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drake sadani
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.22 17:14:00 -
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i have been a noob for some time now . and i saw a video in your video page on your menu . i saw a video of people fighting drones . i thought you know this would be kind of fun . you can practice on non players . develop tactics . earn some side cash . maybe pump your skills up . it would draw more people as well. i love it when i can play a non pvp game and earn money and skills to use in pvp . its fun . you all seem to forget as well thats its open to everyone . if you are upset that you are getting beat by drone farmers go farm some drones and kick there kittens . if you want this to be a game everyone wants to play you cannot make it exclusive to the point that only (HARDCORE EXTREME UBER COMPETITIVE GAMER LEGENDS ) want to or can play it. you want to claim a large chunk of the market . the more people you have the more funds can be put in the game and time can be spent developing it . if you want to chuck a bunch of market chance out because you don't like something the end result will be a half finished abomination
i thought eve players understood business |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
1594
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Posted - 2013.02.22 18:10:00 -
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Eve Online has PVE, but it's the kind of PVE in which any random can just scan you down with probes, warp to you and try to mess with your mission by stealing the loot you desperately need (if they don't try to bait you into shooting them first). As long as the PVE missions in Dust are the same as the PVE missions in Eve, I'm ok with it. |
CLOSEDBETA TSTR-est E3
Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.02.22 20:04:00 -
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the Op may not want it but I do, and so do alot of other people.Its just a matter of having some other stuff to do. |
Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2013.02.22 20:22:00 -
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why was this topic raised from the dead?
are there people that want to limit the game to the mediocrity gun game that it currently is? |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.22 21:19:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Agreed. But.
I definitely want PvE in the long term, I think it has a lot to add to DUST, but i think it's a mistake to add it until the average number of logged-in users climbs.
If you look at the TQ server stats, weekends see a peak of ~60k peeps and weekdays a peak of ~40-45k peeps, modified a bit by sp rollover. Of those peaks, 30-45k are prolly EVE players. Our beta test community is still small, open beta notwithstanding.
I don't think the beta test can afford to have players sucked into PvE right now - with the PvP opposition a new player meets when coming to DUST, the PvE is going to be hard to resist for lots of peeps.
The PvP/PvE balance is going to be one of the hardest things for CCP to accomplish. Sound, creative ideas are called for beta testers - post them here.
For now, my two cents is that CCP needs to polish the mechanics and PvP experience to make it more attractive to new DUST recruits. Make it so they don't have to fight the controls, or get hung up on terrain, curse the hacking bug, get wonky loadouts when switching suits, etc. - Make that PvP experience shine, get more peeps logged onto TQ(150,000 is a nice number), and then look at adding PvE. |
Lonnar
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
15
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Posted - 2013.02.22 21:26:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:We also don't want non stop PVP in this "MMO", we want social areas, gambling and other things, Sorry but I totally agree with PvE elements to this game. This is not a random shooter, it'll cater to many people.
And that, my friend, is the beauty of this game. |
Jakob Evhin
Dead Six Initiative
0
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Posted - 2013.02.22 21:39:00 -
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I think PvE could be an important element in those corporate no show matches or as a means for Dust/Eve players to hold planetary assets in the event that no Dust corp has been hired to protect them. Sentry drones (or something) actiing as a backup to no Dust presence would be pretty cool I think, and would add another layer of depth to how Dust/Eve players would manage planetary defenses whilst still being within the spirit of the game. |
Coleman Gray
Coalition Of Goverments
47
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Posted - 2013.02.22 21:55:00 -
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I understand that you want alot of PvP I love it, I played WoW and leveled a character from stat to finish with just PvP.
But at times I like to be able to play with friends in a chilled game, PvE would be a nice way to break up the grind. |
Israckcatarac
Opus Arcana Orion Empire
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Posted - 2013.02.22 22:50:00 -
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Crm234 wrote:Yes the genre matters or there wouldn't be a genre in the first place and CCP said it in their own words we are trying to create a FPS because we felt creating another Eve was not the best thing for a new frontier.
If they put passive SP in , this game will be the laffing stock of the FPS community . A game that rewards you for not playing it as Yahtzee puts it is a huge mistake. I understand you like it in Eve but stop trying to recreate Eve with different avatars. If all you do is scream Eve to PS3 players it goes in one ear and out the other because no one cares about Eve. Only dust is the main concern of PS3 players and that has been called a FPS.
If you dont like PvP , why are you even in a beta that wants to have galaxy conquering as a major factor of gameplay. Do you think your going to take over a planet by never fighting another player?
