slow em down give more armor and make them more stable

keep in mind dropships are light vehicles- so they should pretty much be flying LAVs

keep in mind dropships are light vehicles- so they should pretty much be flying LAVs

No, they're medium according to their icons.

What I find weird is that the popular suggestion for making dropships better transports is to SLOW THEM DOWN!?!?!?!? I sense a very slight lapse in logic...

I think the first problem here is that there aren't any other air vehicles to fly alongside the dropship as escorts - that's right, my first suggestion is for fighters. Once we have a bona fide assault vehicle, the enemy is far more likely to focus on them than the transports.

As for the ships themselves, they should be somewhat quick and somewhat agile, yet have some measure of defeating attacks. How about EVE's Electronic Warfare?

An ECM burst module would break missile locks immediately, yet mess up friendlies that are too close as a balancing device.

Target jammers would be controlled by the passengers (focus on flying!), and would jam (with diminishing returns) whatever enemy you point it at.

Lastly, there's the ECCM, which takes the form of a comms dish that interlinks with allies, boosting their resistance to offensive jamming. I envision this defense would be most useful as a series of communication installations, as vulnerable to attack and hacking as any other. As an EVE veteran would expect, these towers would be priority #1 in an assault.

What I find weird is that the popular suggestion for making dropships better transports is to SLOW THEM DOWN!?!?!?!? I sense a very slight lapse in logic...

Not really a "lapse in logic" but a different look at Dropships completely
Suggesting Fast ones means they shouldn't be that strong, considering they would be a lot harder to hit

Personally, I see Dropships as Heavy transport vehicles that move slowly through the air due to it being heavily armored (to protect passengers) and assure it gets there. I'd like to see a Dropship with more Armor and Shielding than an RDV (A lot more) but with less offensive capability. So, sure, my Ship will be very hard to kill but it won't be fire down at you and ohk you (Perhaps a Weaponless Variant?)

for those who don't know, we already have a large, slow, armored transport ship, and It is called a MCC.

blasters can defend when the ship touches down or provide crowd control as it evacs.

Bump armor enough to support a safe landing ------ reduce guns


Dropship =/= Gunship


96.7% of Dropships are being used as flying tanks. Remove missile turrets, blasters can defend when the ship touches down or provide crowd control as it evacs.

please explain the wp blaters are pretty hard to kill with while moving and if you arent moveing then your dead. people start thinking would you want to fly a ds if you got 200 wp in a match and even better question would you want to gun one?
until ccp finds a way to give wp to pilots and reduce the firepower they shouldnt make it fit only blasters.

it still doesnt matter if they have super armor and sheilds if it doesnt give you wp why would you want to fly it

i could see in a corp match but you should still make wp in any match no matter what you do i would like someone to come up with ideas for a way for ds pilots to make wp without killing people and a way to where it cant be exploited

I remember someone bring up the idea of Vehicles rearming and/or repping people riding inside them.

just a thought.

rearming?
as in giveing ammo

How about maps that promote a need to move infantry and demote bombing by having facilities that actually provide cover? On the same note, perhaps have landing pads that "snap" the ship onto the pad without damage turning them into strategic points?

rearming?
as in giveing ammo

How about maps that promote a need to move infantry and demote bombing by having facilities that actually provide cover? On the same note, perhaps have landing pads that "snap" the ship onto the pad without damage turning them into strategic points?

Drop ships can now touch the ground without taking dammage and you can be very surgical if you know how.



rearming: provide with new supplies of weapons.

ya, pretty much

Whats the issue with low-altitude drops? I'm asking honestly because I don't use or ride in dropships for the most part.

imo, as big as the maps are, they are still too small for dropships to be needed anyway.

that said, dropships should be able to rapidly descend to a very low altitude, while still hovering, drop troops off, and then rapidly ascend away from infantry fire.

and for pickups, obviously, Infantry's job is to ensure that the LZ is clear and dropships are not getting fired on when they drop in.

