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ECHO PACK
Wraith Shadow Guards
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Posted - 2012.11.28 01:30:00 -
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if possible in a update can blueplint dropsuits for higher tier be available in the store for AUR |
shade emry3
Conspiratus Immortalis
18
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Posted - 2012.11.28 02:30:00 -
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ECHO PACK wrote:if possible in a update can blueplint dropsuits for higher tier be available in the store for AUR
They just let out a Caldari and amarr variant. |
Free Beers
Internal Error. Negative-Feedback
1041
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Posted - 2012.11.28 02:39:00 -
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ECHO PACK wrote:if possible in a update can blueplint dropsuits for higher tier be available in the store for AUR
We have seen standard suits to this point I don't think they should make higher when it comes to bpo because they are forever. I am cool with aur for a monthly rental packs that include using higher tier suits but nothing perm |
Encharrion
L.O.T.I.S. Legacy Rising
104
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Posted - 2012.11.28 09:14:00 -
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I strongly disagree, the whole point of higher tier suits is that they are strong but require high maintenance to continue running them, a bpo for AUR would simply be broken and furthermore p2win. I'm not sure about the rental idea but I don't agree with the time period specified, I would prefer day long rentals, with maybe 3 day long rentals at most. |
Jason Pearson
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
742
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Posted - 2012.11.28 10:18:00 -
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No thank you. |
HERCULEZE
Neanderthal Nation
8
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Posted - 2012.11.28 10:28:00 -
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I agree with the above, it becomes too pay2win if we are running anything higher than a Tech 1 BPO. I would love to see some basic weapon BPO's (apart from millitia). |
Laurent Cazaderon
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
1155
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Posted - 2012.11.28 11:18:00 -
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ECHO PACK wrote:if possible in a update can blueplint dropsuits for higher tier be available in the store for AUR
If you're asking for BPOs then this suggestion is wrong in every way. |
R F Gyro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
315
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Posted - 2012.11.28 11:59:00 -
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I'd love to have prototype BPOs.
I don't want anyone else to have them.
Guess that means I don't support their existence, sorry. -1 |
KEROSIINI-TERO
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
248
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Posted - 2012.11.28 12:38:00 -
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-1 because there ought to be some cost in having higher performance. |
Doktor Worm
BetaMax.
8
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Posted - 2012.11.28 13:32:00 -
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I suspect you will get improved dropsuit BPOs from faction warfare/salvage at some point. However agree that anything above Tech 1 is going to break the game at this point, by making it pay to win. |
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Martin0 Brancaleone
Maphia Clan Corporation CRONOS.
191
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Posted - 2012.11.28 16:36:00 -
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That would be pay to win. No thanks. |
Nicol Bolas Planeswalker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.11.28 16:55:00 -
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I'm not a huge fan of this for reasons stated by everyone else here. Keep in mind however that high cost protogear is meaningful only if you are not playing eve. I fully intend to start playing eve only to mine isk. I will always run protogear. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.11.28 17:23:00 -
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ECHO PACK wrote:if possible in a update can blueplint dropsuits for higher tier be available in the store for AUR
I like the idea. Dropsuits do need modules and they cost a lot of money. So this way its not pay2win. |
Nicol Bolas Planeswalker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.11.28 18:01:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:ECHO PACK wrote:if possible in a update can blueplint dropsuits for higher tier be available in the store for AUR I like the idea. Dropsuits do need modules and they cost a lot of money. So this way its not pay2win.
