DUST Search - blueprint dropsuits for higher tier armor

Mobius Wyvern wrote:

HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote:

Every person in this thread that does NOT think this is a good idea is a jobless mothers basement dweller.IMO lol.Just sayin.
And has enough time on there hands during the day to AFK mine on EVE to pay for endless amounts of VK Protos with complex modules.Others of us with "responsibilities"(like jobs) do not have the luxury to do that.

Also when the market opens up to the PS3 user and I can buy PLEX to exchange into ISK.....tell me who is gonna work for who?I already know where and who will give me the best exchange rate for conversion and current market value.So your lame attempts to stop this from occurring in the future will be circumvented.I too will buy proto with ISK,or with AUR.This stops nothing.CCP could just cut out the middle man.

My grandpa used to say "There is always,more than one way, to skin a cat."

Far from the first time I've heard that phrase, but if you have the money to spend, why not just buy enough AURUM to keep buying them that way? You're effectively just asking for a way to make the game cheaper for yourself.

Look, bigger than all of this is what both CCP nothin and Nullarbor have said on multiple occasions: the more free, unlimited assets you try and have available within a player driven economy, the more problems you're going to cause. I mean, they even made the rookie ships available for ISK now, instead of only being given out for free.

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HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.11.29 02:21:00 - [31] - Quote Every person in this thread that does NOT think this is a good idea is a jobless mothers basement dweller.IMO lol.Just sayin. And has enough time on there hands during the day to AFK mine on EVE to pay for endless amounts of VK Protos with complex modules.Others of us with "responsibilities"(like jobs) do not have the luxury to do that. Also when the market opens up to the PS3 user and I can buy PLEX to exchange into ISK.....tell me who is gonna work for who?I already know where and who will give me the best exchange rate for conversion and current market value.So your lame attempts to stop this from occurring in the future will be circumvented.I too will buy proto with ISK,or with AUR.This stops nothing.CCP could just cut out the middle man. My grandpa used to say "There is always,more than one way, to skin a cat."
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.11.29 02:31:00 - [32] - Quote HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote: Every person in this thread that does NOT think this is a good idea is a jobless mothers basement dweller.IMO lol.Just sayin. And has enough time on there hands during the day to AFK mine on EVE to pay for endless amounts of VK Protos with complex modules.Others of us with "responsibilities"(like jobs) do not have the luxury to do that. Also when the market opens up to the PS3 user and I can buy PLEX to exchange into ISK.....tell me who is gonna work for who?I already know where and who will give me the best exchange rate for conversion and current market value.So your lame attempts to stop this from occurring in the future will be circumvented.I too will buy proto with ISK,or with AUR.This stops nothing.CCP could just cut out the middle man. My grandpa used to say "There is always,more than one way, to skin a cat." Far from the first time I've heard that phrase, but if you have the money to spend, why not just buy enough AURUM to keep buying them that way? You're effectively just asking for a way to make the game cheaper for yourself. Look, bigger than all of this is what both CCP nothin and Nullarbor have said on multiple occasions: the more free, unlimited assets you try and have available within a player driven economy, the more problems you're going to cause. I mean, they even made the rookie ships available for ISK now, instead of only being given out for free.
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.11.29 02:48:00 - [33] - Quote Mobius Wyvern wrote: HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote: Every person in this thread that does NOT think this is a good idea is a jobless mothers basement dweller.IMO lol.Just sayin. And has enough time on there hands during the day to AFK mine on EVE to pay for endless amounts of VK Protos with complex modules.Others of us with "responsibilities"(like jobs) do not have the luxury to do that. Also when the market opens up to the PS3 user and I can buy PLEX to exchange into ISK.....tell me who is gonna work for who?I already know where and who will give me the best exchange rate for conversion and current market value.So your lame attempts to stop this from occurring in the future will be circumvented.I too will buy proto with ISK,or with AUR.This stops nothing.CCP could just cut out the middle man. My grandpa used to say "There is always,more than one way, to skin a cat." Far from the first time I've heard that phrase, but if you have the money to spend, why not just buy enough AURUM to keep buying them that way? You're effectively just asking for a way to make the game cheaper for yourself. Look, bigger than all of this is what both CCP nothin and Nullarbor have said on multiple occasions: the more free, unlimited assets you try and have available within a player driven economy, the more problems you're going to cause. I mean, they even made the rookie ships available for ISK now, instead of only being given out for free. Your argument is biased by the fact that you play EVE and you have assets over there.With an ALT.What YOU are saying is that the PS3 player/operator is supposed to be a slave to a PC gamer..... Doesnt matter the verbiage you use Mobius me and you have argued many points in the forums.I have a 17 yr old kid who cuts my grass and shovels my side walk.He told me he plays EVE.He said he would transfer 1 Billion ISK to me a week for 20 bucks.Current market value is 611,528,822.06 so hes giving me a deal......hes a cool kid.But there goes the idea of a DUST Merc or "Dust bunny" as EVE players like to refer to us as.Being your minion or servants,pets.Right out the window.