SP is a major factor in Dust and if you dont keep it tied to PvP matches you run the risk of FPS players finding that SP is more of a time waster then a Progression through Dust. Like I said before why would you play Pvp and lose fittings plus kdr at a faster rate then just coasting through Pve. All it will do is make a RPG where you Pve till you get all your skills then clan up and do raids defeating the purpose of a FPS.
I would never go to a RPG forum and complain this game is turned base. Or Rant about a RTS and say all we do is harvest materials and build units that auto shoot enemies.
Conquering planets protected by players and drones placed by player's. <----- WoW look what we did there.
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Crm234
Wraith Shadow Guards
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Posted - 2013.02.22 23:14:00 -
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Why are you arguing with a 2.5 month old thread post??? What you should be more worried about is that nothing has changed in Dust in 2.5 months. You know there is a problem when even the Die hard Corps are kinda threw their hands up as well with CCP`s decisions and updates. Plus how am I supposed to rebut your total imaginary part of Dust at the moment because I have played Ambush + Skirmish since August 2012 and yet to see that aspect of the game. |
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usrevenge2
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
64
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Posted - 2013.02.22 23:17:00 -
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shut the hell up PVE is one of the things I want to see, I can play eve, but Eve pve is "lock on, shoot" Dust will actually have aiming, possibly good teamwork as well. |
Crm234
Wraith Shadow Guards
166
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Posted - 2013.02.22 23:24:00 -
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Your getting PVE and we have passive SP the thread is useless, Now when is the biggest question, all this thread is doing is pounding the sand where the dead horse used to be. |
BL4CKST4R
WarRavens
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Posted - 2013.02.23 01:22:00 -
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This is a MMOFPS a MMO without PVE is not an MMO, in the case of this game no PVE means that it's only a FPS. |
Zero Harpuia
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2013.02.23 02:54:00 -
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Dear OP
Shut your goddamn face. As the DEVs have stated time and again, the fact that they are working on X feature doesn't mean ALL OF THEM ARE. It's not like the entire team of developers, programmers, etc are huddled around a computer screen trying to fix the spawning system, and will only move on to another issue once that has been addressed.
Furthermore, your anti-PvE stance would be fine... if you weren't so obsessed with it that you see it as an affront to nature. Some of us don't mind PvE content, and some of us are actually looking forward to it. Speak for your goddamn self when you speak against PvE, and if YOU don't like PvE then YOU can just not participate. |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
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Posted - 2013.02.23 02:56:00 -
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PVE is coming.
Probably in the next build.
Deal with it. |
CODE Breaker93
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.23 03:02:00 -
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Technically pve makes sense, because not all planets are inhabited by mercs. So the natural inhabitants would be npc bots. |
Maken Tosch
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2013.02.23 03:18:00 -
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Guys, it wasn't until after I posted my comment that I realized this thread is just so old that one of us was necroing it. |
trollsroyce
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
165
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Posted - 2013.02.23 03:21:00 -
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PVE in dust:
Stage 1: call in tank, steamroll Stage 2: call in spider tanks, steamroll Stage 3: call in spider tanks, do not stand in fire, steamroll
Collect loot and make tank shinier. Collect tears. |
Vrain Matari
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2013.02.24 19:42:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:Guys, it wasn't until after I posted my comment that I realized this thread is just so old that one of us was necroing it. True, Maken, but the issue is still important and worth discussion, necro'ed thread or not.
If PVE does come in next build i honestly expect the PvE pugs matches to end up with significantly longer wait times. |
Jooki Chewaka
Freek Coalition
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Posted - 2013.02.24 20:21:00 -
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1CLIP 1KILL wrote:Please do not add PvE. I'd much rather have different game modes, sights, customization of weapons, new maps, new weapons, more players in matches, more ammo types for existing weaps, better balancing but not over-nerf, etc., etc., etc.
PvE detracts from skill. More mercs fighting mercs is the way it should be. This game has a risk factor to game play, and PvE makes people feel safe, even if it's "really brutal lol". Mercs should be the ones who destroy another merc's ISK and AUR.
514 is not EVE. If people want PvE in a game, they can play EVE. That's good for CCP because it might make some 514 players play EVE too. The games are connected, but they don't need to be the same.
ps I'd be fine w/some bots to test weaps on. I don't really consider that PvE because it's just for PvP training, and no isk/sp are earned.
