DUST Search - Need UVT for corp voice now? GG CCP

Piercing Serenity wrote:

NAV HIV wrote:

Piercing Serenity wrote:

Ydubbs81 RND wrote:

People..don't let this be a deal breaker. Allow me to remind you guys that this is a free game and not everyone will use AUR. So, if you don't want to wait until a game is queued to talk to your squad...then pay $2 and get 4000 AUR which will give you a UVT for more than 300 years (realtime).

We've all paid $60 or more for games that we've played for less than a year plus DLCs. We are getting a game for free with free upates that we intend on playing a long time for. What's $2 worth??

Edit: It will be AUR that will help support this game not pepsi or nike ads

I agree. It would be a shame for this new feature to turn someone away from the game. This change only effect large corporations (Smaller corporations will not be hindered by texting in the Corp chat room) and can be quickly solved through Ydubbs' suggestion. Spending two dollars now would guarantee that your great grandchildren would be able to "clan talk".

In short, I hope this changes doesn't rub people the wrong way. I don't think it is a fight worth pursuing. Take care,

PSN: PiercingSerenity
Country: US
Class: Assault
Corp: Pink.Fluffy.Bunnies. [PFBHz]

Allow us to transfer some AUR to corp members so that people without AUR can buy the UVT.

This is an excellent suggestion. Corp wallets would be much improved if players could donate ISK or AUR to corporations of thier choosing. This would allow players who won't or can't pay for UVT to still be very active members in their corporation, while still allowing CCP to make money. Nice solution NAV

PSN: PiercingSerenity
Country: US
Class: Assault
Corp: Pink.Fluffy.Bunnies. [PFBHz]

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Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:23:00 - [31] - Quote Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote: Its stupid, to create an obstacle for competitive play is quite honestly record breakingly stupid. You do realize that a large portion of players are young and dont have credit cards? And despite being young, every member is valuable, so when you have a few players who are now forced out of the in-game chat it creates rifts both socially AND strategically as thats where a lot of discussions would go on. A game thats meant to be hardcore, then throws a spear into a key part of organized competitive play. Smart. How many other PS3 games have you played where you get voice comms with people you aren't either about to enter battle with, or already fighting alongside? If and when we get the ability to form full teams before a battle, this shouldn't be enough of a problem to prevent players from organising and discussing things, but it will be JUST recognisable enugh to encourage AUR purchases.
Aotherea Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 29	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:28:00 - [32] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote: Its stupid, to create an obstacle for competitive play is quite honestly record breakingly stupid. You do realize that a large portion of players are young and dont have credit cards? And despite being young, every member is valuable, so when you have a few players who are now forced out of the in-game chat it creates rifts both socially AND strategically as thats where a lot of discussions would go on. A game thats meant to be hardcore, then throws a spear into a key part of organized competitive play. Smart. How many other PS3 games have you played where you get voice comms with people you aren't either about to enter battle with, or already fighting alongside? If and when we get the ability to form full teams before a battle, this shouldn't be enough of a problem to prevent players from organising and discussing things, but it will be JUST recognisable enugh to encourage AUR purchases. not a single game gives you ability to talk with your clan out of the match lol i dont think [sarkazm] but drama needs to be made so WE DEMAND FREE VOICE IN MQ NOWWWWWWW [/sarkazm]
JW v Weingarten SyNergy Gaming 300	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:31:00 - [33] - Quote yes. you can still talk in squad voice. but hello we are talking about corp chat. more than 4 people. In SyNergy we are on corp chat all the time. just talking having fun and teaming up. Now only people with aurum can listen to madavos speeches and my beautiful singing.
Atomic Shiver Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 6	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:33:00 - [34] - Quote making some1 pay to chat in there corp is bonkers idc if its dirt cheap thats put me speechless theres was no need for that there making a killing from people buying items and such CUT THAT OUT BRO
Aotherea Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 29	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:35:00 - [35] - Quote u can talk with entire team while in a match no probs, friend tried just now. not just squad.
NAV HIV The Generals 151	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:37:00 - [36] - Quote JW v Weingarten wrote: yes. you can still talk in squad voice. but hello we are talking about corp chat. more than 4 people. In SyNergy we are on corp chat all the time. just talking having fun and teaming up. Now only people with aurum can listen to madavos speeches and my beautiful singing. LOL going to have similar issues
NAV HIV The Generals 151	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:37:00 - [37] - Quote Aotherea wrote: Garrett Blacknova wrote: Victor 'LifeLine' Ramous wrote: Its stupid, to create an obstacle for competitive play is quite honestly record breakingly stupid. You do realize that a large portion of players are young and dont have credit cards? And despite being young, every member is valuable, so when you have a few players who are now forced out of the in-game chat it creates rifts both socially AND strategically as thats where a lot of discussions would go on. A game thats meant to be hardcore, then throws a spear into a key part of organized competitive play. Smart. How many other PS3 games have you played where you get voice comms with people you aren't either about to enter battle with, or already fighting alongside? If and when we get the ability to form full teams before a battle, this shouldn't be enough of a problem to prevent players from organising and discussing things, but it will be JUST recognisable enugh to encourage AUR purchases. not a single game gives you ability to talk with your clan out of the match lol i dont think [sarkazm] but drama needs to be made so WE DEMAND FREE VOICE IN MQ NOWWWWWWW [/sarkazm] MAG
Atomic Shiver Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 6	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:37:00 - [38] - Quote ill have to try that thx for heads up
Kain Spero Imperfects Negative-Feedback 896	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:38:00 - [39] - Quote At least if we had a corp armory where we could stash some UVTs and then distribute them to corp mates it wouldn't be a big deal.
Atomic Shiver Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 6	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:40:00 - [40] - Quote word

