Can you make a team have a role

Like team A has to be AV, team B logi etc

Or is it hire the 10teams and you have no control over them

The biggest problem you will face is after capturing to hold a planet. Which means you would require a minimum of 160 players to capture a planet and atleast 320 to hold to it. Zerg alliances dont count as zergs will be beaten easily. There is only one alliance at this point in time that can put up quality numbers to the best of my knowledge.

This came up in discussion with a nullsec buddy and though it would be interesting to ask the community. "If you were a nullsec alliance attacking a planet what 10 teams would you pick?" Its 200 mill isk reward for a district win and 100 mill isk loss if you lose a district battle.

So there you have it what are your 10 teams? (imperfects can field 2 teams if we are included in your list)

For this question lets keep it simple and pick corps. Though if i really really had to i would probably do that and mix in corps to make the best teams. Since many corps have different strengths and weakness

it's the kind of question where ask "I wonder who would ally with my corp" and where the eve politics style of play comes in. when we get friendly fire there's going to be a lot of "bad blood" because regnum ran over darkcloud or adski "accidentally" put a nade on cazaderon 3 times etc etc. be interesting to see I guess :)

but I don't think it's going to come to "we can't get enough players to hold this" a few of these corps will swollow their pride and merge the most active / promising players to take it all.

my concern is how much of the player pool will be taken up by a few corporations so a 1:1 corp battle over a planet will be required by launch and how many players will actually be playing.

to answer the question though I would just look at the tournament results. maybe include stb but that's it.

I dont think i could pick 10 tbh, i would end up with having less than 10 atm

Well if its 16v16 my list would be this:

3 teams of Imperfects
1 team of Pink.Fluffy.Bunnies
1 team of Synergy
1 team of What the French
1 team of SI
1 team of Tritan
1 team of Rift
1 team of Zion

In that order.

It based off how many skilled players each corp can field as a team and their solo skill each player possesses.

0.0? I'd hire whoever is green. Which by the time we get to 0.0 will be very few. OB records might be a factor if said null sec entity has been blasting people off their planets from space...
Tbh, even factional war will depend greatly on who is red and who is blue. Yeah, stating the obvious I know, but really, would you hire people you've spent 1-2 years fighting already, just because it's 0.0?

I have a dozen cages of differently enabled monkeys, I pick them.

Better question for you imperfects. Were you to need to hire 10 corps to attack on your behalf because you are tied up with other engagements, who would it be? Omni has already offered up his opinion. REgNum is an acceptable answer.

we work for nullsec alliances its first come first to pay us isk. We have no desire to hold planets or sov so will never have to hire corps on our behalf. To follow on to that we are going to let nullsec alliances worry about getting enough teams/corps to take a planet we are just going to focus on the districts we are paid to take.

this was more of a general question to get dust centric corps to see the big picture and realize what a small part of new eden the beta community really is

it's the kind of question where ask "I wonder who would ally with my corp" and where the eve politics style of play comes in. when we get friendly fire there's going to be a lot of "bad blood" because regnum ran over darkcloud or adski "accidentally" put a nade on cazaderon 3 times etc etc. be interesting to see I guess :)

but I don't think it's going to come to "we can't get enough players to hold this" a few of these corps will swollow their pride and merge the most active / promising players to take it all.

my concern is how much of the player pool will be taken up by a few corporations so a 1:1 corp battle over a planet will be required by launch and how many players will actually be playing.

to answer the question though I would just look at the tournament results. maybe include stb but that's it.

we work for nullsec alliances its first come first to pay us isk. We have no desire to hold planets or sov so will never have to hire corps on our behalf. To follow on to that we are going to let nullsec alliances worry about getting enough teams/corps to take a planet we are just going to focus on the districts we are paid to take.

this was more of a general question to get dust centric corps to see the big picture and realize what a small part of new eden the beta community really is

Isn't enough information from the beta about this yet.

Yeah, corps like the imperfects are good in a tiny scenario like we fight in now- but what about when they actually have to use real strategy and organisation?

I'll wait tell the game is out to choose because you all suck so far

yeah we all suck but your not even in a real corporation meaning that you either suck or nobody want you

I wish I had members....