The problem with this is that you'll have BPO suits running more BPO modules, and so were back to the same problem. High end Aur BPO is essentially pay to win, but any corporation with isk to burn equates this anyways. I've heard EVE capsuleers can easily mine crazy amounts of isk in proportion to the cost of our equipment. The issue here is that casual gamers or those who are not willing to invest in aur, or an eve account, are at a noticible disadvantage. I imagine CCP wants to keep dust accessible to everyone, otherwise they'll have a F2P game with a limited number of players. Doesn't sound exactly profitable. |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.11.28 18:06:00 -
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Nicol Bolas Planeswalker wrote:The problem with this is that you'll have BPO suits running more BPO modules, and so were back to the same problem. High end Aur BPO is essentially pay to win, but any corporation with isk to burn equates this anyways. I've heard EVE capsuleers can easily mine crazy amounts of isk in proportion to the cost of our equipment. The issue here is that casual gamers or those who are not willing to invest in aur, or an eve account, are at a noticible disadvantage. I imagine CCP wants to keep dust accessible to everyone, otherwise they'll have a F2P game with a limited number of players. Doesn't sound exactly profitable.
True dude. But militia BPO modules are an absolute waste for most part. There are pros and cons to everything. I just like the idea of higher tier BPOs and dont mind spending even 200000 AUR for those. Having higher end suits doent not guarantee wins too.
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Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.11.28 18:10:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Nicol Bolas Planeswalker wrote:The problem with this is that you'll have BPO suits running more BPO modules, and so were back to the same problem. High end Aur BPO is essentially pay to win, but any corporation with isk to burn equates this anyways. I've heard EVE capsuleers can easily mine crazy amounts of isk in proportion to the cost of our equipment. The issue here is that casual gamers or those who are not willing to invest in aur, or an eve account, are at a noticible disadvantage. I imagine CCP wants to keep dust accessible to everyone, otherwise they'll have a F2P game with a limited number of players. Doesn't sound exactly profitable. True dude. But militia BPO modules are an absolute waste for most part. There are pros and cons to everything. I just like the idea of higher tier BPOs and dont mind spending even 200000 AUR for those. Having higher end suits doent not guarantee wins too.
Just buy the aur version of whatever item you're after. When you've managed to spend 200k AUR then just buy some more. It's like a BPO that scales to how much you actually use! Awesome! |
Sentient Archon
Red Star.
690
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Posted - 2012.11.28 18:27:00 -
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Noc Tempre wrote:Just buy the aur version of whatever item you're after. When you've managed to spend 200k AUR then just buy some more. It's like a BPO that scales to how much you actually use! Awesome!
Dude I have spent over 240000 AUR so far on dropsuips and AUR mods. It runs out pretty fast when you are getting OHKed by dropships in the air lol. You should know |
Noc Tempre
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1170
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Posted - 2012.11.28 18:36:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:Noc Tempre wrote:Just buy the aur version of whatever item you're after. When you've managed to spend 200k AUR then just buy some more. It's like a BPO that scales to how much you actually use! Awesome! Dude I have spent over 240000 AUR so far on dropsuips and AUR mods. It runs out pretty fast when you are getting OHKed by dropships in the air lol. You should know
So what more do you want? BPO is an awful idea unless you expect the game to only last a few months. We've been in closed beta longer than some games have goon from boom to bust. Think more long term. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.11.28 19:27:00 -
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I like the idea of AUR priced BPOs being more widely available but only for Meta 1 and Militia level gear. To introduce upper Meta BPOs would damage the over all balance and quality of the game moving it dangerously close to (if not outright into) 'pay to win' territory. The higher the Meta Level of the gear in question (suit, vehicle or mod) the more damage to the overall game it does.
Dust comprises a war between immortals where control of resources, rather than death, provides the true gain. And were loss of resources, rather than kills, are how one truly wounds an enemy. Remove the risk of losing those suits, mods, vehicles et al while still allowing someone to field the best gear and you cut the heart out of both balance and fun within D514.
0.02 ISK Cross |
Nicol Bolas Planeswalker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
102
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Posted - 2012.11.28 21:57:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:I like the idea of AUR priced BPOs being more widely available but only for Meta 1 and Militia level gear. To introduce upper Meta BPOs would damage the over all balance and quality of the game moving it dangerously close to (if not outright into) 'pay to win' territory. The higher the Meta Level of the gear in question (suit, vehicle or mod) the more damage to the overall game it does.
