaker. Allow me to remind you guys that this is a free game and not everyone will use AUR. So, if you don't want to wait until a game is queued to talk to your squad...then pay $2 and get 4000 AUR which will give you a UVT for more than 300 years (realtime). We've all paid $60 or more for games that we've played for less than a year plus DLCs. We are getting a game for free with free upates that we intend on playing a long time for. What's $2 worth?? Edit: It will be AUR that will help support this game not pepsi or nike ads I agree. It would be a shame for this new feature to turn someone away from the game. This change only effect large corporations (Smaller corporations will not be hindered by texting in the Corp chat room) and can be quickly solved through Ydubbs' suggestion. Spending two dollars now would guarantee that your great grandchildren would be able to "clan talk". In short, I hope this changes doesn't rub people the wrong way. I don't think it is a fight worth pursuing. Take care, PSN: PiercingSerenity Country: US Class: Assault Corp: Pink.Fluffy.Bunnies. [PFBHz] Allow us to transfer some AUR to corp members so that people without AUR can buy the UVT. This is an excellent suggestion. Corp wallets would be much improved if players could donate ISK or AUR to corporations of thier choosing. This would allow players who won't or can't pay for UVT to still be very active members in their corporation, while still allowing CCP to make money. Nice solution NAV PSN: PiercingSerenity Country: US Class: Assault Corp: Pink.Fluffy.Bunnies. [PFBHz]
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 966	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:13:00 - [25] - Quote I have plenty of guys in corp that don't have aurum for whatever reasons and being able to use the corp channel on voice was incredibly useful. Sorting out squads, discussing fits, random hilarity, etc. I really hope this is a glitch as this will either drive my guys onto third party comms or somewhere else. Considering how much awesome was deployed in this build it would be a shame if the marketing criminals tainted it. I have run dual comms before, and its a giant pain in the arse.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:13:00 - [26] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: So, if you don't want to wait until a game is queued to talk to your squad...then pay $2 and get 4000 AUR This isn't the cheapest option for in-game voice chat with your squad outside of a battle. Squad voice still works. it's only CORP voice that's disappeared (when it was advertised as a feature of the UVT, not a default functionality). You can put together a squad, turn on your mics, and chat away without any need for UVTs. When you're in-game, you can talk - for free - with your whole team in the team channel. It's going to cost you ONLY when you're talking with people you're not ready to enter battle with, or already in battle with.
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 966	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:15:00 - [27] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: So, if you don't want to wait until a game is queued to talk to your squad...then pay $2 and get 4000 AUR This isn't the cheapest option for in-game voice chat with your squad outside of a battle. Squad voice still works. it's only CORP voice that's disappeared (when it was advertised as a feature of the UVT, not a default functionality). You can put together a squad, turn on your mics, and chat away without any need for UVTs. When you're in-game, you can talk - for free - with your whole team in the team channel. It's going to cost you ONLY when you're talking with people you're not ready to enter battle with, or already in battle with. Being able to get the whole crew on comms in one channel makes sorting into squads much less of an ordeal. Doing it all by keyboard again is going to be terrible.
Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous SyNergy Gaming 242	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:17:00 - [28] - Quote Its stupid, to create an obstacle for competitive play is quite honestly record breakingly stupid. You do realize that a large portion of players are young and dont have credit cards? And despite being young, every member is valuable, so when you have a few players who are now forced out of the in-game chat it creates rifts both socially AND strategically as thats where a lot of discussions would go on. A game thats meant to be hardcore, then throws a spear into a key part of organized competitive play. Smart.
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 896	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:18:00 - [29] - Quote dent 308 wrote: Being able to get the whole crew on comms in one channel makes sorting into squads much less of an ordeal. Doing it all by keyboard again is going to be terrible. Or worse yet the DS3 soft keyboard.
NAV HIV The Generals 151	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:20:00 - [30] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: So, if you don't want to wait until a game is queued to talk to your squad...then pay $2 and get 4000 AUR This isn't the cheapest option for in-game voice chat with your squad outside of a battle. Squad voice still works. it's only CORP voice that's disappeared (when it was advertised as a feature of the UVT, not a default functionality). You can put together a squad, turn on your mics, and chat away without any need for UVTs. When you're in-game, you can talk - for free - with your whole team in the team channel. It's going to cost you ONLY when you're talking with people you're not ready to enter battle with, or already in battle with. But most of us do the talking on Corp Voice. I like the squad idea, but to discuss strategies and ideas with the entire corp by typing.

Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:23:00 - [31] - Quote Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote: Its stupid, to create an obstacle for competitive play is quite honestly record breakingly stupid. You do realize that a large portion of players are young and dont have credit cards? And despite being young, every member is valuable, so when you have a few players who are now forced out of the in-game chat it creates rifts both socially AND strategically as thats where a lot of discussions would go on. A game thats meant to be hardcore, then throws a spear into a key part of organized competitive play. Smart. How many other PS3 games have you played where you get voice comms with people you aren't either about to enter battle with, or already fighting alongside? If and when we get the ability to form full teams before a battle, this shouldn't be enough of a problem to prevent players from organising and discussing things, but it will be JUST recognisable enugh to encourage AUR purchases.