How about maps that promote a need to move infantry and demote bombing by having facilities that actually provide cover? On the same note, perhaps have landing pads that "snap" the ship onto the pad without damage turning them into strategic points?

idea: DS pilot equips CRU, once inside ship pilot begins to gain a set amount of wp per minute while in flight. This forces them to use a cru so troops can spawn and jump, and gives them wp without shooting a gun. Have a cap set for whatever the wp would be in 15 min. Reduce assist points gained for pilot from gunner.

I still prefer the idea of rewarding the vehicle's owner (whoever called it onto the battlefield, NOT necessarily the driver/pilot) for every player who spawns on the vehicle's CRU. It shouldn't be any different from using a Drop Uplink, really.

I still prefer the idea of rewarding the vehicle's owner (whoever called it onto the battlefield, NOT necessarily the driver/pilot) for every player who spawns on the vehicle's CRU. It shouldn't be any different from using a Drop Uplink, really.

On top of my idea with making the turrets only operable when the doors are open-
give dropships cloaking devices along with that.

If they go with this, they will need a limit to how often wp is awarded no matter the amount of spawns. Like how the nanohive only gives you points for one guy every 30 sec or whatever it is

No they won't.

The limited space in the vehicle and the limit on how many players can exist on your team and the time limit on respawning should be enough. And with Nanohives, if your entire team cram themselves into the space of one Nanohive, you still get an insane amount of WP really quickly.

Nano hives don't work that way anymore. You drop one and 10 guys run through it, you only get 1 ressuply wp bonus for a set time. Probably because people were doing exactly like what you just said.

Pretty sure I've had multiple ticks for multiple people running through a Nanohive before. It's possible I had another hive still active that I forgot about, but I had just put one down, still had one to deploy, and when two players rushed to it, I got 2 ticks for resupplying them.

yay to the door idea.
nay to Invisible DS idea.

Some Pilots don't think about themselves gaining WP in a match (especially corp matches and stuff), and are more focused on winning. We do our jobs by dropping people off at Objectives and giving good mobile spawn locations, If we had buffed HP it would be a lot nicer.

You are missing the big picture blasters aren't supposed to be weak it is the broken nature of balance that makes people (like me) QQ .
So far few of the things that are imbalanced are:
armor is broken but shields are OP hybrids are meh but missiles are OP

You are missing the big picture blasters aren't supposed to be weak it is the broken nature of balance that makes people (like me) QQ .
So far few of the things that are imbalanced are:
armor is broken but shields are OP hybrids are meh but missiles are OP

it still doesnt matter if they have super armor and sheilds if it doesnt give you wp why would you want to fly it

Because this is DUST. It's not always going to be about personal stats. Ask the logi's running around repping people why they do it. Because they're playing to win in a team game.

Interesting.. and this was more recently? When I drop one down I get the wp for first guy and watch the others run through it, and then 30 seconds or so later I get another if someone runs across it. It used to continuously give me wp per guy who ran in it and got ammo, I want to say just before or just after Codex they made the change. Maybe they upped it to 2 people every so often , I don't know.. but it certainly doesn't give what it used to, on top of the wp points being reduced ( which I think was a punishment because of the abusers)


Trying to find the notes where they made the change, all I can find is the initial Codex report :(

keep in mind dropships are light vehicles- so they should pretty much be flying LAVs

to the op have they joined up the maps yet?

Cloaked dropships with CRUs would be grat for transport, I imagine when cloaking is added that dropships would become much better transport vehicles.
I agree that they should have more durable, and less deadly.
There needs to be options to take off turrets for more PG/CPU which can then be used to improve durability.

not looking forward to cloaked kamikazes.

Less deadly? it's a brick with rockets strapped to the sides?! Now I'll be the first to point out that missile turrets need to be looked at, but if you ask me Hybrid turrets need to be amped up in a major way.

And enough of he "it's a transport" crap. give us weapons that can deal damage back (lazer turrets or calling in large installations) and it will work itself out.

All for being able to remove a turret(s). I like having options.

I'm saying to limit the use of turrets- when they're out, anyone inside the dropship will be much easier to be picked off by snipers, and others.

As for hybrid turrets- railguns are fine where they are right now, but blasters desperately need a range boost.

rails need infinite range. right now there range is a little more than blasters with no way to extend.