FYI: Nullsec alliances (the corps in particular that have a use for mercs) will probably organize their own teams in-game and not hire others that often.

At least that's how I see it going...

In NO ORDER, these are the 8 corps who have their crap together the most in my playing experience. .
Crime Wave (Gem Cutter belongs to you guys right? What a sniper, can't even find him half of the time... Sorry if I am wrong about the affiliation. Even if Gem Cutter ain't one of you guys, I like when you're Blue...)

You miss the point of the question. "Hire 10 merc teams/corps to take a planet for you". If you read the question at all you would know this. So answer the question and stop being a ******* idiot about it

1 Imperfects
1 Lotis (Overlord picked me I think so I have to reward him since I've seen these guys a lot)
1 SI
1 Synergy
1 Quebec guys (QC are always fun to run into in pub matches)
1 Pink fluffy bunnies
1 Zion
1 WTF (Haven't seen them in a while)
1 Team Alldin
1 Hellstorm (Decent corp and a challange but I'd hope they wouldn't back out)

Of course I'd have Overlord Ulath as the alliance leader since he seems like a genius.

Simple, only one team is required for the job: Imperfects.

we work for nullsec alliances its first come first to pay us isk. We have no desire to hold planets or sov so will never have to hire corps on our behalf. To follow on to that we are going to let nullsec alliances worry about getting enough teams/corps to take a planet we are just going to focus on the districts we are paid to take.

this was more of a general question to get dust centric corps to see the big picture and realize what a small part of new eden the beta community really is

to much thought put into that. Just pick 10 teams to win the planet. They aren't mixed teams and aren't working for each other. They are under cotnract from nullsec alliance.

so if people like/dont like each other its irrelevant. its a merc contract they get paid to do their job and thats it.

lots of twaddle

Someone get this kid away from the keyboard before he hurts himself on the sharp edges, eh?

Parenting these days, sheesh.

Can we get some form of qualification behind your choices and ranking here?

I would like to see the processes of contextualization and rationalization of your choices. Just giving a list of names without the thought process behind it is a bit soulless and heartless. It is as pure of a form of dispossessed objectification I have seen for a while.

I apologise now if i spell your name/corp name wrong

1 squad Synergy Gaming = came across some very competent HAV users

Can we get some form of qualification behind your choices and ranking here?

I would like to see the processes of contextualization and rationalization of your choices. Just giving a list of names without the thought process behind it is a bit soulless and heartless. It is as pure of a form of dispossessed objectification I have seen for a while.

Pick as many as you can.

I cant keep it simple because each set of corps are different and are able to do everything or certain things well but il have crack at it

So in no particular order tbh so dont cry if your number 7 it doesnt mean a thing, also dont cry if you dont like my opinion

1. Imperfects - Winners of the dodgy beta tourny, can groundpound and tank, tactically sound and can do everything - TBH i really dont run into them that much so i can really only comment from the beta tourny and what i do see now n again

2. SI - Runners up in dodgy beta tourny, have mulitiple members who are a 'jack of all trades' but also members who are more dedicated to a specific role, basically can also do everything - Face everyday tbh so i know what they can do

3. Syn - Some tank drivers, some ground ppl, some AV, a mixed bag dont see too much of but overall can do everything and use armor tanks which are a rare thing tbh

4. PFB - Groundpound from what i see and are good at it, no tanks or AV i have seen but too small numbers wise

5. WTF - Groundpound also majority of the time like PFB, 1 tanker and 1 AV guy out of basic that ive seen, i would prob merge WTF and PFB tbh and move that tanker and AV guy to somehwere more useful surrounded by other likeminded guys

6. Zion - Maybe for the zerg rush and to fill in the gaps, they do try and have various ppl in different roles


Clan wise thats about it tbh

Ther is a few clans i have missed out because they are mainly useless as a whole, a few members maybe good enough to pull out and put with other clans or likeminded ppl

But i would prefer to mix the clans a little bit and have all tankers together supporting each other and the same with AV and logis etc but really would need a mixed bag with proper support and hope that each clan can do it themselves and also able to work with each other

But its all hypothetical anyways so dont get ya panties in a bunch

EDIT: I would like the abilty to remove certain memebers aswell if i could, so for example i may have in an extra clan if i could remove the idiots

1 Squad Redstar = nothing mindblowing but amazing team work

I beg to differ there is nothing mind blowing about Red Star.

