The current system is random with little input from battle, we knew this already. It's a placeholder for the real system.

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In eve loot and salvage were two different things, why not wait to see more of plan before complaining?

Reread the devblog and notice that they describe the FUTURE system. There is no mention of looting your enemies.

Read forward from """Once complete, the full system will..."""

So, nobody else is freaking out about the "light assault rifle"?

I don't understand what everyone is complaining about. Your team get more ISK by winning a match against a team with more expensive gear, right? The difference between getting parts of their gear and then sell it anyway isn't that big.

We like making you feel bad bro.

It would be nice if the drops you got are primarily from the mercs you killed,

But you don't fight alone. It's not oneToOne. Every mercs in your team directly on inderectly affect how much red dots you kill.

lol be funny watching you all using a salavager on a dead body which may take a few cycles to get the gd stuff then get shot

TBH im fine with the pot luck simply because you aint gonna get everything from everyone you killed and be damed if the game will remeber that crap for each person in each battle

This random loot is the best idea tbh and its pot luck anyways, sure id love to get tanks that i killed as my tanks but tough **** tbh and my fit costs me 2.3mil so i need it alot more than a bunch of suits that i get but either way current system is fine

Having the pool restricted to actual loot on the field would drive you out of pubstomping hisec matches.

You wouldn't bring your 2.3m tank out if all you got was trash militia gear.

You are the reason the system needs to change.

Sure i would

System is fine

Be funny if all one side comes out in proto gear, other side in milita basically farming the otherside out of proto items

Are you really gonna stand ther for a 1min and use a salvager on a dead body to get loot? corse not your 'pro' and thats DUSTs way of mining for noobs to do

This randoms loot is the best way tbh because the game aint going to remeber who you killed and what you will get just for 1 person then go and times that by a 1000players and then again if we have 10000 players and so on

Plus the bodies burn up after death and not all mods survive this end so you cant pick and choose you get what your given

Totally get what you're saying Telc, half the scrubs on this forum seem to be dumbasses.

Heres how I always envisioned how salvage was going to work.

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This would all be split between the winning team based on WP, with Salvage modules possibly adding more of a chance to gain random items from a seperate loot pool.

So we have a Player Loot pool and then you have a loot pool that adds random things in that are varied on how much was destroyed, what Salvage modules both teams had. This is where Officer Weapons, skill books and other things would come in. Perhap bumping it up so it's like a 1/40 chance for anything to actually come from that pool.

So when they use a loot system where everything comes from players who die...

...how are we supposed to collect Officer weapons that nobody has access to except by looting them?

I like the idea of a certain PORTION of the loot being the gear your opponents used, or at the very least having any vehicles you hacked come into your loot collection after the battle, but beyond maybe a small portion of "this is what you killed" gear, I like the current system.

officer weapons could always be salvage in eve. that way they would still be available to mercs through the market.

I am playing this game to kill you AND take your stuff.

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2012/12/11/dust-514-war-and-profit/

In this devblog we find out that we won't get stuff from our kills but instead it's going to continue to be some lame randomized World of Warcraft NPC loot table.

A game is either a loot game or it isn't.

Eve is a loot game. Dust514 isn't.

To clarify -

1. This devblog is describing a FUTURE system that doesn't include real looting. The temporary system in place is being made permanent. Reread the devblog.

If this isn't balanced into the game SOON it won't be patched in. ISK payouts are balanced against all the current gear (that people actually want) being destroyed. What we get now is random trash that you don't even need 95% of the time.

2. I don't think we should actually have to run around and loot, that would be irritating. Just that the loot pool should come from the people you killed not from some magic random pool. The losers of the match get no salvage.

3. Having real loot would do good things for the game.
It would make experienced players to leave hisec to go find other geared people to kill.
It would give a sense of -real- reward for fighting hard against people with expensive gear.
If someone tries to push Dust mercs out of territory with bad players wearing proto/AUR gear, it will actually HELP the winning side, as it should.
It would make some actual sense where the loot was coming from :P

4. We shouldn't be getting Officer loot from killing people in militia gear. We need some other methods/reasons that the Officer stuff comes into the game. Temporarily adding them to the random loot pool should be only temporary.

this is bull... and another example of why console players really don't know what the f they are doing:

you "LOOT" somthing as an action:
i killed you.
i walk to your dead avatar
i hit the "Loot" button
i get your stuff.

THAT is mmo. THAT is looting.

this salvage crap?
just some random crap assigned to you by the game itself as sort of a "well whatever, it was here, i guess you can have it" is not mmo. it's not looting and should never have been adverted as such, which im not gonna go searching to find but i know damn well has been done.

all this chopping up crap based on stats is for the friggin birds.

if you can't be killed while you are looting something, it's not looting.

and this is yet another reason why 514 is not what it was claimed to be. it's not an mmo. it's just a persistant fps.

why they won't actually commit to the ideas that they originally put in place is beyond me.

but this salvage crap is just crap. codboi crap at that.

Peace
B

headshot damage = high slot modules
upper body (stomach and up) shot damage = low slot modules and weapons
lower body (hips and below) shot damage = equipment and grenades

A = Shield repair
B = Assault Riffle
C = Armor plate

playerA = A,B,C

playerB hits playerA with 75 damage (head)
playerC hits playerA with 25 (head)

(the damage is also used as their % chance to win possible loot)

looters = playerB, playerC

FOR EACH item IN playerA
item.damage = damage recieved in area

if item.damage < 70 (this is the variable CCP deams fair to being broken beyond repair)
looters.winner = (do calculation for item assigning)
item.lootable = true
item.looter = looters.winner
end if
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