Have u met a good shield tank. not mine. but a sagaris or well fit gunnlogi. Milita swarms. they laugh at those. Lol

When you're not up against cheaply-fitted tanks, you bring something that costs more than NO ISK AT ALL to fight them.

Obviously.

Also, that Sagaris had lost its shields already when I landed my finishing blow. Something called a "Forge Gun" - maybe you've heard of them? One of the turrets landed a kill on the guy before he could finish the job, but fortunately, Mr Militia Fit (I was actually LAV hunting at the time) was in the right place to get a lucky shot before the shields came back.

Maybe something is just broke on the payouts when the tanks and droships die.

Anyone else getting little isk for killing tanks and dropships?

Its easy to get 140,-200 isk killing folks

But killing just tanks and ships is not yielding much

u nvr mentioned forge guns all u said 3 milita swarms can kill a tank and i was just proving u wrong. btw this thread is why forge guns need to be cheaper. But none the less nice finish on tht sagaris Lol. i remember when i got the finishing blows on a gunnlogi with a toxin. :D

Out of interest, could the reduced payout be a reflection of the time it takes taking drop ships or HAV's out, compared to the amount of infantry kills you'd normally get?

If not, it does sound like rewards aren't being calculated correctly.

u nvr mentioned forge guns all u said 3 milita swarms can kill a tank and i was just proving u wrong. btw this thread is why forge guns need to be cheaper. But none the less nice finish on tht sagaris Lol. i remember when i got the finishing blows on a gunnlogi with a toxin. :D

Even a Militia Swarm Launcher can deal visible damage to the toughest tanks.

Light damage mods are your friends ... if you get hit while you're HAV hunting you're dead ... I have a 40k advanced swarm fit with advanced rep and plate and dual advanced damage mods that shreads HAVs.

I've only just started running it, used to tank the high slots for survivability, but the HAVs are getting good now and a cheap high damage fit is needed to take them out.

But this is all off topic ...

I agree payouts seem a bit off ... I'm not sure if payouts are somehow based on the value you are risking aswell. For the HAV killing HAV post earlier getting high payouts it would make sense.

I also seem to notice when I run free fits I earn less than I do running 40-50k fits when getting similar results in vehicle kills and suit losses etc.

Anyone else noticed this as a possible factor in the calculation ?

Maybe something is just broke on the payouts when the tanks and droships die.

Anyone else getting little isk for killing tanks and dropships?

Its easy to get 140,-200 isk killing folks

But killing just tanks and ships is not yielding much

I said they can kill a tank. And they can. I never said they can kill ANY tank. A well-fitted shield tanked Gunnlogi would be possible for 3 Militia Swarms to take down, but you'd need luck on your side, and some good covering fire from the rest of your team while you're doing it.

I said that I've seen a couple of players (that's 2) take down multiple Gunnlogis in a single match using only starter AV fits. That's also true. They weren't well-fitted Gunnlogis, and they hadn't been shield tanked particularly well. They were still Gunnlogis, and we skill killed 3 of them with 0 cost to ourselves. I died twice, the other guy died 3 times. One death each to the tanks themselves, and a couple of AR or Sniper deaths while we were busy. If they had been taking the Militia Swarms easily, I'd have been bringing a better Swarm Launcher. I don't use Forge Guns this build, I don't have a Forge fitting at the moment, the guy I was running AV with in that match did, but didn't think it was necessary at the time.



That's the core point of the post where you started arguing against me, and it's still true. Best shield-tanked Sagaris I've seen will still feel a Militia Swarm - not as a major threat, but at least a noticeable one.

You are missing the over all point. This may work in corp battles where everyone in your team works together to open a path to the tank for you (if they are able to), but in general battles that will never happen. 3 militia swarms. That means you only have 1 squad mate left to clear a path for all 3 of you through all of the snipers and AR's so you can get a clear shot at the tank (since the blueberries couldn't care less you wanna kill the tank). And depending on the map, the tank can outmaneuver your weak swarms easily. Ever tried this trick around the north buildings in Line Harvest? Crates, walls, ceilings, and stupid swarms that fly right into stuff instead of heading straight to the target kind of stop your strategy in it's tracks even IF your one squad mate can clear a path. Manus peak? Swarms have flown into cliffs and rocks directly to my right on that map so many times that I'm starting to think the map is bugged. In fact, there are maybe 10 small areas collectively over every map available that would allow you to pull off such a thing without something going wrong. IF the tank is in such a place, IF you have someone to clear you a path, IF you have the ammo, IF you have 3 people with swarms, IF you are able to dodge every volley, IF you can somehow not have your swarms detouring into the face of a mountain on the way to the target, then yeah, you might have a chance.

ie, it's a broken system.

IF I might add to this.... in a recent thread someone brought it to my attention, the above... plus this little gem. The contract you are playing for payment is already decided. Meaning that you can't turn to the corporation that hired you and pull the Construction Contractors bread and butter......There were some problems, we are going to have to charge you more MONEY.

Killing enemy soldiers nets you more money as most games are based on the fact that if you deplete the other sides clones, however that does not apply to vehicles..... I wish CCP would clarify some points. I believe the way CCP explained in the thread I have no idea how to find, that the vehicles only cost the player money.... destroying 1 does not immediately transfer the cost of the vehicle over to the destroyer.... it is written off as a loss, while the vehicle if effective can make the player money that uses it.

So, nobody has a problem with getting no additional money (isk) for taking out a vehicle, while getting extra money for using one.....curious.

Oh and if you are going to plagarize a post at least have the decency to admit it.

So, nobody has a problem with getting no additional money (isk) for taking out a vehicle, while getting extra money for using one.....curious.

Oh and if you are going to plagarize a post at least have the decency to admit it.

Well now that tanks will be half price the forge gun is going to be more expensive to run than ever?

I just hope the payouts are going to make up for it. Cause I love my forge gun, can't wait for some tasty tanks.

So I just blew up two gun logis. Not sure how much help I got but I sure thought I would get a hug payday. But I only got 148,000 isk is this all we get for that kinda work and suit loss?