If Friendly Fire does get turned I will do the following:

1.If someone is hacking my Objective, I will TK them and hack it myself.
2.If someone is hacking my CRU, I will TK them and hack it myself
3. If someone is hacking my Supply unit, I will TK them and hack it myself.
4. If someone takes my kill, I will TK them and Teabag
5. If I get a OB I will sacrifice my whole team to get at-least one kill
6. If you're in my way, I will shoot through you to get the kill.

I like KILLs and WP, and if your in way, then your just like a enemy in my eyes

Hopefully we get a nice page to track all sorts of stats, such as amount of team kills, that way you'll be forced to take NPC contracts since no one will hire you ^_^

Hopefully we get a nice page to track all sorts of stats, such as amount of team kills, that way you'll be forced to take NPC contracts since no one will hire you ^_^

Hopefully we get a nice page to track all sorts of stats, such as amount of team kills, that way you'll be forced to take NPC contracts since no one will hire you ^_^

the team killer will lose the amount of isk the dead team mates dropsuit is woth

LOL as long as my KDR is high to CORPS won't care who I kill, Friendly or FOE

Shoot blues every day.

If Friendly Fire does get turned I will do the following:

1.If someone is hacking my Objective, I will TK them and hack it myself.
2.If someone is hacking my CRU, I will TK them and hack it myself
3. If someone is hacking my Supply unit, I will TK them and hack it myself.
4. If someone takes my kill, I will TK them and Teabag
5. If I get a OB I will sacrifice my whole team to get at-least one kill
6. If you're in my way, I will shoot through you to get the kill.
7. If your KDR/WP is low then I will TK you
I like KILLs and WP, and if your in way, then your just like a enemy in my eyes

Wise words.

If FF goes live, you will end up with negative warpoints, get booted after 30s, and no corporation will ever take you.

Sorry bro, but corps look at the KDR and not the TK. I don't really care if my team win/losses, as long my KDR and WP are high

You have clearly never played EVE, a history of awoxing (team killing) is something that'll get you on the 'do not hire this guy ever' list.

Keep in mind, that unlike most FPS games, death means something in Dust, you lose money everytime you die, so TKing will cost you corp money, as well as the battle, and again, unlike most FPS games, the battles mean something too. So any corp worth anything will never hire a serial team killer.

Feel free to slum it in the NPC corp hi-sec battles though

Once again, World of Tanks has an excellent system to emulate for this. If you damage/kill a friendly, you are fined ISK from your winnings and you have to compensate the victim monetarily as well. In effect, you get a big ISK fine at the end of the game, and the person you killed gets a portion of that fine added to their own wallet. If you inflict too much damage against your own team, you become designated as a team killer, and anyone on your own team is able to kill you as much as they want without repercussion. If you get designated as a team killer too much, you get suspended from the game temporarily. I think you can even be banned if you keep team killing.

The exception to this would be if the person you damage has joined a squad with you or is on your corp. People in your squad/corp can be shot/killed without penalty, the idea being that you're friends and the TK'ing is either in good fun, part of the plan, or if it is malicious, something you can avoid by leaving the squad/corp.

What's interesting is that, in WoT, the penalty for team damage/killing is actually fairly intelligent. That is, if you shoot a friendly one time, in close proximity to an enemy, the penalty is less than if you were to shoot a friendly repeatedly in an area where no enemies are. The system actually distinguishes between deliberate and accidental team killing, and gives harsher penalties for blatantly malicious team killing, while being a bit more lenient on one accidental hit from a missed shot.

I like the idea of people having to watch their fire, but as the OP demonstrates, if you simply turn FF on and wash your hands of the result it'd be the end of Dust. Having strong negatives for teamkilling in the Instant Battle "highsec" games we're currently playing would be a required step.

Trust me on this brahhhhhh, when it comes to FPS's clans only care about KDR. Anyways Im not gonna TK in a corp battle. Well not try to at least. Everything will be fine if the corp members do not do the following
A. Get in my line of fire
B. Attack large # of people when I have a OS

Thank goodness for FF. Now I can execute all the idiots on my team before the enemy gets to.

Could be a good way to deny them warpoints for an OB.

"I'm sorry I had to kill you, it's for the good of the team. You'll make up the ISK for that 100K dropsuit in no time!"

@ Christ0pher Blair

If you have ever played a competitively in any shooter you would understand why people like me will always have multiplier corp invites. I get it EVE is fun because you can play HOUSE.,but when the shooting starts,all it comes down to is who is the best at aiming and shooting

Understand ;)

If Friendly Fire does get turned I will do the following:

1.If someone is hacking my Objective, I will TK them and hack it myself.
2.If someone is hacking my CRU, I will TK them and hack it myself
3. If someone is hacking my Supply unit, I will TK them and hack it myself.
4. If someone takes my kill, I will TK them and Teabag
5. If I get a OB I will sacrifice my whole team to get at-least one kill
6. If you're in my way, I will shoot through you to get the kill.
7. If your KDR/WP is low then I will TK you
I like KILLs and WP, and if your in way, then your just like a enemy in my eyes