I want to know when Kazeno will have to put a signature under all his posts like Jason Pearson did, or does Kazeno speak for all of SI?

Well My 10 teams would be.

Me with ultra damage blaster sagaris.
LAZ with triple rep gunnloggi
Then LAZ behind LAZ with Triple Rep gunlogi.
Then LAZ behind LAZ again with triple rep gunlogi

Basically the chain of immortals. :)

Then I would go with the Zitro brothers
Enigma
Paran

They would build all 10 teams.

If you have questions about the immortal tank of doom well maybe one day you will get to see it when me and laz are in a game together. Or when slap is abusing poor LAZ for his triple rep tank.

Remember LAZ I am all loving and caring to you slap is abusive. :)

I don't claim to speak for my corp, but i do own speaking for myself and speaking against unnecessary abuse from trolls on these forums. I will not be putting a sig below my name. My corp mates have know about my out spoken nature for some time and seem to enjoy it.

What I am know for is the fact that I have ZERO tolerance for douche bags and douche baggery. Much like the editing of what it was I said. That would be like being a politician. Another thumbs up to the imps.

Who are you again???

oh wait that team that got 3-0 in the finals...ohhhhhhhh.... YEAH

I can give them all a reason later, I didn't rank them in any order since some corps are really close and I'm probably a little biased towards some.

Edit: Not really sure why you are complaining though, every corp I picked was a top corp I saw in the tourny or a top corp I saw when I play solo. I'll probably update my list in about 12hrs, I do like having a reason for my choices.

In the end, that tourney was good for us. AV and vehicles dedicated members are planned now ^^

In the end, that tourney was good for us. AV and vehicles dedicated members are planned now ^^

Absolutely. It was a great learning experience. Good luck on the next one WTF. It was good fun.

Who are you again???

oh wait that team that got 3-0 in the finals...ohhhhhhhh.... YEAH

that line of thinking will get alliances in trouble. I have been in nullsec for 6 years now and hear that a lot. At the same time i know lots of eve players playing dust and most of them are just average fps players. Thats okay its not their thing though. they can do pve and hisec play and enjoy dust.

nullsec will be so vast that nullsec alliances will be able to get away with average players much of the time. Put them up against an elite corp and they will be destroyed. Space ships above the planet aren't going to make any difference at that point.

in the end it all comes down to the cost/reward of planets and thats anyones guess now

Well My 10 teams would be.

Me with ultra damage blaster sagaris.
LAZ with triple rep gunnloggi
Then LAZ behind LAZ with Triple Rep gunlogi.
Then LAZ behind LAZ again with triple rep gunlogi

Basically the chain of immortals. :)

Then I would go with the Zitro brothers
Enigma
Paran

They would build all 10 teams.

If you have questions about the immortal tank of doom well maybe one day you will get to see it when me and laz are in a game together. Or when slap is abusing poor LAZ for his triple rep tank.

Remember LAZ I am all loving and caring to you slap is abusive. :)

what? we use real tatics and strats in corp battles. public is framing isk and sp and normaly every scrub for himself.

You use small-scale tactics.
Figuring out who should go where and do what is completely different in massive areas from the places we fight now.

What you do now obviously is very effective in taking control of a small area, but it may prove to be too inefficient for large scale-

I'm talking about sending scouts off to watch for enemy squads, figuring out what soldiers you want a dropship to take where, what areas you need to fortify and how, etc.
In small areas, you barely need to worry about this.

I don't see imperfects struggling with such matters. If you've seen them play, they know there roles and how to use them to there best abilities. That normally translates well. Sun Tzu once said that commanding an army is like commanding a squad, just larger. The small matters of scouting and such you describes probably won't be an element in this game. especially when fighters get added. They can just fly over an area and let the groundies know what they saw. If they spec into radar or w/e the mod is to increase profile scanning, they could be way more effective then scouts.

We still haven't seen a REAL battle for a planet yet though, have we?

I've already seen some crutches that the imperfects lean on, and we'll see if they notice them too.

If they don't find these, I know how to exploit that in a large-scale battle with the new toys we get in the future.