A-P-P KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 85	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:40:00 - [41] - Quote Piercing Serenity wrote: NAV HIV wrote: Piercing Serenity wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: People..don't let this be a deal breaker. Allow me to remind you guys that this is a free game and not everyone will use AUR. So, if you don't want to wait until a game is queued to talk to your squad...then pay $2 and get 4000 AUR which will give you a UVT for more than 300 years (realtime). We've all paid $60 or more for games that we've played for less than a year plus DLCs. We are getting a game for free with free upates that we intend on playing a long time for. What's $2 worth?? Edit: It will be AUR that will help support this game not pepsi or nike ads I agree. It would be a shame for this new feature to turn someone away from the game. This change only effect large corporations (Smaller corporations will not be hindered by texting in the Corp chat room) and can be quickly solved through Ydubbs' suggestion. Spending two dollars now would guarantee that your great grandchildren would be able to "clan talk". In short, I hope this changes doesn't rub people the wrong way. I don't think it is a fight worth pursuing. Take care, PSN: PiercingSerenity Country: US Class: Assault Corp: Pink.Fluffy.Bunnies. [PFBHz] Allow us to transfer some AUR to corp members so that people without AUR can buy the UVT. This is an excellent suggestion. Corp wallets would be much improved if players could donate ISK or AUR to corporations of thier choosing. This would allow players who won't or can't pay for UVT to still be very active members in their corporation, while still allowing CCP to make money. Nice solution NAV PSN: PiercingSerenity Country: US Class: Assault Corp: Pink.Fluffy.Bunnies. [PFBHz] So because I have a credit card I'm supposed to fund your UVT. No thanks. Maybe for my closest of corp mates but I can guarantee most of them will not accept and will pay their own way. This is the most pay to win thing I've heard. Going into a corp battle will see little to no organization without a UVT with this model People will be all over the place not knowing if they're supposed to be in a squad or not. Out of 20 people which 8 are in the corp battle? Definitely the ones with a working UVT. Oh, you can't afford one? No corp battle for you. Lets have 2 squads ready for a corp battle that takes place in 45 minutes. Can't even talk between squads to coordinate the game until we hit the war barge. It's dumb in so many ways.
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 125	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:46:00 - [42] - Quote its an unnecessary barrier to a social gaming experience. The more people play the more likely people will use arum edit: in fact reminds me of previous builds where everyone just went to Teamspeak.
Django Quik R.I.f.t 219	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:52:00 - [43] - Quote This is really going to dampen the entire social aspect to this game. Fair enough if it was a PC game, where everyone has a keyboard and can type pretty quickly for chat but this is a console and people will find it a major inconvenience to not be able to talk to their corp mates. I never liked the idea of the UVT in the first place. I thought that aurum was only supposed to be for items that could also be gained using isk? Where is the isk UVT?
OgTheEnigma Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 90	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:53:00 - [44] - Quote I still refuse to spend money on a beta. I will most likely buy some stuff for Dust in the future, but not until it's been officially released. Corp chat so far has been pretty fundamental for organising corp battles and to add this new restriction is just anti-competitive. I'd go as far as saying that this just about crosses the pay to win threshold, which CCP have supposedly been adamant that they don't want to do. I hope they see the error of their ways and reinstate this feature.
Jaiden Longshot Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 216	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:54:00 - [45] - Quote At the very least, Corps /Alliances should be able to rent / lease chats with voice on a monthly basis rather than hitting up all individual members for Aurum. This way no one is excluded from being able to chat with their corps / alliances and CCP still gets their $ for the use of the chat server
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 125	Posted - 2012.12.18 16:56:00 - [46] - Quote Jaiden Longshot wrote: At the very least, Corps /Alliances should be able to rent / lease chats with voice on a monthly basis rather than hitting up all individual members for Aurum. This way no one is excluded from being able to chat with their corps / alliances and CCP still gets their $ for the use of the chat server Personally, I think people will just move to teamspeak or other services they already have/ use
Noc Tempre Imperfects Negative-Feedback 1170	Posted - 2012.12.18 17:05:00 - [47] - Quote Free corp chat increases the value of UVT. Good corps will use out of game comms like all the EVE corps. People were actually getting back on EVE voice to talk to us. Now they won't even bother. This decision will COST CCP money, not improve their revenue.
dent 308 Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 966	Posted - 2012.12.18 17:08:00 - [48] - Quote Noc Tempre wrote: Free corp chat increases the value of UVT. Good corps will use out of game comms like all the EVE corps. People were actually getting back on EVE voice to talk to us. Now they won't even bother. This decision will COST CCP money, not improve their revenue. This is all valid. I have never seen people use eve voice before, and over the last few weeks on sisi it was becoming more standardly used.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.18 17:12:00 - [49] - Quote Question Have they changed UVT price yet? I won't be on for hours...
SATORI CORUSCANTi Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 253	Posted - 2012.12.18 17:14:00 - [50] - Quote xAckie wrote: Jaiden Longshot wrote: At the very least, Corps /Alliances should be able to rent / lease chats with voice on a monthly basis rather than hitting up all individual members for Aurum. This way no one is excluded from being able to chat with their corps / alliances and CCP still gets their $ for the use of the chat server Personally, I think people will just move to teamspeak or other services they already have/ use And this is what we did when voice chat didn't work/sucked in this game. It was an inconvenience then, and will be now. This is taking a step in the wrong direction.