Aotherea Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 29	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:28:00 - [32] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote: Its stupid, to create an obstacle for competitive play is quite honestly record breakingly stupid. You do realize that a large portion of players are young and dont have credit cards? And despite being young, every member is valuable, so when you have a few players who are now forced out of the in-game chat it creates rifts both socially AND strategically as thats where a lot of discussions would go on. A game thats meant to be hardcore, then throws a spear into a key part of organized competitive play. Smart. How many other PS3 games have you played where you get voice comms with people you aren't either about to enter battle with, or already fighting alongside? If and when we get the ability to form full teams before a battle, this shouldn't be enough of a problem to prevent players from organising and discussing things, but it will be JUST recognisable enugh to encourage AUR purchases. not a single game gives you ability to talk with your clan out of the match lol i dont think [sarkazm] but drama needs to be made so WE DEMAND FREE VOICE IN MQ NOWWWWWWW [/sarkazm]
JW v Weingarten SyNergy Gaming 300	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:31:00 - [33] - Quote yes. you can still talk in squad voice. but hello we are talking about corp chat. more than 4 people. In SyNergy we are on corp chat all the time. just talking having fun and teaming up. Now only people with aurum can listen to madavos speeches and my beautiful singing.
Atomic Shiver Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 6	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:33:00 - [34] - Quote making some1 pay to chat in there corp is bonkers idc if its dirt cheap thats put me speechless theres was no need for that there making a killing from people buying items and such CUT THAT OUT BRO
Aotherea Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 29	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:35:00 - [35] - Quote u can talk with entire team while in a match no probs, friend tried just now. not just squad.
NAV HIV The Generals 151	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:37:00 - [36] - Quote JW v Weingarten wrote: yes. you can still talk in squad voice. but hello we are talking about corp chat. more than 4 people. In SyNergy we are on corp chat all the time. just talking having fun and teaming up. Now only people with aurum can listen to madavos speeches and my beautiful singing. LOL going to have similar issues
NAV HIV The Generals 151	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:37:00 - [37] - Quote Aotherea wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote: Its stupid, to create an obstacle for competitive play is quite honestly record breakingly stupid. You do realize that a large portion of players are young and dont have credit cards? And despite being young, every member is valuable, so when you have a few players who are now forced out of the in-game chat it creates rifts both socially AND strategically as thats where a lot of discussions would go on. A game thats meant to be hardcore, then throws a spear into a key part of organized competitive play. Smart. How many other PS3 games have you played where you get voice comms with people you aren't either about to enter battle with, or already fighting alongside? If and when we get the ability to form full teams before a battle, this shouldn't be enough of a problem to prevent players from organising and discussing things, but it will be JUST recognisable enugh to encourage AUR purchases. not a single game gives you ability to talk with your clan out of the match lol i dont think [sarkazm] but drama needs to be made so WE DEMAND FREE VOICE IN MQ NOWWWWWWW [/sarkazm] MAG
Atomic Shiver Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 6	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:37:00 - [38] - Quote ill have to try that thx for heads up
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 896	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:38:00 - [39] - Quote At least if we had a corp armory where we could stash some UVTs and then distribute them to corp mates it wouldn't be a big deal.
Atomic Shiver Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 6	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:40:00 - [40] - Quote word

A-P-P KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 85	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:40:00 - [41] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Piercing Serenity wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: People..don't let this be a deal breaker. Allow me to remind you guys that this is a free game and not everyone will use AUR. So, if you don't want to wait until a game is queued to talk to your squad...then pay $2 and get 4000 AUR which will give you a UVT for more than 300 years (realtime). We've all paid $60 or more for games that we've played for less than a year plus DLCs. We are getting a game for free with free upates that we intend on playing a long time for. What's $2 worth?? Edit: It will be AUR that will help support this game not pepsi or nike ads I agree. It would be a shame for this new feature to turn someone away from the game. This change only effect large corporations (Smaller corporations will not be hindered by texting in the Corp chat room) and can be quickly solved through Ydubbs' suggestion. Spending two dollars now would guarantee that your great grandchildren would be able to "clan talk". In short, I hope this changes doesn't rub people the wrong way. I don't think it is a fight worth pursuing. Take care, PSN: PiercingSerenity Country: US Class: Assault Corp: Pink.Fluffy.Bunnies. [PFBHz] Allow us to transfer some AUR to corp members so that people without AUR can buy the UVT. This is an excellent suggestion. Corp wallets would be much improved if players could donate ISK or AUR to corporations of thier choosing. This would allow players who won't or can't pay for UVT to still be very active members in their corporation, while still allowing CCP to make money. Nice solution NAV PSN: PiercingSerenity Country: US Class: Assault Corp: Pink.Fluffy.Bunnies. [PFBHz] So because I have a credit card I'm supposed to fund your UVT. No thanks. Maybe for my closest of corp mates but I can guarantee most of them will not accept and will pay their own way. This is the most pay to win thing I've heard. Going into a corp battle will see little to no organization without a UVT with this model People will be all over the place not knowing if they're supposed to be in a squad or not. Out of 20 people which 8 are in the corp battle? Definitely the ones with a working UVT. Oh, you can't afford one? No corp battle for you. Lets have 2 squads ready for a corp battle that takes place in 45 minutes. Can't even talk between squads to coordinate the game until we hit the war barge. It's dumb in so many ways.