Dust comprises a war between immortals where control of resources, rather than death, provides the true gain. And were loss of resources, rather than kills, are how one truly wounds an enemy. Remove the risk of losing those suits, mods, vehicles et al while still allowing someone to field the best gear and you cut the heart out of both balance and fun within D514.
0.02 ISK Cross
This is true, but how do we combat rich eve players financing dust corps? I intend to start playing eve so I can spam proto gear. This is in effect the same as upper tier BPO. |
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HECATONCHIRES COTTUS
Doomheim
14
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Posted - 2012.11.28 22:27:00 -
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Encharrion wrote:I strongly disagree, the whole point of higher tier suits is that they are strong but require high maintenance to continue running them, a bpo for AUR would simply be broken and furthermore p2win. I'm not sure about the rental idea but I don't agree with the time period specified, I would prefer day long rentals, with maybe 3 day long rentals at most.
So I rent it for 1 day and hit my cap and dont need it till next week....lol makes sense.(sarcasm)
There will be BPO vko-1-2-3 etc, and there will be people who by them. That will determine your commitment to the game and will be a transaction made between CCP and its paying customers.If you choose to be a non paying customer than your input on the matter is invalid.
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Necrodermis
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
460
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Posted - 2012.11.28 22:32:00 -
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Free Beers wrote: We have seen standard suits to this point I don't think they should make higher when it comes to bpo because they are forever. I am cool with aur for a monthly rental packs that include using higher tier suits but nothing perm
they shouldn't have bpo higher than standard for anything, all it does is create stagnation. |
HECATONCHIRES COTTUS
Doomheim
14
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Posted - 2012.11.28 22:35:00 -
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Sentient Archon wrote:ECHO PACK wrote:if possible in a update can blueplint dropsuits for higher tier be available in the store for AUR I like the idea. Dropsuits do need modules and they cost a lot of money. So this way its not pay2win. All higher tier suits already have the same HP without paying for modules.Agreed not pay 2 win.Higher suit, more modules .....more expensive suit.
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HECATONCHIRES COTTUS
Doomheim
14
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Posted - 2012.11.28 22:39:00 -
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Necrodermis wrote:Free Beers wrote: We have seen standard suits to this point I don't think they should make higher when it comes to bpo because they are forever. I am cool with aur for a monthly rental packs that include using higher tier suits but nothing perm
they shouldn't have bpo higher than standard for anything, all it does is create stagnation.
LOL ....no we Goons wouldnt want the PS3 user to be able to fight off the ISK equipped hoards of assshats we will be equipping once we can do transfers and we are on the same server...no no no WE CANT HAVE THAT......lol
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
3064
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Posted - 2012.11.28 22:40:00 -
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Higher tier stuff is for high risk high reward. With BPOs there is no financial risk, so it would be no risk high reward. I am against this idea because of this. |
HECATONCHIRES COTTUS
Doomheim
14
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Posted - 2012.11.28 22:45:00 -
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Nicol Bolas Planeswalker wrote:I'm not a huge fan of this for reasons stated by everyone else here. Keep in mind however that high cost protogear is meaningful only if you are not playing eve. I fully intend to start playing eve only to mine isk. I will always run protogear.
TRANSLATION: blah blah blah...blah blah bblah blah.I will be PAYING a SUBSCRIPTION so I can mine to make ISK .So I can do transfers, and always rock PROTO gear.
lol pay2 win |
HECATONCHIRES COTTUS
Doomheim
14
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Posted - 2012.11.28 22:48:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Higher tier stuff is for high risk high reward. With BPOs there is no financial risk, so it would be no risk high reward. I am against this idea because of this.