Edit: The rest of my posts are on the bottom of this page and on page 3.
http://youtu.be/pWdd6_ZxX8c |
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2013.02.24 20:57:00 -
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Why was this thread not left to die? |
Vaerana Myshtana
ScIdama Endless Renaissance
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Posted - 2013.02.25 00:56:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:If you recall anything PVE related in Eve, random players can scan you down in the star system and interrupt your PVE duh. There are corporations in Eve dedicated to doing just that... usually for the sake of baiting players in the middle of their PVE mission. Would be fun if I see that in DUST.
It is worth noting that CCP has said that PVE will take place using the same districts as PVP, so it might at some point be possible.
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2013.02.25 01:20:00 -
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Not even worth discussion, CCP's not throwing away what's probably months of code to please a select few. They definitely don't do it on Eve (Drake and hurricane nerf) |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
110
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Posted - 2013.02.25 14:37:00 -
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PvP for the real players
PvE to keep the kids/garbage players/codbois off the field.
who cares. they can't handle playing against real humans, they need AI to fight against.
and yet, they still complain that they don't get enough reward from PvE and will start bitching that the rewards for PvE and PvP are equal.
because, y'know, lets face it...
if you gotta play PvE to have fun, you really aren't that good at gaming and prolly shouldn't be playing 514 anyway.
Peace B |
Grief PK
An Eye For An Eye AN EYE F0R AN EYE
13
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Posted - 2013.02.25 15:29:00 -
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Please... CCP you have built a first ... this is new ground in gaming history. I beg you, do not tarnish your original intent by spending resources on adding a PvE aspect to what could be the game that sets the bar for all future MMO/FPS franchises. |
Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2013.02.25 15:49:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:PvP for the real players
PvE to keep the kids/garbage players/codbois off the field.
who cares. they can't handle playing against real humans, they need AI to fight against.
and yet, they still complain that they don't get enough reward from PvE and will start bitching that the rewards for PvE and PvP are equal.
because, y'know, lets face it...
if you gotta play PvE to have fun, you really aren't that good at gaming and prolly shouldn't be playing 514 anyway.
Peace B You.literally just went full ******. First off it's the Cod people QQing about Pve being added. Second they wouldn't be in the beta AT ALL if they didn't want to play against other people. Third how would we even know if it gets rewarded more or less if it's not in the game yet? And last this is suppose to be an MMOfps, yet it's just a fps right now.
Idiot |
Requin Toblat
Terra Rosa Marines
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Posted - 2013.02.25 16:33:00 -
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Crm234 wrote:If they put passive SP in , this game will be the laffing stock of the FPS community . A game that rewards you for not playing it as Yahtzee puts it is a huge mistake. I understand you like it in Eve but stop trying to recreate Eve with different avatars. If all you do is scream Eve to PS3 players it goes in one ear and out the other because no one cares about Eve. Only dust is the main concern of PS3 players and that has been called a FPS.
You do realize that there is passive SP in the game. Just look at your skills page while in your quarters and watch the sp count at the top of the page increase, it is just at a greatly reduced amount compared to the active battle sp |
Tribalfreak Baham
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.02.25 21:34:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:PvP for the real players
PvE to keep the kids/garbage players/codbois off the field.
who cares. they can't handle playing against real humans, they need AI to fight against.
and yet, they still complain that they don't get enough reward from PvE and will start bitching that the rewards for PvE and PvP are equal.
because, y'know, lets face it...
if you gotta play PvE to have fun, you really aren't that good at gaming and prolly shouldn't be playing 514 anyway.
Peace B
The fail in this one broke records. The devs would be moronic to ignore the fact that some people don't like PVP. the more diverse the game, the more people will play, the more people that play, the more MONEY they could get. |
BASSMEANT
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
110
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Posted - 2013.02.25 22:08:00 -
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like i said, pve for the kids, pvp for the real players.
CODbois agianst PvE?
you mean the same folks from the same game where you fight the zombies??????????
swwwwwwwwwwing and a miss!
naw man, you guys always do this:
"wow, this game is so hard! i can't play against real people and feel good! i need some ai bots to play against otherwise, well... i just can't level up! thanks for the AI bots!!"
Peace B |
Buster Friently
Rosen Association
26
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Posted - 2013.02.25 22:32:00 -
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BASSMEANT wrote:like i said, pve for the kids, pvp for the real players.
CODbois agianst PvE?
you mean the same folks from the same game where you fight the zombies??????????
swwwwwwwwwwing and a miss!
naw man, you guys always do this:
"wow, this game is so hard! i can't play against real people and feel good! i need some ai bots to play against otherwise, well... i just can't level up! thanks for the AI bots!!"
Peace B
Maybe different people enjoy different things?
I guess you'll have to at least hit puberty before you might realize the truth in that.
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