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 125	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:46:00 - [42] - Quote its an unnecessary barrier to a social gaming experience. The more people play the more likely people will use arum edit: in fact reminds me of previous builds where everyone just went to Teamspeak.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 219	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:52:00 - [43] - Quote This is really going to dampen the entire social aspect to this game. Fair enough if it was a PC game, where everyone has a keyboard and can type pretty quickly for chat but this is a console and people will find it a major inconvenience to not be able to talk to their corp mates. I never liked the idea of the UVT in the first place. I thought that aurum was only supposed to be for items that could also be gained using isk? Where is the isk UVT?
OgTheEnigma Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 90	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:53:00 - [44] - Quote I still refuse to spend money on a beta. I will most likely buy some stuff for Dust in the future, but not until it's been officially released. Corp chat so far has been pretty fundamental for organising corp battles and to add this new restriction is just anti-competitive. I'd go as far as saying that this just about crosses the pay to win threshold, which CCP have supposedly been adamant that they don't want to do. I hope they see the error of their ways and reinstate this feature.
Jaiden Longshot Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 216	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:54:00 - [45] - Quote At the very least, Corps /Alliances should be able to rent / lease chats with voice on a monthly basis rather than hitting up all individual members for Aurum. This way no one is excluded from being able to chat with their corps / alliances and CCP still gets their $ for the use of the chat server
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 125	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:56:00 - [46] - Quote Jaiden Longshot wrote: At the very least, Corps /Alliances should be able to rent / lease chats with voice on a monthly basis rather than hitting up all individual members for Aurum. This way no one is excluded from being able to chat with their corps / alliances and CCP still gets their $ for the use of the chat server Personally, I think people will just move to teamspeak or other services they already have/ use
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.12.18 17:05:00 - [47] - Quote Free corp chat increases the value of UVT. Good corps will use out of game comms like all the EVE corps. People were actually getting back on EVE voice to talk to us. Now they won't even bother. This decision will COST CCP money, not improve their revenue.
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 966	Posted - 2012.12.18 17:08:00 - [48] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Free corp chat increases the value of UVT. Good corps will use out of game comms like all the EVE corps. People were actually getting back on EVE voice to talk to us. Now they won't even bother. This decision will COST CCP money, not improve their revenue. This is all valid. I have never seen people use eve voice before, and over the last few weeks on sisi it was becoming more standardly used.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.18 17:12:00 - [49] - Quote Question Have they changed UVT price yet? I won't be on for hours...
SATORI CORUSCANTi Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 253	Posted - 2012.12.18 17:14:00 - [50] - Quote xAckie wrote: Jaiden Longshot wrote: At the very least, Corps /Alliances should be able to rent / lease chats with voice on a monthly basis rather than hitting up all individual members for Aurum. This way no one is excluded from being able to chat with their corps / alliances and CCP still gets their $ for the use of the chat server Personally, I think people will just move to teamspeak or other services they already have/ use And this is what we did when voice chat didn't work/sucked in this game. It was an inconvenience then, and will be now. This is taking a step in the wrong direction.

OgTheEnigma Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 90	Posted - 2012.12.18 17:20:00 - [51] - Quote xAckie wrote: Jaiden Longshot wrote: At the very least, Corps /Alliances should be able to rent / lease chats with voice on a monthly basis rather than hitting up all individual members for Aurum. This way no one is excluded from being able to chat with their corps / alliances and CCP still gets their $ for the use of the chat server Personally, I think people will just move to teamspeak or other services they already have/ use Not an option for me, my mic only works via bluetooth and my laptop doesn't have a transmitter. I imagine it's much easier for a lot of players to have voice chat work solely through the PS3.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 338	Posted - 2012.12.18 17:33:00 - [52] - Quote Im hopeing this is just an artifact bug that snuck in with the new build their was outrage the first time they tried this im sure they will change it back again its not in ccps intrest to fragment the community
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.12.18 17:59:00 - [53] - Quote UVT = 10AUR So a 30day UVT = 10 AUR which means for 1 year its 120 AUR How many of you spend more AUR on dropsuits and weapons or even on boosters? i
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:02:00 - [54] - Quote Snake those prices are Beta prices. They cost around the same as boosters when they were first introduced (7000ish AUR for a week). Fancy spending 14000 for 2 weeks of voice comms? Nah. Me neither.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 369	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:02:00 - [55] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: UVT = 10AUR So a 30day UVT = 10 AUR which means for 1 year its 120 AUR How many of you spend more AUR on dropsuits and weapons or even on boosters? i The price was lowered to 10 AUR so that we could buy them without spending too much AUR. I can't remember their exact price, but they were quite expensive before the price decrease. They'll see a price increase once we move out of beta.
Brush Master HavoK Core 162	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:03:00 - [56] - Quote CCP I stronger recommend restoring the Corporation voice for all until you have a way for either the CEO to pay for an entire channel or have a Corporation vault that allows us to donate to other members.