Do you mean like redline snipers wearing Dragonflies and using MLT sniper rifle BPO'S?(sarcasm) |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.11.29 02:01:00 -
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ECHO PACK wrote:if possible in a update can blueplint dropsuits for higher tier be available in the store for AUR This just isn't a good idea. You should never be able to have an unlimited number of any suit above militia grade, and I'd personally be happier if even those had a cost associate with them. Using higher tier gear should have risk associated with it. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.11.29 02:09:00 -
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Nicol Bolas Planeswalker wrote:Cross Atu wrote:I like the idea of AUR priced BPOs being more widely available but only for Meta 1 and Militia level gear. To introduce upper Meta BPOs would damage the over all balance and quality of the game moving it dangerously close to (if not outright into) 'pay to win' territory. The higher the Meta Level of the gear in question (suit, vehicle or mod) the more damage to the overall game it does.
Dust comprises a war between immortals where control of resources, rather than death, provides the true gain. And were loss of resources, rather than kills, are how one truly wounds an enemy. Remove the risk of losing those suits, mods, vehicles et al while still allowing someone to field the best gear and you cut the heart out of both balance and fun within D514.
0.02 ISK Cross This is true, but how do we combat rich eve players financing dust corps? I intend to start playing eve so I can spam proto gear. This is in effect the same as upper tier BPO.
CCP has said for a long time that they intend to place constraints of some kind (the idea of a tax has been floated) on currency transfers between games so as to limit that type of problem. They've not yet released the specific details but have reiterated time and again that while Dust and EVE will eventually have fully integrated economies, they plan to take that process very slowly to ensure balance.
All that being said I think there's a very simple change which would mitigate much of the EVE/Dust currency imbalance. Just shift the decimal point a place or two. If all ISK rewards and costs where higher it would change nothing for the D514 side of things but it would reduce the impact EVE ISK could have on Dust.
Normalize (doesn't have to be totally equivalent, there are other factors like production, transport, expend-ability and resources required for production all to consider when creating a cost baseline) the effective value of the currency within both games and things should be reasonably stable. Because at that point while you'd still gain an advantage by playing an EVE character it would be more commensurate with the additional player time spent working towards goals within New Eden and that retains internal balance (for a pure Dust side example, all of us who play in the beta will have advantages due to our player time invested at live launch even though there will be a rest. Another Dust example would be playing three characters in the same Corp and sharing ISK/gear between them).
Cheers, Cross
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Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.11.29 02:15:00 -
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Cross Atu wrote:Nicol Bolas Planeswalker wrote:Cross Atu wrote:I like the idea of AUR priced BPOs being more widely available but only for Meta 1 and Militia level gear. To introduce upper Meta BPOs would damage the over all balance and quality of the game moving it dangerously close to (if not outright into) 'pay to win' territory. The higher the Meta Level of the gear in question (suit, vehicle or mod) the more damage to the overall game it does.
Dust comprises a war between immortals where control of resources, rather than death, provides the true gain. And were loss of resources, rather than kills, are how one truly wounds an enemy. Remove the risk of losing those suits, mods, vehicles et al while still allowing someone to field the best gear and you cut the heart out of both balance and fun within D514.
0.02 ISK Cross This is true, but how do we combat rich eve players financing dust corps? I intend to start playing eve so I can spam proto gear. This is in effect the same as upper tier BPO. CCP has said for a long time that they intend to place constraints of some kind (the idea of a tax has been floated) on currency transfers between games so as to limit that type of problem. They've not yet released the specific details but have reiterated time and again that while Dust and EVE will eventually have fully integrated economies, they plan to take that process very slowly to ensure balance. All that being said I think there's a very simple change which would mitigate much of the EVE/Dust currency imbalance. Just shift the decimal point a place or two. If all ISK rewards and costs where higher it would change nothing for the D514 side of things but it would reduce the impact EVE ISK could have on Dust. Normalize (doesn't have to be totally equivalent, there are other factors like production, transport, expend-ability and resources required for production all to consider when creating a cost baseline) the effective value of the currency within both games and things should be reasonably stable. Because at that point while you'd still gain an advantage by playing an EVE character it would be more commensurate with the additional player time spent working towards goals within New Eden and that retains internal balance (for a pure Dust side example, all of us who play in the beta will have advantages due to our player time invested at live launch even though there will be a rest. Another Dust example would be playing three characters in the same Corp and sharing ISK/gear between them). Cheers, Cross ^This.