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.11.29 02:55:00 - [34] - Quote one more thing .Im all for a map or game mode that would be a militia only area where everyone had to wear only militia that might be fun,hell I bet it would be.But we are talking about New EDEN and fairness has never factored in anywhere ever in that equation.Especially when it comes to 0.0
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.11.29 03:10:00 - [35] - Quote And I'm as broke in EVE as I am in this game because I only PvP in EVE. My Dust character is never going to be rolling full-Proto.
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis 775	Posted - 2012.11.29 03:11:00 - [36] - Quote HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote: Every person in this thread that does NOT think this is a good idea is a jobless mothers basement dweller.IMO lol.Just sayin. And has enough time on there hands during the day to AFK mine on EVE to pay for endless amounts of VK Protos with complex modules.Others of us with "responsibilities"(like jobs) do not have the luxury to do that. Also when the market opens up to the PS3 user and I can buy PLEX to exchange into ISK.....tell me who is gonna work for who?I already know where and who will give me the best exchange rate for conversion and current market value.So your lame attempts to stop this from occurring in the future will be circumvented.I too will buy proto with ISK,or with AUR.This stops nothing.CCP could just cut out the middle man. My grandpa used to say "There is always,more than one way, to skin a cat." Your above reasoning seems to lack a certain internal cohesion, some examples. First Paragraph You state that those opposed to this idea must be jobless, and playing EVE (~$15 USD per month) You equate the ability to take AFK actions with lots of free time spent in game (Away From Keyboard) You conclude your first paragraph by stating that those with jobs don't have the "luxury" to engage in these actions (how does having a job prevent one from either taking AFK actions or paying the required month subscription for EVE?) Second Paragraph You state that when the full player market is enabled you'll be able to use PLEX to effectively achieve the same result you're asking for (paying IRL cash to ensure you're fully stocked with gear) and then go on to reiterate that the presence or lack there of, of your suggestion in the OP "stops nothing". You state you will buy proto with ISK or with AUR (something you can essentially do within the CODEX build as it stands). I do agree with your grandfather tho, and since there's more than one way, and at least one is already present why concern yourself with debating in a forum thread over being able to do something you can, by your own reasoning, already do? Unless a feature of your job responsibilities is the ability to "afk forum post" A few quick closing notes on the actual mechanical implications of the OP. 1 year subscription to EVE Online - $131.40 USD (including discount) -- Resulting direct ISK gain or savings = 0.00 ISK Purchasing 3 Copies of every BPO in Dust - <$60 USD -- Resulting direct ISK gain or savings = Unlimited free Meta 1 dropsuit fittings for the entirety of D514 Both of these things also include the opportunity to earn (and lose) ISK, notable difference currently include, the EVE subscription having a higher likely ISK per Week earning, and the Dust "subscription" being 100% free without expiration. In the current system maintenance of ones supply of gear requires action, either earning ISK through in game means (be that EVE or Dust) or buying AUR through out of game means (in this case the action is maintaining your stream of revenue). It is also possible to hybridize these two methods in any proportions a player sees fit (provided the requisite action threshold is met). The addition of top Meta BPOs removes the action requirement, replacing it with a "fire and forget" style mechanic whereby through use of (fairly minimal) out of game currency a user would be able to sidestep the majority of key in game consequences for choices and action. In a single player game what you're proposing amounts to enabling a cheat code. In an MMO environment it is the very essence of pay to win. So since (as I've just outlined) the change would be damaging to the game, and since (as you assert in your quoted post) you'll be able to do what you want to do within the current iteration. We can all draw this thread to a close knowing that the current build suits each of us, at least in regards to this singular issue. 0.02 ISK Cross
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.29 03:21:00 - [37] - Quote Militia and Standard BPOs scale with your skills, so they already end up pretty powerful compared to a new player. But you still have to spend ISK (or AUR) every time if you want something better than that. Working as intended, and adding blueprint versions of anything higher would be a VERY BAD idea.
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.11.29 03:33:00 - [38] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: Militia and Standard BPOs scale with your skills, so they already end up pretty powerful compared to a new player. But you still have to spend ISK (or AUR) every time if you want something better than that. Working as intended, and adding blueprint versions of anything higher would be a VERY BAD idea. Agreed.
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.11.29 04:09:00 - [39] - Quote Im tired.I have to be at work by 5am tomorrow.Any way s befor ethe forums swallowed my post.You can already buy Proto Relic Drop suits and the other 2 as well.Making a BPO is the same thing as the ones currently available for AUR its just a one time buy is all.I dont know how much theyll cost and ill probably wait to see if the first one that is ever made available gets nerfed if not I'll buy 1.
Reimus Klinsman BetaMax. 320	Posted - 2012.11.29 04:11:00 - [40] - Quote If you mean BPOs, absolutely not. This game is based on risk Vs reward. You take out the risk to fight, then theres no reward.

Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 385	Posted - 2012.11.29 04:22:00 - [41] - Quote This isn't gonna happen so you may as well give up and start grinding high sec carebear
Mobius Wyvern BetaMax. 1216	Posted - 2012.11.29 04:34:00 - [42] - Quote Vermaak Doe wrote: This isn't gonna happen so you may as well give up and start grinding high sec carebear ^This.
angelarch Algintal Core Gallente Federation 93	Posted - 2012.11.29 04:41:00 - [43] - Quote KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote: Higher tier stuff is for high risk high reward. With BPOs there is no financial risk, so it would be no risk high reward. I am against this idea because of this. ^this. BPO's shouldn't be allowed for anything above standard quality imo.
Vermaak Doe SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 385	Posted - 2012.11.29 04:42:00 - [44] - Quote And just because I'm an Eve player... I HAVE IT ALL AND YOU HAVE NOTHING! SO DANCE SLAVE,DANCE! NOW WEEP AS I RIDE OFF THROUGH THE STARS IN MY 200 MIL ISK SHIP oops i just died. I'LL JUST BUY ANOTHER HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Reimus Klinsman BetaMax. 320	Posted - 2012.11.29 04:44:00 - [45] - Quote I really think that free stuff shouldn't be allowed for anything aside from militia. Including the tourny rewards.
Garrett Blacknova Codex Troopers 1849	Posted - 2012.11.29 05:26:00 - [46] - Quote HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote: Im tired.I have to be at work by 5am tomorrow.Any way s befor ethe forums swallowed my post.You can already buy Proto Relic Drop suits and the other 2 as well.Making a BPO is the same thing as the ones currently available for AUR its just a one time buy is all.I dont know how much theyll cost and ill probably wait to see if the first one that is ever made available gets nerfed if not I'll buy 1. "Making a BPO is the same thing as the ones currently available for AUR its just a one time buy is all." THAT'S EXACTLY WHY IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA. One-time purchases should ONLY be cheap junk or a half-step above that level. Quality gear should ALWAYS have a cost per use involved.
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis 775	Posted - 2012.11.29 05:28:00 - [47] - Quote Garrett Blacknova wrote: HECATONCHIRES GYGES wrote: Im tired.I have to be at work by 5am tomorrow.Any way s befor ethe forums swallowed my post.You can already buy Proto Relic Drop suits and the other 2 as well.Making a BPO is the same thing as the ones currently available for AUR its just a one time buy is all.I dont know how much theyll cost and ill probably wait to see if the first one that is ever made available gets nerfed if not I'll buy 1. "Making a BPO is the same thing as the ones currently available for AUR its just a one time buy is all." THAT'S EXACTLY WHY IT'S A TERRIBLE IDEA. One-time purchases should ONLY be cheap junk or a half-step above that level. Quality gear should ALWAYS have a cost per use involved. ^This. /end of line
angelarch Algintal Core Gallente Federation 93	Posted - 2012.11.29 06:51:00 - [48] - Quote /end of Rine!
HECATONCHIRES GYGES Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 151	Posted - 2012.11.29 21:29:00 - [49] - Quote Vermack Doe there is someone scary...wooo its the "negative boy" LOL forum warrior Ill put it like this"you scared bro?


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