OgTheEnigma Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 90	Posted - 2012.12.18 17:20:00 - [51] - Quote xAckie wrote: Jaiden Longshot wrote: At the very least, Corps /Alliances should be able to rent / lease chats with voice on a monthly basis rather than hitting up all individual members for Aurum. This way no one is excluded from being able to chat with their corps / alliances and CCP still gets their $ for the use of the chat server Personally, I think people will just move to teamspeak or other services they already have/ use Not an option for me, my mic only works via bluetooth and my laptop doesn't have a transmitter. I imagine it's much easier for a lot of players to have voice chat work solely through the PS3.
steadyhand amarr Imperfects Negative-Feedback 338	Posted - 2012.12.18 17:33:00 - [52] - Quote Im hopeing this is just an artifact bug that snuck in with the new build their was outrage the first time they tried this im sure they will change it back again its not in ccps intrest to fragment the community
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.12.18 17:59:00 - [53] - Quote UVT = 10AUR So a 30day UVT = 10 AUR which means for 1 year its 120 AUR How many of you spend more AUR on dropsuits and weapons or even on boosters? i
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:02:00 - [54] - Quote Snake those prices are Beta prices. They cost around the same as boosters when they were first introduced (7000ish AUR for a week). Fancy spending 14000 for 2 weeks of voice comms? Nah. Me neither.
Bendtner92 Imperfects Negative-Feedback 369	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:02:00 - [55] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: UVT = 10AUR So a 30day UVT = 10 AUR which means for 1 year its 120 AUR How many of you spend more AUR on dropsuits and weapons or even on boosters? i The price was lowered to 10 AUR so that we could buy them without spending too much AUR. I can't remember their exact price, but they were quite expensive before the price decrease. They'll see a price increase once we move out of beta.
Brush Master HavoK Core 162	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:03:00 - [56] - Quote CCP I stronger recommend restoring the Corporation voice for all until you have a way for either the CEO to pay for an entire channel or have a Corporation vault that allows us to donate to other members.
G Torq ALTA B2O 88	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:07:00 - [57] - Quote Eternal Technique wrote: CCP is essentially forcing players with corps to purchase aurum. This is not right. Makes sense to me; if you want to go corp, to use the avanced features of the game (corp is not required for playing), paying AUR would be right.
SATORI CORUSCANTi Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 253	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:11:00 - [58] - Quote G Torq wrote: Eternal Technique wrote: CCP is essentially forcing players with corps to purchase aurum. This is not right. Makes sense to me; if you want to go corp, to use the avanced features of the game (corp is not required for playing), paying AUR would be right. A corporation may not be required for playing for someone still in the starter corp. Playing with my corp is one of the only things that made this game bearable.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:14:00 - [59] - Quote SATORI CORUSCANTi wrote: Playing with my corp is one of the only things that made this game bearable. amen to that!
Telcontar Dunedain Imperfects Negative-Feedback 328	Posted - 2012.12.18 18:15:00 - [60] - Quote Brush Master wrote: CCP I stronger recommend restoring the Corporation voice for all until you have a way for either the CEO to pay for an entire channel or have a Corporation vault that allows us to donate to other members. Pretty much this. This was a dumb change to put in until paying for an entire corp at once is in game or there is a way to distribute UVT to members. One or both. Otherwise this change should be reverted.



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