G Torq ALTA B2O 88	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:07:00 - [57] - Quote Eternal Technique wrote: CCP is essentially forcing players with corps to purchase aurum. This is not right. Makes sense to me; if you want to go corp, to use the avanced features of the game (corp is not required for playing), paying AUR would be right.
SATORI CORUSCANTi Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 253	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:11:00 - [58] - Quote G Torq wrote: Eternal Technique wrote: CCP is essentially forcing players with corps to purchase aurum. This is not right. Makes sense to me; if you want to go corp, to use the avanced features of the game (corp is not required for playing), paying AUR would be right. A corporation may not be required for playing for someone still in the starter corp. Playing with my corp is one of the only things that made this game bearable.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:14:00 - [59] - Quote SATORI CORUSCANTi wrote: Playing with my corp is one of the only things that made this game bearable. amen to that!
Telcontar Dunedain Imperfects Negative-Feedback 328	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:15:00 - [60] - Quote Brush Master wrote: CCP I stronger recommend restoring the Corporation voice for all until you have a way for either the CEO to pay for an entire channel or have a Corporation vault that allows us to donate to other members. Pretty much this. This was a dumb change to put in until paying for an entire corp at once is in game or there is a way to distribute UVT to members. One or both. Otherwise this change should be reverted.

Rebel3010 Lost-Legion 21	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:16:00 - [61] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: People..don't let this be a deal breaker. Allow me to remind you guys that this is a free game and not everyone will use AUR. So, if you don't want to wait until a game is queued to talk to your squad...then pay $2 and get 4000 AUR which will give you a UVT for more than 300 years (realtime). We've all paid $60 or more for games that we've played for less than a year plus DLCs. We are getting a game for free with free upates that we intend on playing a long time for. What's $2 worth?? Edit: It will be AUR that will help support this game not pepsi or nike ads ok. ill pull that $2 out of my jobless ass. im broke. i cant see any money coming my way anytime soon. where its true that you can talk via Text, itll just flood the chat channel in Corp, message after message, when with voice, all you need is to reconize the persons voice. make this UVT crap for created channels/EVE-DUST communication. my price for using voice chat was the 15$ i spent geting the headset. let me tell you that 15$ was not easly obtained. i sold alot of my favoret games to get that and Black Ops used, and Game Exchange doesnt have PSN cards.
Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 784	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:22:00 - [62] - Quote https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=263211#post263211 FAQ on UVT from CCP. Highlights : -CCP will be putting out a 'corpwide' UVT item that will allow everyone in the corp to use voice in chat regardless of having a UVT of their own -ALL AURUM ITEMS WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR ISK (Including UVT's) when the secondary market gets in -The only reason the UVT exists is because CCP needs to pay vivox fees for using their voicechat.
Moloko Boots Opus Arcana Orion Empire 33	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:28:00 - [63] - Quote other than the fact that it's beta, I have no problem with paying to voice comms(when it goes live). The way it is priced now you get 4k aur for $1.99 and it cost next to nothing for the UVT. but still, if you are only paying 2 bucks to play this and be able to talk its a great deal.. think about the $60 price tag on other games and the 10 to 20 bucks you pay for every expansion pack. 4,000 Aur for 2 buck, 10 Aur for UVT(30 days)= 400 UVT so yes CCP is "forcing" you to play a free game and pay $2 if you want to talk to your corp for years(of course that's just the current price)
Skihids Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 969	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:32:00 - [64] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=263211#post263211 -The only reason the UVT exists is because CCP needs to pay vivox fees for using their voicechat. This appears to simply be a cost recovery model to cover the payments to their vendor. Remember, the corp channel links to Eve so it uses an outside company who charges for their service. It's free to play, but CCP isn't going to pay for you to play.
A-P-P KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 85	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:38:00 - [65] - Quote I got a code for free very early on and have spent $40 so far on beta testin and fully expect to pay $20 every few months. Nowhere else do you pay for things in a beta. You're basically working for free to help them make a quality game. I know, and have met a lot of people who have paid for the merc pack just to beta test for CCP. I also know one guy who has bought 2 $99.99 aurum packs already. CCP is making money here To milk pennies off beta testers for fundamental and necessary voice comms is just wrong
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:46:00 - [66] - Quote It's stupid. 500k EvE accounts. 50k online at 1 time ever. What is wrong with borrowing the 450k unused channels that are ALREADY paid for? Sorry but I don't see any reason to pay for services which are already paid for. Charging twice for the same service is Bullshit.
