Fire whoever suggested dispersion as a good way to balance any weapon.

Im telling you, for the sake of balance and for what it does its a great way. Rate of fire it moderate, damage is moderate. It has a blast radius, and before you could shoot a turd between a flys buttcheeks with it. But now it just has lower splash damage and not so accurate. Still kill **** you just cant sit in the red zone and kill ****.

Im telling you, for the sake of balance and for what it does its a great way. Rate of fire it moderate, damage is moderate. It has a blast radius, and before you could shoot a turd between a flys buttcheeks with it. But now it just has lower splash damage and not so accurate. Still kill **** you just cant sit in the red zone and kill ****.

Expect some weapons to be harder to control. Remember, some of us use mouse+kb and have ability to keep reticle where-ever they want most of the time. Combo that with the most powerful weapons and you
a) make weaker weapons obsolete
b) create a new point'n'click deathdealer.

It's now a chance weapon. They still one-shot heavies on a direct hit, but you better have voodoo magic to do it reliably at more than 20m. Blasters go out to 200m and will kill heavies in under a second.

This is a very bad direction for the game. Hence the strong reaction. I know this is their first shooter, but this is basics they are screwing with.

Fire whoever suggested dispersion as a good way to balance any weapon. Someone in the brainstorm threw this idea out. You know who it was CCP. They shouldn't touch a shooter again in their career.

How bout this as a fix for small missile turrets.give them low damage and low splash range(small turret) but have them fire multiple (small) missiles rapidly, kinda like a missile pod on a helicopter. Then have a reload time after every 3rd or 4th volley. Now let the skill decrease the spread. Thoughts?

Dispersion is a massive part of how Shotguns are balanced.

Dispersion is something many players have asked for (and will continue to ask for) as a way to balance ARs better.

Dispersion is only a problem for Large Missile Turrets because it came with a massive nerf to splash radius and damage and range. Drop the nerf to radius, and Large Missile Turrets become a mid-range crowd-control/area denial weapon and retain a reasonable amount of effectiveness in close range.

AR's need recoil not dispersion. As said above by Noc - don't **** with where my shots go.

Dispersion is a massive part of how Shotguns are balanced.

Dispersion is something many players have asked for (and will continue to ask for) as a way to balance ARs better.

Dispersion is only a problem for Large Missile Turrets because it came with a massive nerf to splash radius and damage and range. Drop the nerf to radius, and Large Missile Turrets become a mid-range crowd-control/area denial weapon and retain a reasonable amount of effectiveness in close range.

ARs are fine tbqh

Haven't played a lot, But what everyone is crying about is they can't use a missiles now? So one weapon don't dominate now?

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Railguns are better at Anti-Infantry than Missiles.

They nerfed Missiles?!

WTF!?!?!

They didn't JUST nerf them, they also made them unreliable.

Expect some weapons to be harder to control.

"1.03" should never be used frivolously. That number should only be reserved for the most catastrophic of changes.

this is one of the most useless, overzealous uses of 1.03 i've ever seen.

talk about the BOY who cried wolf. FACT: this game is still in beta being tuned. shameless, look-at-me post if i've ever seen one. saddest part is that 1.03 patch was overrated and constantly used by the "cool kids" when it did very little. want proof? people who could shoot STILL dominated gunbattles...elite skill STILL WON OUT. so now what? if 1.03 killed your aim you probably didnt have much to begin with.

if you whine about every bullet not going in one hole while your jumping, strafing and drop-shotting you're probably an idiot.

tank mechanics were too dominant. they needed to be addressed. this isnt the final fix as we're STILL IN BETA. No mature player will ever support unbalanced mechanics just because they benefit from them. 12 year olds do that.

GROW UP.

i think i see now, Dispersion should be removed from everything so HMG, AR, SP, SMG, all fire 100% on the dot from the hip. Then its all skill oriented so nobody can qq about weapon missing. and CCP can map something else to the ADS button


"complete sarcasam"

No dispersion in game means EVERY weapon has the SAME accuracy, every weapon has same accuracy then game is DEFINATELY broken. I think everyone can see the problems with that.

this is one of the most useless, overzealous uses of 1.03 i've ever seen.

talk about the BOY who cried wolf. FACT: this game is still in beta being tuned. shameless, look-at-me post if i've ever seen one. saddest part is that 1.03 patch was overrated and constantly referenced by the "cool kids" when it did very little. want proof? people who could shoot STILL dominated gunbattles...elite skill STILL WON OUT. so now what? if 1.03 killed your aim you probably didnt have much to begin with.

if you whine about every bullet not going in one hole while your jumping, strafing and drop-shotting you're probably an idiot.

tank mechanics were too dominant. they needed to be addressed. this isnt the final fix as we're STILL IN BETA. No mature player will ever support unbalanced mechanics just because they benefit from them. 12 year olds do that.

GROW UP.

Dispersion seems a necessary evil.

Recoil would be the obvious counter point, but how does recoil carry over to the Keyboard+Mouse users?

Wow full of immature lies. Here's some fact checking: 1.03 did kill MAG. I've been posting to nerf the turrets since before E3. Dispersion is a bad mechanic.

This didn't fix the missile turrets. They still one shot things. It just made those insta-gibs independent of the ability to aim. When CCP continues to make bad calls, that can be identified in less than 5 minutes, someone is not doing their job correctly. It's that simple. Nerfing splash was excellent. Nerfing radius was understandable. Adding dispersion was unacceptable. In combination it made them chance weapons, which is plain broken.

So despite your presumed arrogance from the stance of supreme maturity, you are still completely wrong.

Recoil =/= rumble.

Wait lets take into account all the recent console based FPS without dispersion, and well I can't name any. therefore we must fire all console FPS Devs, thats going to be rough...

You bring up a good point. Perhaps that's why console games aren't taken seriously by the PC FPS crowd. Probably SHOULD fire them all.

Dispersion is never a good way to fix any kind of gameplay. It is catering to people that either not as skilled or very little skill in aiming and killing. What does this do destroy your player base why because all your hardcore gamers are going to leave. They seek games that are skill intensive. Dispersion does not take skill it is all based on luck. You get lucky if your bullets decide to hit close to the target so you get the kill. There is no way to control dispersion.

They really ****** up on missile turrets. First off they did not fix the true problem.

There are some very very easy ways to fix missile turrets. And this is not the way.

Perhaps that's why console games aren't taken seriously by the PC FPS crowd.

PC FPS players should be playing spacesims. Roll on Star Citizen (and -ú2000 new pc to run the bastard).