Again. Stop panicking. Also, no on is arguing a lack of higher tier MT items pursuant to some cockamimie conspiracy to dominate the game. You're going to have a hard time getting people to take you seriously if you keep up that train. |
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.11.29 02:21:00 -
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Every person in this thread that does NOT think this is a good idea is a jobless mothers basement dweller.IMO lol.Just sayin. And has enough time on there hands during the day to AFK mine on EVE to pay for endless amounts of VK Protos with complex modules.Others of us with "responsibilities"(like jobs) do not have the luxury to do that.
Also when the market opens up to the PS3 user and I can buy PLEX to exchange into ISK.....tell me who is gonna work for who?I already know where and who will give me the best exchange rate for conversion and current market value.So your lame attempts to stop this from occurring in the future will be circumvented.I too will buy proto with ISK,or with AUR.This stops nothing.CCP could just cut out the middle man.
My grandpa used to say "There is always,more than one way, to skin a cat." |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.11.29 02:31:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Every person in this thread that does NOT think this is a good idea is a jobless mothers basement dweller.IMO lol.Just sayin. And has enough time on there hands during the day to AFK mine on EVE to pay for endless amounts of VK Protos with complex modules.Others of us with "responsibilities"(like jobs) do not have the luxury to do that.
Also when the market opens up to the PS3 user and I can buy PLEX to exchange into ISK.....tell me who is gonna work for who?I already know where and who will give me the best exchange rate for conversion and current market value.So your lame attempts to stop this from occurring in the future will be circumvented.I too will buy proto with ISK,or with AUR.This stops nothing.CCP could just cut out the middle man.
My grandpa used to say "There is always,more than one way, to skin a cat." Far from the first time I've heard that phrase, but if you have the money to spend, why not just buy enough AURUM to keep buying them that way? You're effectively just asking for a way to make the game cheaper for yourself.
Look, bigger than all of this is what both CCP nothin and Nullarbor have said on multiple occasions: the more free, unlimited assets you try and have available within a player driven economy, the more problems you're going to cause. I mean, they even made the rookie ships available for ISK now, instead of only being given out for free. |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.11.29 02:48:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Every person in this thread that does NOT think this is a good idea is a jobless mothers basement dweller.IMO lol.Just sayin. And has enough time on there hands during the day to AFK mine on EVE to pay for endless amounts of VK Protos with complex modules.Others of us with "responsibilities"(like jobs) do not have the luxury to do that.
Also when the market opens up to the PS3 user and I can buy PLEX to exchange into ISK.....tell me who is gonna work for who?I already know where and who will give me the best exchange rate for conversion and current market value.So your lame attempts to stop this from occurring in the future will be circumvented.I too will buy proto with ISK,or with AUR.This stops nothing.CCP could just cut out the middle man.
My grandpa used to say "There is always,more than one way, to skin a cat." Far from the first time I've heard that phrase, but if you have the money to spend, why not just buy enough AURUM to keep buying them that way? You're effectively just asking for a way to make the game cheaper for yourself. Look, bigger than all of this is what both CCP nothin and Nullarbor have said on multiple occasions: the more free, unlimited assets you try and have available within a player driven economy, the more problems you're going to cause. I mean, they even made the rookie ships available for ISK now, instead of only being given out for free.
