Why is it again that snipers lose all sway when crouched? I mean, when does a sniper NOT crouch? Why is it cool for them to sit way up in the mountains, out of range of anything aside from other snipers, and not be penalized in any way for it? This never really used to bother me but it seems like every game I get into there are just more and more snipers, and it's frankly pretty damn annoying. I think a lot of this is simply because of the fact that you lose all sway when crouched. If you still had at least a little bit to deal with, no big deal, at least then I know you aren't just pointing and clicking, you're actually engaging with the game in some way.

Oh, and screw skirmish. I'm only ever playing skirmish with a full group on mics, people are far too stupid to play skirmish with pubbies >_<

Snipers is one of the multiple options in the game; DUST allow you to take a role in the battlefield and you can choose the role that you think going to give success and victory.

Yea no one like you as it is

He's right though, lets be fair, we all know that random matches are going to give you a team full of snipers, its the same in any FPS game out there because people have some fascination with it and don't realise that they can get better ratios and more kills by not sitting in the same spot for 20 mins like a ****.

Its one of the main reasons to run with a corp.

You forget that it takes a different skill to play as a successful sniper. It's more about patience, waiting for the right shots. It's not that easy to pull two quick shots on a sprinting (and jumping, which is unrealistic and annoying) target 300 meters away, even with out sway. Besides, most snipers don't get but mayby 6 kills per match (that's a rough average). The real benefit is the surveilance they provide.

I think alot of it also has to do with every ones obsession with K/DR. If everyone wasn't all like K/DR means all otherwise you SUCK , we wouldn't have so many campers and non objective taking people that are scared to make risks because thier tiny brains tell them it makes them look bad.. the gameplay might show less of them appearing and annoying alot of us. But that will never happen, to huge of a crowd that thinks all the glory lies in KD

Why is it again that snipers lose all sway when crouched? I mean, when does a sniper NOT crouch? Why is it cool for them to sit way up in the mountains, out of range of anything aside from other snipers, and not be penalized in any way for it? This never really used to bother me but it seems like every game I get into there are just more and more snipers, and it's frankly pretty damn annoying. I think a lot of this is simply because of the fact that you lose all sway when crouched. If you still had at least a little bit to deal with, no big deal, at least then I know you aren't just pointing and clicking, you're actually engaging with the game in some way.

Oh, and screw skirmish. I'm only ever playing skirmish with a full group on mics, people are far too stupid to play skirmish with pubbies >_<

Not in this game... Some may be doing it for KDR, most do it because they are easy to skill and they can't afford to play the game.

It's much more sensible to hide in the hills or camp on a roof with an AR or hide by an objective or spawn point with an HMG and just go for kills.

Why would you '' play the game '' and go for letters etc. only to have one of these players kill you, or be run over by a free jeep, or spammed by a dropship in your expensive suit. Screw that.

When the SP is a joke and you can't afford the ISK to '' play '' why the hell would you ?.

Just another one of the many reasons why the gameplay in this beta sucks I'm afraid.

Sigh.........whats the range on the FREE LAV missile turret??

Did you actually just tell me to use a LAV missile turret against a sniper?

Do you see what's wrong with what you just said?

Park the LAV where just the tip of the turret is close to where the sniper is and kill them with splash damage.

They want to snipe in the hills??
Cool as its very fun to track them down and either melee, pistol or militia smg at two inches away.


STARTER FITS cost how much??
ZERO ISK.

Takeing the letters is not for KDR but only for I won and you lost.

Change position, headshot gunner

Really, so you're taking letters at the same time as running into the hills to knife snipers are you ?.

In your starter fit ? Hmm sure you are.

Starter fit if you die taking a letter is ok because it costs nothing although you'll never take one in a starter fit because you're getting sniped from the hills.

So use a starter fit which is free but useless and kinda proves what i just said that there's no point using an expensive suit to play in because you can't afford to, and the SP is pointless , so like I said why would you ..... '' play the game ''

Please read and try to understand the original post before posting what you think are smart a$$ replys.

Heavy suit.
Or do not use vehicle and just forge gun versus sniper rifle.

Are you that sniper that I shoot with the forge gun??
Damn you are a very good sniper.

Ya heavies take more finesse

I think you might have got me with that forge last build but I don't remember dying to one this build yet, I could be wrong.

You guys are all wrong. sniping definitely takes more work than you think, I've tried it b4 it isn't half bad. leave how the sniper functions alone already i manage to beat them without using a sniper rifle by killing them when they aren't looking they don't see everything. out maneuvering an opponent is better than out-gunning them.

Why is it again that snipers lose all sway when crouched? I mean, when does a sniper NOT crouch? Why is it cool for them to sit way up in the mountains, out of range of anything aside from other snipers, and not be penalized in any way for it? This never really used to bother me but it seems like every game I get into there are just more and more snipers, and it's frankly pretty damn annoying. I think a lot of this is simply because of the fact that you lose all sway when crouched. If you still had at least a little bit to deal with, no big deal, at least then I know you aren't just pointing and clicking, you're actually engaging with the game in some way.

Oh, and screw skirmish. I'm only ever playing skirmish with a full group on mics, people are far too stupid to play skirmish with pubbies >_<

I'm notoriously bad at sniping in all FPS games, yet even I have been able to get 5-15 kills with one or no deaths when I load up as a sniper. The biggest issue is that crouching completely eliminates sway. It should greatly reduce it, but it should never completely eliminate it. Also, I believe there's no bullet travel in DUST, so there's no need to lead shots or anything like that, since the instant you pull the trigger the enemy takes damage.

I'm more or less concerned with the fact that it just makes for very boring gameplay, and like someone else mentioned, there's not much point in pulling out expensive fits when you're just going to get sniped trying to take objectives. That partially plays into the ISK rewards this build, which are sad, but still.