Naturi Riclenore BetaMax. 120	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:48:00 - [67] - Quote The purpose of the UVT was stated MONTHS ago. The fact that Corp was able to use it after player corps were introduced was a bug. remember VC does not go through SONYs servers, it goes through EVE Onlines voice services. CCP in no way tricked anyone as it was stated exactly how a UVT could be used. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=248659#post248659 Quote: Hello, Just to clarify what UVT is supposed to enable and what you get for free: UVT Gives you: - Ability to voice chat in custom channels, DUST or EVE/DUST - Ability to voice chat in corporation channels, alliance channels, ect. UVT is NOT required for: - Team voice chat - Squad voice chat Text chat is of course free everywhere. Players can speak / listen to one channel at a time. Keep in mind that price is still subject to change during the beta period. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=263211#post263211 Quote: Q: Will the price of a UVT stay at 1 AUR after closed beta ends? A: No, this is a temporary price to encourage players to test the feature. Final pricing for UVTs has not been determined Q: Why do DUST players have to pay for voice chat and EVE players do not? A: In EVE Online, we can cover the ongoing costs of voice chat through the gameGÇÖs subscription fee. Because DUST is free-to-play, we will need players to cover some of the costs of voice chat. Q: ArenGÇÖt UVTs a pay-to-win feature since they make communication easier and are only available for purchase with AUR? A: We understand this concern and plan to address it before the game ships via the in-game player market, which will allow players to buy and sell UVTs with ISK, the currency awarded in game.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:52:00 - [68] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=263211#post263211 FAQ on UVT from CCP. Highlights : -CCP will be putting out a 'corpwide' UVT item that will allow everyone in the corp to use voice in chat regardless of having a UVT of their own This point isn't correct. You're saying it's definite, when that post states they're LOOKING AT the option of setting up an item that does this - there's no confirmation that it will happen.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.18 19:03:00 - [69] - Quote I'd still like to know why we can't ride on the back of EvE subs. Secondly, what if you play EvE & Dust? Should you be forced to pay AGAIN, for voice comms you already pay a subscription for?
Vane Arcadia ZionTCD Legacy Rising 115	Posted - 2012.12.18 19:09:00 - [70] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: People..don't let this be a deal breaker. Allow me to remind you guys that this is a free game and not everyone will use AUR. So, if you don't want to wait until a game is queued to talk to your squad...then pay $2 and get 4000 AUR which will give you a UVT for more than 300 years (realtime). you don't actually think it will be 1 AUR do you ? The price is subject to change - expect it to be "as much as CCP can get away with".

fahrenheitM Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 212	Posted - 2012.12.18 19:16:00 - [71] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: I'd still like to know why we can't ride on the back of EvE subs. It's the American Dream, Freeloading off others!
Brush Master HavoK Core 162	Posted - 2012.12.18 19:23:00 - [72] - Quote fahrenheitM wrote: Tony Calif wrote: I'd still like to know why we can't ride on the back of EvE subs. It's the American Dream, Freeloading off others! It's more of a we are a social people and like to talk. Since I can't give friends AUR that are not able to get it, for whatever reason, this is removing functionality that made the game fun. Even if freeloader stay freeloaders, paying gamers will most likely buy stuff for those really good freeloaders in the group. Options should have been added before the removal was made/fixed. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=47926&find=unread
Nova Knife Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 784	Posted - 2012.12.18 19:24:00 - [73] - Quote Quote: you don't actually think it will be 1 AUR do you ? The price is subject to change - expect it to be "as much as CCP can get away with". CCP has said repeatedly the UVT is a nonprofit item. It only exists because they need to pay another company for the voice chat. They are not going to gouge their players on this, expect it to be a pretty cheap aurum item.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.18 19:26:00 - [74] - Quote Nova it was -ú15 a month I seem to remember. That's not cheap. That's more than an EvE sub. Edit: The original UVT threadnaught https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=30447 All prices in that thread are from back when 400 AUR was -ú1.59 So it'll be -ú5 a month. Less than an EvE sub, my bad.
Naturi Riclenore BetaMax. 120	Posted - 2012.12.18 19:48:00 - [75] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Nova it was -ú15 a month I seem to remember. That's not cheap. That's more than an EvE sub. When it initially came out, it was still kinda cheap.. in fact let me pull up the original pricing (before the 1 AUR pricing change) https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=247120#post247120 60 - 1 Day 150 - 3 Day 250 - 7 Day 900 - 30 Day A merc pack at the time gave you 4,000 AUR (before x10 AUR change). So you would need to pay $20 3x a year (1 every 4 months) or $60 a year for chat = $5 mo. So it was never more than an eve subscription; but it was enough that people didn't really like how they were priced. Since we are not paying a subscription, CCP does need to somehow recover the cost, but at the same time, not make us feel like they are gouging us. I think the more resonable question you asked to get answered is: What if you have an EVE account already? Since you are already paying for the voice through the EVE subscription? I would like to see that one answered
fahrenheitM Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 212	Posted - 2012.12.18 20:11:00 - [76] - Quote Brush Master wrote: fahrenheitM wrote: Tony Calif wrote: I'd still like to know why we can't ride on the back of EvE subs. It's the American Dream, Freeloading off others! It's more of a we are a social people and like to talk. Since I can't give friends AUR that are not able to get it, for whatever reason, this is removing functionality that made the game fun. Even if freeloader stay freeloaders, paying gamers will most likely buy stuff for those really good freeloaders in the group. Options should have been added before the removal was made/fixed. https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=47926&find=unread Good lord, did you even read what I had quoted? Obviously, the question is rhetorical.
Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 417	Posted - 2012.12.18 21:03:00 - [77] - Quote Nova Knife wrote: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=263211#post263211 -CCP will be putting out a 'corpwide' UVT item that will allow everyone in the corp to use voice in chat regardless of having a UVT of their own This is the crux of the issue, though. We don't HAVE this item. Let's be honest with ourselves guys- we have to play the role of Dust's pied pipers right now. People burn out due to various reasons, and one of the major ones is that the social aspect of the game is severely lacking right now. We might have large corps, but we can't play with our friends in more than tiny 8 man groups. If we want to play with more than 4, we have to schedule the battle, rather than it being instantaneous and fluid. The one thing that was keeping a lot of people coming back was the ability to activate on corp chat and instantly be in the action with their corp mates. To restrict the corp channel's voice freedom without giving us access to the corp wide UVT is either a misguided or a hasty decision. Exactly as before, all it will do is fragment the remaining player base and push away those who have been waiting for improvements. Everyone is willing to pay, but while the corp UVT is in limbo there's only one option- continue to give us corp chat for free. When those corp wide UVT's come out, you can bet your ass we'll be lining up to buy the things.
Reimus Klinsman BetaMax. 319	Posted - 2012.12.18 21:22:00 - [78] - Quote The more money grubbing CCP gets, the less I intend on paying. I feel quite uneasy supporting a company that screws its customers. CCP nearly lost me as a customer when they introduced Macrotransactions in Eve and still required a subscription. Edit: They did lose my girlfriend and her 4 accounts partly because of that move. Also I believe they had about a 10% drop in subscriptions.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.12.18 21:40:00 - [79] - Quote Not to just play Devil's Advocate, but CCP has to pay Vivox for the voice infrastructure. That's part of the subscription cost of EVE, but as a free-to-play game, that isn't an available option. Besides, I would imagine UVTs would have the same lack of market restrictions as other AURUM items, allowing them to be resold by players for ISK. I would prefer a greater focus on cosmetic items for monetization, as Planetside 2 has proven that even with a buggy-ass game and some shoddy mechanics, you can make bank on camo paint and hood ornaments. I think that would be an option all of us would prefer, but UVTs aren't the end of the world.
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.12.18 21:45:00 - [80] - Quote A-P-P wrote: If this is true it is a very bad move. I know many people who will not pay and quite a few who will not play Intended or not, bad move I for one will never pay for UVT in a teambased large scale mmo

Christ0pher Blair Deep Space Republic 34	Posted - 2012.12.19 00:05:00 - [81] - Quote JW v Weingarten wrote: talk to each while you are not in the same match ? i don't know any other game on ps3 where this is possible. still sucks if they are asking AUR for it, basically forcing people in corps to buy AUR Picking straws. The thing that you could do in most the F2P and P2P games for 'free' that include Voice or typed chat rooms :: Corp Chat The thing other F2P or P2P (MMO) games make you pay for is usally :: World/Global Chat It is mostly used as an anti-spam filter for a game that doesn't regulate multiple accounts. It is not used as a game-limitation (as it appears in this case). I agree with the sucking, AUR was never meant to be used as a way to gain a permanent advantage over non-paying members.
Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.19 02:20:00 - [82] - Quote this wont be a big issue if CCP actually had a corp wide UVT which one person can buy and enable on the corp channel its not a problem to pay tbh, but it is a problem FORCING every single corp member to pay a seperate fee because like ppl said not everyone has access to a credit card (kids) and shouldnt force everyone to buy a PSN card for some aurum to socialize. I'll gladly pay for my corpwide uvt for my guys tbh i got no issue with that i know they need to make money
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.19 02:22:00 - [83] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: A-P-P wrote: If this is true it is a very bad move. I know many people who will not pay and quite a few who will not play Intended or not, bad move I for one will never pay for UVT in a teambased large scale mmo And you're never going to HAVE to pay for UVTs for team voice, because you get team and squad channels voice-enabled for free.
jenza aranda BetaMax. 1005	Posted - 2012.12.19 02:30:00 - [84] - Quote it wouldnt be so bad if they had the player market in so then they could start trading and see the isk price of UVTs, but some people can't/wont buy UVTs and some people dont have their computer by their PS3 le sigh
Ribbons Reborns Doomheim 68	Posted - 2012.12.19 03:06:00 - [85] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: this wont be a big issue if CCP actually had a corp wide UVT which one person can buy and enable on the corp channel its not a problem to pay tbh, but it is a problem FORCING every single corp member to pay a seperate fee because like ppl said not everyone has access to a credit card (kids) and shouldnt force everyone to buy a PSN card for some aurum to socialize. I'll gladly pay for my corpwide uvt for my guys tbh i got no issue with that i know they need to make money Dawwwwwww, Mavado loves his not even decent or ranked scrubs in SyN.
A-P-P KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 85	Posted - 2012.12.19 03:08:00 - [86] - Quote Quick, everyone, the teamspeak iOS app is still free for a few more days. Go get it
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.19 03:17:00 - [87] - Quote So people still have complaints about corp chat being a paid service? Feel free to take my up on my challenge.

CCP Frame C C P C C P Alliance 470	Posted - 2012.12.19 06:07:00 - [88] - Quote Hey guys, We are currently investigating this issue and will update you here the moment we have more information available. Thank you for your patience.

