For those who missed it : http://t.co/Yc04JXvl

Seriously, there aint enough vehicle complaint at the moment that you guys are feeling it's a good idea to offer a 50% ISK price reduction ? While raising the overall ISK bounty ? What's the point there ? How can that be of any interest in the beta process ?

Isnt there more important things to do than this at the moment ?

Your link takes me to the wallpaper on the DUST site. You mad?

Do you hate infantry? Shallow isk promotions when we have not seen a single solitary hot-fix to address the problem of Swarm Launchers sucking and missiles owning.

Your link takes me to the wallpaper on the DUST site. You mad?

Your link takes me to the wallpaper on the DUST site. You mad?

Do you hate infantry? Shallow isk promotions when we have not seen a single solitary hot-fix to address the problem of Swarm Launchers sucking and missiles owning.

Very simple reason for that, the fixes are non hot-fixable, mostly because all you can really do with hot-fixes is tweak a few numbers, not change any code.

Bigger changes and fixes for that will be in the next update due out very soon.

You know what this game needs? more vehicles!

Your link takes me to the wallpaper on the DUST site. You mad?

For those who missed it : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=45111&find=unread

Seriously, there aint enough vehicle complaint at the moment that you guys are feeling it's a good idea to offer a 50% ISK price reduction ? While raising the overall ISK bounty ? What's the point there ? How can that be of any interest in the beta process ?

Isnt there more important things to do than this at the moment ?

squad with me Caz, derpships dont last once i bring out my new baby

also vehicles arent the problem, missiles are atm thats the only thing.

I advise anyone goin into matches this weekend to make sure their squads got some decent AV in it or at least vehicles of their own to combat enemy vehicles

i for one am looking forward to possible having more 2v2 tank fights

when he means big fix, he is referring to me.
*pats forge gun*

Bigger changes and fixes for that will be in the next update due out very soon.

There's going to be a lot of newbie tank drivers. Now I'm really glad I put some points into Forge Gun Operation.

It's going to be a Forge Gun fest!!!!! Lets go get em Cap!!!!!!!

Bigger changes and fixes for that will be in the next update due out very soon.

Bigger changes and fixes for that will be in the next update due out very soon.

For those who missed it : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=45111&find=unread

Seriously, there aint enough vehicle complaint at the moment that you guys are feeling it's a good idea to offer a 50% ISK price reduction ? While raising the overall ISK bounty ? What's the point there ? How can that be of any interest in the beta process ?

Isnt there more important things to do than this at the moment ?

Bigger changes and fixes for that will be in the next update due out very soon.

"Very soon" isn't a time frame with CCP thats more like "you might get it, and you might not"

I agree with Caz, but I do see the fun in this. Militia drops ship going with the rising sun.

Kamikaze!!!

You guys are all taking this the wrong way. You all think that CCP is trolling us, which they might. But you have to look a the bigger picture. CCP is doing this for a reason.

CCP loves numbers and data. They love a lot of data! Many players in this build are not AV spec. They need more data to better evaluate the situation to help balance the game.

How do they get more data? By making vehicles dirt cheap to force the players to either spec into vehicles and try it out or getting a forge or swarms(which are useless) to try to take them out. Because most of the player base is infantry AR.

So let's help CCP gather the data they need for the next build.

Bigger changes and fixes for that will be in the next update due out very soon.

Who know's maybe we get a surprise tomorrow before the event even starts(he did say "very soon" after all and not just "soon^tm" and all our QQ'ing is for naught.

Fair enough well said, Still the thought of half-price Myron with the air game in it's current state is a scary proposition to this Logi.

mmmm juicy tears

I just need a biscuit to dunk it in.

I don't think this is going to go the way they think or hope it will.

For all of you claiming that they need data...valid point, except the data is invalidated by the fact that
A. There are no pilot drop suits,
B. There is no counter to the Drop Ships,
C. The SP cap prevents anyone from catching up to someone already spec'd into Vehicles,
D. Running Heavy AV is an ISK loss
E. Match making is still putting groups into the queue first and forcing randoms to play above their pay grade, almost preventing groups from squaring off with each other, let alone when the same corp is fighting amongst itself with players on both sides,
F. If the randoms haven't spec'd into AV by now, this is not going to make them either... (more of an opinion than a fact)

B. Some are saying light railguns on vehicles are a good way to counter drop ships. I will be testing that over the 5 days.
C. The rotating SP cap doesn't stop someone from speccing in LAV or AV for this. You may not have perfect skills but enough to cause them trouble.

I don't think this is going to go the way they think or hope it will.

