DUST Search - the reason why forge gun is not the answer

Caeli SineDeo wrote:

Man howthattaste you must really suck I started up a heavy account yestarday it is sitting at a 2.4 k/d and going up. I have killed 4 myrons with the first assault forge gun in one game. killed a gunnlogi and many sicas No idea what your trouble is. I have been able to hold down top spot almost every game i am in for warpoints a and was able to hold down most kills most of the time. Really man you get in a 1v1 situation and you just rip up proto assault suits like they are paper. If you forge and you are smart you can take out gunnlogis with the first forge and no damage modes I am guessing issikone is much better. And when the tank runs you can basically hit them accross the map with out even skilling into range prof.

Just because your a heavy does not mean you should be a one man army. right now heavies rip dropships up if your any good. Tanks melt to the forge. Your able to use splash damage to 2 hit kill and direct hits 1 hit kill with a forge. And if people dare to come close just pull out a advanced SMG and they are torn apart.

I would put 1k down that either your squad really sucks so they can not defend you. or your one of those idiots that expect to stand in the middle of the road with your forge and kill a tank 1v1.

Now if you posted something like The isk rewards for killing tanks is crap or that even though you do the most damage to the tank yet you do not get rewarded and some militant swarm robs your kill. Or you loose your kill to burn damage blowing up the tank. I would say yes viable rage.


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HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.11.06 22:10:00 - [1] - Quote At this point forge gunning is extremely fun. However something is broken with the pay out system. I took out a Prometheus, assisted on two tanks and countless LAVs, went 13-9 and received 68,000 isk. My forge gun alone is 100,000 isk. So needless to say I lost money. I normally don't die this much except while forge gunning so if everyone (tank drivers) want to keep saying skill into forge guns that s the answer to the overpowered splash damage done by missiles. They say this because they are laughing inside knowing that a forge gunner is an easy kill. I mean my best damage forge gun is awesome but its a suicide run. I have to stand still for six seconds maybe five with my skills not sure. So first shot you have the surprise, but let me tell you that tank guy knows where he was shot from and in 5-6 seconds for my second shot he could practically drive across the map in that amount of time and run me over. If payouts were great for taking out a 400,000 plus Prometheus or tank then maybe forge gunning would be the answer but until the payouts are increased forge gun in is a money pit.
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.11.06 22:40:00 - [2] - Quote Maybe something is just broke on the payouts when the tanks and droships die. Anyone else getting little isk for killing tanks and dropships? Its easy to get 140,-200 isk killing folks But killing just tanks and ships is not yielding much
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.11.07 22:06:00 - [3] - Quote Caeli SineDeo wrote: Man howthattaste you must really suck I started up a heavy account yestarday it is sitting at a 2.4 k/d and going up. I have killed 4 myrons with the first assault forge gun in one game. killed a gunnlogi and many sicas No idea what your trouble is. I have been able to hold down top spot almost every game i am in for warpoints a and was able to hold down most kills most of the time. Really man you get in a 1v1 situation and you just rip up proto assault suits like they are paper. If you forge and you are smart you can take out gunnlogis with the first forge and no damage modes I am guessing issikone is much better. And when the tank runs you can basically hit them accross the map with out even skilling into range prof. Just because your a heavy does not mean you should be a one man army. right now heavies rip dropships up if your any good. Tanks melt to the forge. Your able to use splash damage to 2 hit kill and direct hits 1 hit kill with a forge. And if people dare to come close just pull out a advanced SMG and they are torn apart. I would put 1k down that either your squad really sucks so they can not defend you. or your one of those idiots that expect to stand in the middle of the road with your forge and kill a tank 1v1. Now if you posted something like The isk rewards for killing tanks is crap or that even though you do the most damage to the tank yet you do not get rewarded and some militant swarm robs your kill. Or you loose your kill to burn damage blowing up the tank. I would say yes viable rage. I like your style. So how would you like to pay me the 1k.
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.11.08 16:59:00 - [4] - Quote Just happened to get in a match at the end. I took out one eryx and killed two passengers game ends I get 40,000 isk. So it is seems there is no pay out on vehicle cause I get that much for killing two people alone
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.11.10 04:44:00 - [5] - Quote Pay the forge master! Watch hem die. We as forge gunners want this to be the answer. A liitle help cccp
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.11.14 14:44:00 - [6] - Quote Who cares about the war poimts . Show me the money! At this point there is no huge payoff for killing a tank, perceived or not ccp. Ccp has made the comment that if you join late in a match you only get partial points, which means if you soloed a tank and a drop ship and a few lavs in a few minutes at the end of a match you only get 68,,000 isk for your efforts true story. Not sure how my perception of low isk payout works? IF I might add to this.... in a recent thread someone brought it to my attention, the above... plus this little gem. The contract you are playing for payment is already decided. Meaning that you can't turn to the corporation that hired you and pull the Construction Contractors bread and butter......There were some problems, we are going to have to charge you more MONEY. Killing enemy soldiers nets you more money as most games are based on the fact that if you deplete the other sides clones, however that does not apply to vehicles..... I wish CCP would clarify some points. I believe the way CCP explained in the thread I have no idea how to find, that the vehicles only cost the player money.... destroying 1 does not immediately transfer the cost of the vehicle over to the destroyer.... it is written off as a loss, while the vehicle if effective can make the player money that uses it. So it seems we get no extra isk for killing a tank or drop ship! So it really makes hunting tanks and drop ships an expense and no way to recoup your losses. As a matter of fact you loose more isk in the fact you could have been hunting mercs and actually receiving isk . No reward for killing vehicles is a problem.
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.11.15 17:37:00 - [7] - Quote Wakko03 wrote: So, nobody has a problem with getting no additional money (isk) for taking out a vehicle, while getting extra money for using one.....curious. Oh and if you are going to plagarize a post at least have the decency to admit it. I certainly apologize for reposting your great post! Since I get all the glory for it or something I copied and pasted it cause I was on my phone. Any way thank you so much for your wonderful addition to our public discussion
HowDidThatTaste Imperfects Negative-Feedback 2242	Posted - 2012.11.19 15:16:00 - [8] - Quote Well now that tanks will be half price the forge gun is going to be more expensive to run than ever? I just hope the payouts are going to make up for it. Cause I love my forge gun, can't wait for some tasty tanks.