The biggest problem you will face is after capturing to hold a planet. Which means you would require a minimum of 160 players to capture a planet and atleast 320 to hold to it. Zerg alliances dont count as zergs will be beaten easily. There is only one alliance at this point in time that can put up quality numbers to the best of my knowledge.

Guess that means Goons are out since they are the greatest Zerg alliance of all time. You should never underestimate groups they can rally mass amounts of opponents to a battle in short order. In the case of the CFC (Goons coalition for those that do not know) they throw their masses against targets and drain their will to resist with relative ease.

couple things we dont know yet and one is how would null even work for DUST
thing ppl seem to forget is if the game relies solely on who has more numbers then nullsec wont be populated much with dust corps.

Winning solely based on numbers in a fps is not appealing to clans.

2nd thing is i wonder is ur statement about throwing masses against targets to drain their will to resist with relative ease. Would that apply too much to a fps? idk

take IMP for example they cant get corp battles, hell we have been gettin probs with them as well, u toss ur corp in masses at them ur just feeding them what they want...........fights. Especially since we dont know how reinforcement timers and the whole "i wanna attack all districts at once and win off numbers" scenario will play out in DUST , CCP might very well have it setup similar to what Omni posted in a thread a while back and smaller corps might be able to run a gauntlet and defend their districts against a full attack.

Too much we dont know about how things gonna work which is the reason im not even gonna scratch my head assuming anything about DUST nullsec till we reach that crossing.

Can I choose the individual mercs in the first 5 squads?

If so, here's my go at it.

Team 1: Imperfects.
1. ReGnUM
2. Omnipotens Zitro
3. Blondie Roads
4. Reaper (I don't recall the numbers at the end of his name)

Team 2: L.O.T.I.S

1. rebel scum22
2. Night7Mare
3. D Roc
4. Tech Ohm Eaven

Team 3: Crimewave

1. Gem Cutter
1,2,4: Anyone from his corp that Gem Cutter want's to back him up (seriously, dude is insanely good)

Team 4: Zion

1. Grimmers
2. Cross Atu
3. oOCrazyOo
4. Weezer

Team 5: Imperfects

1. Noc Tempre
2. G-Slick
3. Paran Tadec
4. Ludwig Van Beatdropin

After that, I'd go with a squad of Betamax of their choosing, a squad from SI of their choosing, a squad of Time Reversal, a squad of STB, and a squad of Hellstorm.

By the way bud WEEZER is in the Rebelles@Quebec corp and he never been in anything else.

Can I choose the individual mercs in the first 5 squads?

If so, here's my go at it.

Team 1: Imperfects.
1. ReGnUM
2. Omnipotens Zitro
3. Blondie Roads
4. Reaper (I don't recall the numbers at the end of his name)

Team 2: L.O.T.I.S

1. rebel scum22
2. Night7Mare
3. D Roc
4. Tech Ohm Eaven

Team 3: Crimewave

1. Gem Cutter
1,2,4: Anyone from his corp that Gem Cutter want's to back him up (seriously, dude is insanely good)

Team 4: Zion

1. Grimmers
2. Cross Atu
3. oOCrazyOo
4. Weezer

Team 5: Imperfects

1. Noc Tempre
2. G-Slick
3. Paran Tadec
4. Ludwig Van Beatdropin

After that, I'd go with a squad of Betamax of their choosing, a squad from SI of their choosing, a squad of Time Reversal, a squad of STB, and a squad of Hellstorm.

Hellstorm does corp battles?

Call me anti social but I don't like the personalities of a lot of corps. I like the relaxed and non uptight guys so I'd put toghether
A team of Crimewave for support and AV (they really hate vehicles :p) and planetary response for assault.

Obviously PRO tbh. I mean, PRO was only beat 1/1 by IMPs in the tourney and those scrubs over at SyNergy Gaming got beat 3/3 times, so that obv makes PRO much better and at least decent.

Hmm? I'm not saying anyone is better here I was just saying i personally like those two corps. My opinion obviously.

Nice post from our diplo lifeline. keep up the good work

BTW For those that do not know (so pretty much every one outside of SyNergy) I am Creep. So, just call me Creep. Jarlaxle is a temp. name.