For all of you claiming that they need data...valid point, except the data is invalidated by the fact that
A. There are no pilot drop suits,
B. There is no counter to the Drop Ships,
C. The SP cap prevents anyone from catching up to someone already spec'd into Vehicles,
D. Running Heavy AV is an ISK loss
E. Match making is still putting groups into the queue first and forcing randoms to play above their pay grade, almost preventing groups from squaring off with each other, let alone when the same corp is fighting amongst itself with players on both sides,
F. If the randoms haven't spec'd into AV by now, this is not going to make them either... (more of an opinion than a fact)

Your B, I will believe it when I actually see it work in a game, so far the only friendly LAV's have been easily dispatched by the enemy's vehicles or by thier AV guys. Is this information provided by the Drop Ship pilots, like their claims of being taken out regularly by a forge gunner in one shot from across the map?

I've been a gunner for a Rail LAV that went Dropship hunting.

I'm not good at Railguns, but it seemed pretty effective.

Your link takes me to the wallpaper on the DUST site. You mad?

just a few things you need to remember-

• Railguns need to charge, but are fully automatic after that point
• Only fire 3 shot bursts (2 with some- watch the heat to know what you should do) before letting off- otherwise it'll overheat it.
• Lead your shots- they have a projectile, instead of being instantaneous damage as most people seem to assume
• Don't be afraid to fire a shot while it's mostly cooled down; you shouldn't be going full auto unless it's completely cooled, but if the dropship is on its last chunk of health and/or retreating, you'll need to get a shot in
• If there are no vehicles that you can see, try hitting stationary/slow moving infantry. You almost always OHK with these things.
• (same goes for blasters) WATCH. THE. HEAT.

Last but not least (this is for all turrets on LAVs), keep an eye on your health (it's the small health indicator next to the vehicle one) and pay attention to when you're getting shot at- just move to the passenger seat when you're worried about getting shot off the turret. Any experienced driver will get the hint that it's time to back off, then drive off to a remote corner to hide. From then on, hop out and they'll hopefully use their repair tool on you. If they don't know what you want, you'll need to hop back in ASAP before they drive off.

Forge Gun week

Anyone wanna make forge gun squads?

I was actually thinking some craziness like this the other day, 3 Heavies and a Logibro.


Would scare the hell out of some pilots and drivers....

I think its to really test vehicle combat. Right now its been mostly vehicles dominating the field with a FEW infantry AV trying to stop them. Now with tons of vehicles more people will NEED to get some AV fits or get some Veh vs Veh combat going. I'm thinking the event will be quite fun for the people speccing AV.

3 Heavies, one player who brings a 2-stage loadout:

1. Spawn with Drop Uplink and who cares what else.
2. After establishing a safe spawn location, come back with Repair Tool. Again, the rest of the fitting doesn't matter.

You can repeat the pattern any time you die and either the Uplink is gone or has been used a few times, or any time you notice the Uplink is low/gone and have a Supply Depot in reach. You can also switch out for a Swarm Launcher to add even more AV firepower to the squad - unless your Repair Tool fitting already has one...

don't forget your nanohives

There's going to be a lot of newbie tank drivers. Now I'm really glad I put some points into Forge Gun Operation.

I know!!!

I'll make a tank with nothing but railguns cuz railguns counter missle tanks oh wait.....

you know how much money there is gonna be for killing tanks

Unless the half off sale includes vehicle modules it isn't much of a sale. My Myron fit is over 700k ISK and I would save only 100k ISK on the hull. Not a big increase in purchase power, and it's even less for an expensive tank build.

Cmdr Wang, can you comment on this point?

The half-off sale only includes vehicles not vehicle modules. However, you also get more ISK rewards so that should help with buying vehicle modules off the market.

The half-off sale only includes vehicles not vehicle modules. However, you also get more ISK rewards so that should help with buying vehicle modules off the market.

Forge Gun week

Anyone wanna make forge gun squads?

For those who missed it : https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=45111&find=unread

Seriously, there aint enough vehicle complaint at the moment that you guys are feeling it's a good idea to offer a 50% ISK price reduction ? While raising the overall ISK bounty ? What's the point there ? How can that be of any interest in the beta process ?

Isnt there more important things to do than this at the moment ?

I've actually done the B alone before, and (finally!) had a gunner that had a slight idea what they were doing (still stupid though) so a moving LAV could continuously fire on a dropship, instead of a stationary one like I'm usually forced to.

Still, most of it boils down to the gunner having practice, and the driver knowing where to be and when to pull out of a bad situation. For me, a baloch-impact with all BPOs (except for an advanced railgun) can do a pretty good job. Saving ISK to be able to start using standard gallente LAVs.

What I'm going to be testing over the 5 days is the effectiveness of hybrid turrets (even on dropships!), when given enough love.

I even saw an imperfect today who took the time to fit a large blaster (with the range and damage, I would assume proto) on their HAV- they were more effective than I've ever seen anyone with a missile turret be.

*reloads his swarm launcher*

It is time.

What a waste of a reload considering how useless they are

Small rails don't have enough range to snipe with and missiles about match their DPS.

I think small blasters only deal 50% against vehicles, but I need to test that more.

Maybe, just maybe, they might be BETA TESTING matches that contain mostly vehicles?

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