Mavado V Noriega SyNergy Gaming 2282	Posted - 2012.12.19 06:12:00 - [89] - Quote Ribbons Reborns wrote: Mavado V Noriega wrote: this wont be a big issue if CCP actually had a corp wide UVT which one person can buy and enable on the corp channel its not a problem to pay tbh, but it is a problem FORCING every single corp member to pay a seperate fee because like ppl said not everyone has access to a credit card (kids) and shouldnt force everyone to buy a PSN card for some aurum to socialize. I'll gladly pay for my corpwide uvt for my guys tbh i got no issue with that i know they need to make money Dawwwwwww, Mavado loves his not even decent or ranked scrubs in SyN. lol should add in cheap/broke in there too tbh @ Frame ty for the reply, much appreciated
KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.12.19 06:16:00 - [90] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are currently investigating this issue and will update you here the moment we have more information available. Thank you for your patience. Thank you for responding, I really appreciate it.

Leither Yiltron KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 417	Posted - 2012.12.19 06:26:00 - [91] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are currently investigating this issue and will update you here the moment we have more information available. Thank you for your patience. This is definitely relieving. I can't wait until we have our corp channels back.
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion 395	Posted - 2012.12.19 07:59:00 - [92] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: It's stupid. 500k EvE accounts. 50k online at 1 time ever. What is wrong with borrowing the 450k unused channels that are ALREADY paid for? Sorry but I don't see any reason to pay for services which are already paid for. Charging twice for the same service is Bullshit. This. From what I've heard, most big EVE corps use things like Teamspeak, vent or mumble rather than EVE's voice chat, but they still pay for the voice chat as part of their subscription, even though they don't use it. Why can't we just use the same servers as them, that have already been paid for? Especially since we're going to be in the same corporations as they, meaning we will be using the same channel as they are.
Rasatsu Much Crying Old Experts 437	Posted - 2012.12.19 09:45:00 - [93] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: Tony Calif wrote: It's stupid. 500k EvE accounts. 50k online at 1 time ever. What is wrong with borrowing the 450k unused channels that are ALREADY paid for? Sorry but I don't see any reason to pay for services which are already paid for. Charging twice for the same service is Bullshit. This. From what I've heard, most big EVE corps use things like Teamspeak, vent or mumble rather than EVE's voice chat, but they still pay for the voice chat as part of their subscription, even though they don't use it. Why can't we just use the same servers as them, that have already been paid for? Especially since we're going to be in the same corporations as they, meaning we will be using the same channel as they are. Wait... you think those are paid for already? You really think CCP paid for 500k voice channels? Are you... mental?
Tectonious Falcon The Southern Legion 395	Posted - 2012.12.19 10:07:00 - [94] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: Tectonious Falcon wrote: Tony Calif wrote: It's stupid. 500k EvE accounts. 50k online at 1 time ever. What is wrong with borrowing the 450k unused channels that are ALREADY paid for? Sorry but I don't see any reason to pay for services which are already paid for. Charging twice for the same service is Bullshit. This. From what I've heard, most big EVE corps use things like Teamspeak, vent or mumble rather than EVE's voice chat, but they still pay for the voice chat as part of their subscription, even though they don't use it. Why can't we just use the same servers as them, that have already been paid for? Especially since we're going to be in the same corporations as they, meaning we will be using the same channel as they are. Wait... you think those are paid for already? You really think CCP paid for 500k voice channels? Are you... mental? Please quote the section of my post where I said this.
Odiain Suliis ZionTCD Legacy Rising 112	Posted - 2012.12.19 10:27:00 - [95] - Quote Tectonious Falcon wrote: Tony Calif wrote: It's stupid. 500k EvE accounts. 50k online at 1 time ever. What is wrong with borrowing the 450k unused channels that are ALREADY paid for? Sorry but I don't see any reason to pay for services which are already paid for. Charging twice for the same service is Bullshit. This. From what I've heard, most big EVE corps use things like Teamspeak, vent or mumble rather than EVE's voice chat, but they still pay for the voice chat as part of their subscription, even though they don't use it. Why can't we just use the same servers as them, that have already been paid for? Especially since we're going to be in the same corporations as they, meaning we will be using the same channel as they are. And what should we do when/if DUST picks up and grows playerbase as bigas EVE or larger? You suppose that EVE sub's are still paying our voice comm bills? What if DUST has 1mil- 3mil users that use voice comms? You think that that portion of EVE sub that is reserved for EVE-vioce bills are enough?
Guinevere Bravo SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 140	Posted - 2012.12.19 10:40:00 - [96] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are currently investigating this issue and will update you here the moment we have more information available. Thank you for your patience. Im glad your looking into this Frame, It will destroy the ability for new players to get invovled and will push them to think this F2P game is going to be full of little 'neccessary purchases' which it's not. Corp chat is one of the only few social features that is currently working well, if half the corp cant use the chat then whats the point?.
JW v Weingarten SyNergy Gaming 300	Posted - 2012.12.19 10:55:00 - [97] - Quote lol@peoplesayingtouseteamspeak There are more people that are not able to set up a pc/laptop/whatever you wanna use to get teamspeak running next to their ps3 than people without aurum.
