"This system is temporary, and serves as a stepping stone towards final implementation, which should prove far more robust and enjoyable."

Well fine if you guys arent happy then I am more than happy to have all officer weapons and modules deleted you don't need them to randomly drop.

It's fine the way it is. I'm not spending 5 minutes after a game going to pick sh*t up. Also, random drops encourage spreading out and usign SP in different areas. If everyone just dropped GEK's or Duvolles, the game would suck.

Why is it always imperfects the first to start posting their displeasure about anything?

so wait...you want to stop in the middle of a firefight to loot a corpse...in an fps?


CCP I agree we should let this happen, I could use the free kills to pad my score.

"game-breakingly bad", don't be a drama queen.

I hope they implement this so we can all see you whine when all you get is militia assault rifles off the opposing team.

The current system is random with little input from battle, we knew this already. It's a placeholder for the real system.

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In eve loot and salvage were two different things, why not wait to see more of plan before complaining?

lol be funny watching you all using a salavager on a dead body which may take a few cycles to get the gd stuff then get shot

TBH im fine with the pot luck simply because you aint gonna get everything from everyone you killed and be damed if the game will remeber that crap for each person in each battle

This random loot is the best idea tbh and its pot luck anyways, sure id love to get tanks that i killed as my tanks but tough **** tbh and my fit costs me 2.3mil so i need it alot more than a bunch of suits that i get but either way current system is fine

Sure i would

System is fine

Be funny if all one side comes out in proto gear, other side in milita basically farming the otherside out of proto items

Are you really gonna stand ther for a 1min and use a salvager on a dead body to get loot? corse not your 'pro' and thats DUSTs way of mining for noobs to do

This randoms loot is the best way tbh because the game aint going to remeber who you killed and what you will get just for 1 person then go and times that by a 1000players and then again if we have 10000 players and so on

Plus the bodies burn up after death and not all mods survive this end so you cant pick and choose you get what your given

Totally get what you're saying Telc, half the scrubs on this forum seem to be dumbasses.

Heres how I always envisioned how salvage was going to work.

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This would all be split between the winning team based on WP, with Salvage modules possibly adding more of a chance to gain random items from a seperate loot pool.

So we have a Player Loot pool and then you have a loot pool that adds random things in that are varied on how much was destroyed, what Salvage modules both teams had. This is where Officer Weapons, skill books and other things would come in. Perhap bumping it up so it's like a 1/40 chance for anything to actually come from that pool.

I would prefer a system that hands out items based on the individual kill not on the team as a whole:

damage at certain points of the body affect the damage on the potential drop items:


from here the player is then assigned the item fairly.

This means those who did absolutely nothing the whole match or simply wasn't involved in the kill can not reap the rewards from your efforts. Something that would really **** me off if my forge gun kills downed vehicles.

well that does leave it open to people who attend and don't do anything, a couple of times I've gone afk a whole match (accident sometimes, sometimes not), It just doesn't sit well that someone who had no role in me downing the enemy gets my loot. in other mmo games, only those involved get to roll.

< forger gunner. means I would get vehicle loot. But I do get the odd infantry kill too ;) ;)

It will always be random anyways, the bodies burn up mods are lost and you get what you get, it barely a change from the current system we already have which is fine except it needs tweeking so we get all mods dropsuit and vehicle mods

While some things I agree would be nice like the loot table being generated from the enemy deaths I keep in my mind that the more complex a mechanic is something somewhere else must be made less complex since we are playing a console game not a PC based game like eve. The hardware limitations mean we all may have our wish list but we must remember the developers must allocate resources especially with what is soon last Gen hardware. So for me I can think of at least a dozen other areas where I would rather see hardware resources and developer time spent before launch, like maybe the number of players in a match or squad size or graphics enhancements rather than loot tables derived from reality.

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Oh and since this thread is so important to the success of dust and therefore CCP I think it should be stickied and then a rule added to the forum rules that everyone should read this thread before posting any new threads of their own. I swear the success of dust and CCP absolutely depends on everyone reading this thread!

My edit is ALMOST as melodramatic as your thread title. :)

"the current loot system is a temporary stepping stone to what we'll get in future. of course it's not perfect, but it's better than nothing"

it's not a loot system.
jesus.


and the solution is simple:

if i kill you, and i get to your corpse in time and i "hit x to loot" and i don't get killed, then i get what you had in your kit at the time and you lose that gear from your inventory, permanently.

that's looting.

anything else is just console milk for the veal.

no i don't expect this game to be finished right now.

i do expect this game to be what they hyped it to be back way back before the betas started.

which it is not.

Peace
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I could be wrong but you quoting wikipedia for how much memory you THINK this would take leads me to the safe assumption you have never programmed before.

they do, however the current system is there merely to test if loot disrobution works and is not the final system.

read what you just wrote, "Once Complete" it's not complete, it's not the full final system