Your argument is biased by the fact that you play EVE and you have assets over there.With an ALT.What YOU are saying is that the PS3 player/operator is supposed to be a slave to a PC gamer..... Doesnt matter the verbiage you use Mobius me and you have argued many points in the forums.I have a 17 yr old kid who cuts my grass and shovels my side walk.He told me he plays EVE.He said he would transfer 1 Billion ISK to me a week for 20 bucks.Current market value is 611,528,822.06 so hes giving me a deal......hes a cool kid.But there goes the idea of a DUST Merc or "Dust bunny" as EVE players like to refer to us as.Being your minion or servants,pets.Right out the window. |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.11.29 02:55:00 -
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one more thing .Im all for a map or game mode that would be a militia only area where everyone had to wear only militia that might be fun,hell I bet it would be.But we are talking about New EDEN and fairness has never factored in anywhere ever in that equation.Especially when it comes to 0.0 |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.11.29 03:10:00 -
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And I'm as broke in EVE as I am in this game because I only PvP in EVE. My Dust character is never going to be rolling full-Proto. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.11.29 03:11:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Every person in this thread that does NOT think this is a good idea is a jobless mothers basement dweller.IMO lol.Just sayin. And has enough time on there hands during the day to AFK mine on EVE to pay for endless amounts of VK Protos with complex modules.Others of us with "responsibilities"(like jobs) do not have the luxury to do that.
Also when the market opens up to the PS3 user and I can buy PLEX to exchange into ISK.....tell me who is gonna work for who?I already know where and who will give me the best exchange rate for conversion and current market value.So your lame attempts to stop this from occurring in the future will be circumvented.I too will buy proto with ISK,or with AUR.This stops nothing.CCP could just cut out the middle man.
My grandpa used to say "There is always,more than one way, to skin a cat."
Your above reasoning seems to lack a certain internal cohesion, some examples.
First Paragraph You state that those opposed to this idea must be jobless, and playing EVE (~$15 USD per month) You equate the ability to take AFK actions with lots of free time spent in game (Away From Keyboard) You conclude your first paragraph by stating that those with jobs don't have the "luxury" to engage in these actions (how does having a job prevent one from either taking AFK actions or paying the required month subscription for EVE?)
Second Paragraph You state that when the full player market is enabled you'll be able to use PLEX to effectively achieve the same result you're asking for (paying IRL cash to ensure you're fully stocked with gear) and then go on to reiterate that the presence or lack there of, of your suggestion in the OP "stops nothing". You state you will buy proto with ISK or with AUR (something you can essentially do within the CODEX build as it stands).
I do agree with your grandfather tho, and since there's more than one way, and at least one is already present why concern yourself with debating in a forum thread over being able to do something you can, by your own reasoning, already do? Unless a feature of your job responsibilities is the ability to "afk forum post"
A few quick closing notes on the actual mechanical implications of the OP. 1 year subscription to EVE Online - $131.40 USD (including discount) -- Resulting direct ISK gain or savings = 0.00 ISK Purchasing 3 Copies of every BPO in Dust - <$60 USD -- Resulting direct ISK gain or savings = Unlimited free Meta 1 dropsuit fittings for the entirety of D514
Both of these things also include the opportunity to earn (and lose) ISK, notable difference currently include, the EVE subscription having a higher likely ISK per Week earning, and the Dust "subscription" being 100% free without expiration.
In the current system maintenance of ones supply of gear requires action, either earning ISK through in game means (be that EVE or Dust) or buying AUR through out of game means (in this case the action is maintaining your stream of revenue). It is also possible to hybridize these two methods in any proportions a player sees fit (provided the requisite action threshold is met).
The addition of top Meta BPOs removes the action requirement, replacing it with a "fire and forget" style mechanic whereby through use of (fairly minimal) out of game currency a user would be able to sidestep the majority of key in game consequences for choices and action. In a single player game what you're proposing amounts to enabling a cheat code. In an MMO environment it is the very essence of pay to win.
So since (as I've just outlined) the change would be damaging to the game, and since (as you assert in your quoted post) you'll be able to do what you want to do within the current iteration. We can all draw this thread to a close knowing that the current build suits each of us, at least in regards to this singular issue.
0.02 ISK Cross |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.11.29 03:21:00 -
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Militia and Standard BPOs scale with your skills, so they already end up pretty powerful compared to a new player.
But you still have to spend ISK (or AUR) every time if you want something better than that.