Captain-Awesome Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 349	Posted - 2012.12.19 11:42:00 - [98] - Quote JW v Weingarten wrote: lol@peoplesayingtouseteamspeak There are more people that are not able to set up a pc/laptop/whatever you wanna use to get teamspeak running next to their ps3 than people without aurum. I use my phone :p
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.19 11:55:00 - [99] - Quote Still waiting to hear why we can't just freeload off the EvE subs, and what about people with EvE accs? Will all EvE players be provided with a monthly UVT to donate to their Dust char, or their friends? Or maybe 30x 1day UVT, 4x weekly, whatever would be best for EvE players trying to contact Dusters. There could be a great deal of benefit to this, including people subbing for EvE if it works out only fractionally more expensive.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.12.19 12:56:00 - [100] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Still waiting to hear why we can't just freeload off the EvE subs, and what about people with EvE accs? Will all EvE players be provided with a monthly UVT to donate to their Dust char, or their friends? Or maybe 30x 1day UVT, 4x weekly, whatever would be best for EvE players trying to contact Dusters. There could be a great deal of benefit to this, including people subbing for EvE if it works out only fractionally more expensive. Because the EVE subs have already been paying for the development of this game and also the development of another game called World of Darkness about vampires i think This UVT as it is allows all the ppl in a corp to talk to each other which with some corps is already 200+ members, no other game console game that i can think of allowed this either tbh Dont say MAG either because you could only talk to ppl in your 8 man squad or 16 if glitched, clan deploy later on allowed upto the full 128 but for example at =V= if everyone was on at once 500+ ppl you still couldnt talk to everyone you would need 4 CD open but also that was only talking to ppl in your corp. But also that was when out of game with CD not ingame Think about custom chat channels that ppl make so corp leaders can get into one and talk about an alliance or whatever without having to drop tags and join someone else for 10min I can see why ppl dont want the UVT and i can understand it but the UVT is still unfinished and is still getting tweeked as to what channels it will effect and how much AUR it will cost and if we can buy a bunch and give to ppl in our corp or if it will be available for ISK Right now tho short term solution is get the 4000 AUR package for -ú1.59 and buy 33yrs and 3 months worth of UVTs if you really want to at the current beta price

NAV HIV The Generals 151	Posted - 2012.12.19 13:12:00 - [101] - Quote Mavado V Noriega wrote: this wont be a big issue if CCP actually had a corp wide UVT which one person can buy and enable on the corp channel its not a problem to pay tbh, but it is a problem FORCING every single corp member to pay a seperate fee because like ppl said not everyone has access to a credit card (kids) and shouldnt force everyone to buy a PSN card for some aurum to socialize. I'll gladly pay for my corpwide uvt for my guys tbh i got no issue with that i know they need to make money I dont mind doing that either.
Brush Master HavoK Core 162	Posted - 2012.12.19 18:46:00 - [102] - Quote CCP Frame wrote: Hey guys, We are currently investigating this issue and will update you here the moment we have more information available. Thank you for your patience. Give us a name so we can rage on that poor developer haha.
PalaceGuard CrimeWave Syndicate 15	Posted - 2012.12.19 23:50:00 - [103] - Quote If CCP eventually allows selling UVTs on the market, then players can buy them with isk, or perhaps do a private transfer from player to player? A corporation might even might even buy them for their members.
Sandromin Hes Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. 204	Posted - 2012.12.20 00:33:00 - [104] - Quote Rasatsu wrote: Tectonious Falcon wrote: Tony Calif wrote: It's stupid. 500k EvE accounts. 50k online at 1 time ever. What is wrong with borrowing the 450k unused channels that are ALREADY paid for? Sorry but I don't see any reason to pay for services which are already paid for. Charging twice for the same service is Bullshit. This. From what I've heard, most big EVE corps use things like Teamspeak, vent or mumble rather than EVE's voice chat, but they still pay for the voice chat as part of their subscription, even though they don't use it. Why can't we just use the same servers as them, that have already been paid for? Especially since we're going to be in the same corporations as they, meaning we will be using the same channel as they are. Wait... you think those are paid for already? You really think CCP paid for 500k voice channels? Are you... mental? Yes, because all of those 500k people definitely have their own corporation, and don't share the same local chat or anything... nope, they get private chats all to themselves... Seriously? Lolno. They pay for 1 voice server that has thousands of sub-channels. You didn't read what he typed, did you?
Sytonis Auran Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION 52	Posted - 2012.12.20 01:03:00 - [105] - Quote PalaceGuard wrote: If CCP eventually allows selling UVTs on the market, then players can buy them with isk, or perhaps do a private transfer from player to player? A corporation might even might even buy them for their members. I'm not sure about the whole issue of UVT. I can see both sides though I would quite quickly change my mind should UVT price raise (too much.). From the other viewpoint, a low low cost item that is likely to be bought by a many is great income for CCP. Regarding the point quoted. Certain sections of Eve has shown great hostility to Dust 514, it would be altogether too easy for them to manipulate the market and price this item out of reach of ISK purchase.


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