@ Christ0pher Blair

If you have ever played a competitively in any shooter you would understand why people like me will always have multiplier corp invites. I get it EVE is fun because you can play HOUSE.,but when the shooting starts,all it comes down to is who is the best at aiming and shooting

Understand ;)

They won't do an ISK fine for team killing, because in EVE there is nothing to stop me from killing corpmates, or groupmates other than the fact that I don't do it. Remember that a big part of this game is espoinage and spying. Some of the most well known people in EVE are ones that destroyed entire corps and alliances. If you can do it in EVE you'll be able to do it in DUST. I can't wait to see all the whining and bitching and complaining once they flip the Friendly Fire switch. The only repercussion may be that you'll lose some Security Status if they have something like that. However, they don't track kills in EVE except on Killboards, there is no stats page for that kind of stuff and I don't think there will be in DUST. So ya'll can keep all the wishful thinking going. It's gonna be alot of TKing, and backstabbing in this game, so you might as well brace yourself for it.

This ain't World of Tanks either so that penalty system isn't going to apply either.

funny...

casuals threatening to tk other casuals in a team based game.

much ado about nada.

the funny thing is:

op, you're one dude.
how bad is your transvaginal mesh gonna feel when you meet a whole clan of tkers?

you won't even be able to log out.
tk
rez
tk
rez
tk
rez
tk
rez
tk
rez...

hey what happens if we tk and rez him so many times he runs outta gear?

guess we will find out, huh?

go ahead and tk.
that's not even the funny part.

Peace
B

ps
amateurs, pfff.

Are you knew to fps? Most people good players roll in groups. When **** goes down it can turn into an all out war. I will remember your name and have fun wrecking you and your scrub friends in game.

LMFOA I can't wait to make a teamkilling alt.

I am coming for all you scrubs asking for isk loss for TKing. This isn't world of tanks. This is new eden and griefing is a part of the culture. We should lose WPs for TKing.

TKing is OP nerf it!!!

As is facing the consequences for said actions, ISK and WP for team kills (Hi-sec only ofc) in addition to other systems, personally I'm a fan of a sec status style thing, where after enough TKing you are barred from hi-sec until you grind your way back with rouge drone missions, though good luck finding a team to do those with . I also like an adaptation of the system Halo has, where after a few team kills your squad leader has the option to boot you from the match.

The corp your TKing. Hell, pick on terribads and wreck their whole squad.

Who cares about isk and wp loss on an alt made for teamkilling?

The point is, if you are dedicated to TKing, you'll soon find yourself broke and locked out of hi-sec. And don't think you can just roll another alt to get around that, it's a bannable offence and it's easy to track and catch.

TKing is just going to become the biggest booster method ever if it is implemented.
Kill-Rez(+60)-Kill-Rez(+60), etc. etc.

Kill(-100)-Rez(+60)-Kill(-100)-Rez(+60) etc etc

All CCP has to do is make TKing carry a WP penalty that's bigger than the gain for rezing.

LOL a bannable offence. Get real. I will have fun t-bagging you. I have been teamkilling scrubs for years and thats what everybody says when they get wrecked. I'm gonna get you banned. Well I'm still here.

Kill(-100)-Rez(+60)-Kill(-100)-Rez(+60) etc etc

All CCP has to do is make TKing carry a WP penalty that's bigger than the gain for rezing.

Not if you have three people, one of whom is an alt that doesn't matter if it loses WP.
First guy kills second guy(-100)
Third guy revives second guy(+60)
etc.
When you have corps like the Warriors this is more than a possibility.

There are no sec penalties and ccp has said nothing about it yet. Besides I have 3 PS3s in my house so I have plenty of teamkilling alts to switch from without being detected.

Three PS3s in the same house?
You know what an IP ban is, right?

lol ps3 supports proxy use.

there are ways round every thing you are going to say. if someone wants to.

What about a CCP guy personally coming round to your house and smacking you in the head with the Ban-Hammer.

I'm sure after reading this thread the Devs are really keen to put FF in.

If Friendly Fire does get turned I will do the following:

1.If someone is hacking my Objective, I will TK them and hack it myself.
2.If someone is hacking my CRU, I will TK them and hack it myself
3. If someone is hacking my Supply unit, I will TK them and hack it myself.
4. If someone takes my kill, I will TK them and Teabag
5. If I get a OB I will sacrifice my whole team to get at-least one kill
6. If you're in my way, I will shoot through you to get the kill.
7. If your KDR/WP is low then I will TK you
I like KILLs and WP, and if your in way, then your just like a enemy in my eyes

wont work because people can have multiple accounts and multiple toons. they will just rotate constantly to watever ccp set the balance to.

does it matter if the alt is leveled up if its used for greifing?

sry i edited post.

sry i edited post. i dont see what the issue is, only the people who want to see this game fail are wanting ff on in hi sec.