Working as intended, and adding blueprint versions of anything higher would be a VERY BAD idea. |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.11.29 03:33:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:Militia and Standard BPOs scale with your skills, so they already end up pretty powerful compared to a new player.
But you still have to spend ISK (or AUR) every time if you want something better than that.
Working as intended, and adding blueprint versions of anything higher would be a VERY BAD idea. Agreed. |
HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.11.29 04:09:00 -
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Im tired.I have to be at work by 5am tomorrow.Any way s befor ethe forums swallowed my post.You can already buy Proto Relic Drop suits and the other 2 as well.Making a BPO is the same thing as the ones currently available for AUR its just a one time buy is all.I dont know how much theyll cost and ill probably wait to see if the first one that is ever made available gets nerfed if not I'll buy 1. |
Reimus Klinsman
BetaMax.
320
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Posted - 2012.11.29 04:11:00 -
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If you mean BPOs, absolutely not. This game is based on risk Vs reward. You take out the risk to fight, then theres no reward. |
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2012.11.29 04:22:00 -
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This isn't gonna happen so you may as well give up and start grinding high sec carebear |
Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
1216
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Posted - 2012.11.29 04:34:00 -
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Vermaak Doe wrote:This isn't gonna happen so you may as well give up and start grinding high sec carebear ^This. |
angelarch
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
93
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Posted - 2012.11.29 04:41:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Higher tier stuff is for high risk high reward. With BPOs there is no financial risk, so it would be no risk high reward. I am against this idea because of this.
^this.
BPO's shouldn't be allowed for anything above standard quality imo.
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Vermaak Doe
SVER True Blood Unclaimed.
385
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Posted - 2012.11.29 04:42:00 -
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And just because I'm an Eve player...
I HAVE IT ALL AND YOU HAVE NOTHING! SO DANCE SLAVE,DANCE! NOW WEEP AS I RIDE OFF THROUGH THE STARS IN MY 200 MIL ISK SHIP oops i just died. I'LL JUST BUY ANOTHER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! |
Reimus Klinsman
BetaMax.
320
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Posted - 2012.11.29 04:44:00 -
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I really think that free stuff shouldn't be allowed for anything aside from militia. Including the tourny rewards. |
Garrett Blacknova
Codex Troopers
1849
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Posted - 2012.11.29 05:26:00 -
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Im tired.I have to be at work by 5am tomorrow.Any way s befor ethe forums swallowed my post.You can already buy Proto Relic Drop suits and the other 2 as well.Making a BPO is the same thing as the ones currently available for AUR its just a one time buy is all.I dont know how much theyll cost and ill probably wait to see if the first one that is ever made available gets nerfed if not I'll buy 1. "Making a BPO is the same thing as the ones currently available for AUR its just a one time buy is all."
THAT'S EXACTLY WHY IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA.
One-time purchases should ONLY be cheap junk or a half-step above that level. Quality gear should ALWAYS have a cost per use involved. |
Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
775
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Posted - 2012.11.29 05:28:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:Im tired.I have to be at work by 5am tomorrow.Any way s befor ethe forums swallowed my post.You can already buy Proto Relic Drop suits and the other 2 as well.Making a BPO is the same thing as the ones currently available for AUR its just a one time buy is all.I dont know how much theyll cost and ill probably wait to see if the first one that is ever made available gets nerfed if not I'll buy 1. "Making a BPO is the same thing as the ones currently available for AUR its just a one time buy is all." THAT'S EXACTLY WHY IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA. One-time purchases should ONLY be cheap junk or a half-step above that level. Quality gear should ALWAYS have a cost per use involved. ^This. /end of line |
angelarch
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
93
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Posted - 2012.11.29 06:51:00 -
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/end of Rine!
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HECATONCHIRES GYGES
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
151
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Posted - 2012.11.29 21:29:00 -
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Vermack Doe there is someone scary...wooo its the "negative boy" LOL forum warrior
Ill put it like this"you scared bro? |
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