If Friendly Fire does get turned I will do the following:

1.If someone is hacking my Objective, I will TK them and hack it myself.
2.If someone is hacking my CRU, I will TK them and hack it myself
3. If someone is hacking my Supply unit, I will TK them and hack it myself.
4. If someone takes my kill, I will TK them and Teabag
5. If I get a OB I will sacrifice my whole team to get at-least one kill
6. If you're in my way, I will shoot through you to get the kill.
7. If your KDR/WP is low then I will TK you
I like KILLs and WP, and if your in way, then your just like a enemy in my eyes

http://community.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&nbid=73446
Imagine if this new bounty system were implemented in Dust. We could put bounties on teamkillers so they'd get farmed in every match.

I'd collect the bounty on regnum any day :)

If Friendly Fire does get turned I will do the following:

1.If someone is hacking my Objective, I will TK them and hack it myself.
2.If someone is hacking my CRU, I will TK them and hack it myself
3. If someone is hacking my Supply unit, I will TK them and hack it myself.
4. If someone takes my kill, I will TK them and Teabag
5. If I get a OB I will sacrifice my whole team to get at-least one kill
6. If you're in my way, I will shoot through you to get the kill.
7. If your KDR/WP is low then I will TK you
I like KILLs and WP, and if your in way, then your just like a enemy in my eyes

guess who am i right?

Planet side system is good

After a few tk, your weapons are locked for about a minute....if you do it again after that, the lockout period just increase and basically you wander around waiting to get killed....

Tk is counteproductive unless being an annoying scrub is your purpose. Tk a player who isnt doing the right thing, or for not being a team player, is a waste of bullets....coaching such people is the better option....

Tk glitchers is the only exception

@ Christ0pher Blair

If you have ever played a competitively in any shooter you would understand why people like me will always have multiplier corp invites. I get it EVE is fun because you can play HOUSE.,but when the shooting starts,all it comes down to is who is the best at aiming and shooting

Understand ;)

Although I understand where you are coming from, my second point was to view Tking as a lore in a contract-based game.

Also, it's never as simple as who's the best at aiming and shooting unless you're talking about individual ranking.
If you're more trouble than your worth, then you will find less and less friends in the universe. However, that being said, the ball is purely in CCPs court on this issue. This is different than other FPS console games with FF on simply because every time you die, you could lose (real) money. If people can simply lose this due to a player on his own team, with no significant repercussions for the teammate, then few people are going to be happy about the issue. It has the potential to become a bad business decision on behalf of CCP.

Griefing is to much a part of the eve universe. I thought new eden was harsh? We need FF.

Griefing is to much a part of the eve universe. I thought new eden was harsh? We need FF.

Griefing is to much a part of the eve universe. I thought new eden was harsh? We need FF.

Once again, World of Tanks has an excellent system to emulate for this. If you damage/kill a friendly, you are fined ISK from your winnings and you have to compensate the victim monetarily as well. In effect, you get a big ISK fine at the end of the game, and the person you killed gets a portion of that fine added to their own wallet. If you inflict too much damage against your own team, you become designated as a team killer, and anyone on your own team is able to kill you as much as they want without repercussion. If you get designated as a team killer too much, you get suspended from the game temporarily. I think you can even be banned if you keep team killing.

The exception to this would be if the person you damage has joined a squad with you or is on your corp. People in your squad/corp can be shot/killed without penalty, the idea being that you're friends and the TK'ing is either in good fun, part of the plan, or if it is malicious, something you can avoid by leaving the squad/corp.

What's interesting is that, in WoT, the penalty for team damage/killing is actually fairly intelligent. That is, if you shoot a friendly one time, in close proximity to an enemy, the penalty is less than if you were to shoot a friendly repeatedly in an area where no enemies are. The system actually distinguishes between deliberate and accidental team killing, and gives harsher penalties for blatantly malicious team killing, while being a bit more lenient on one accidental hit from a missed shot.

I like the idea of people having to watch their fire, but as the OP demonstrates, if you simply turn FF on and wash your hands of the result it'd be the end of Dust. Having strong negatives for teamkilling in the Instant Battle "highsec" games we're currently playing would be a required step.

If Friendly Fire does get turned I will do the following:

1.If someone is hacking my Objective, I will TK them and hack it myself.
2.If someone is hacking my CRU, I will TK them and hack it myself
3. If someone is hacking my Supply unit, I will TK them and hack it myself.
4. If someone takes my kill, I will TK them and Teabag
5. If I get a OB I will sacrifice my whole team to get at-least one kill
6. If you're in my way, I will shoot through you to get the kill.
7. If your KDR/WP is low then I will TK you
I like KILLs and WP, and if your in way, then your just like a enemy in my eyes

If Friendly Fire does get turned I will do the following:

1.If someone is hacking my Objective, I will TK them and hack it myself.
2.If someone is hacking my CRU, I will TK them and hack it myself
3. If someone is hacking my Supply unit, I will TK them and hack it myself.
4. If someone takes my kill, I will TK them and Teabag
5. If I get a OB I will sacrifice my whole team to get at-least one kill
6. If you're in my way, I will shoot through you to get the kill.
7. If your KDR/WP is low then I will TK you
I like KILLs and WP, and if your in way, then your just like a enemy in my eyes