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Crimson MoonV wrote:

Villore Isu wrote:

Crimson MoonV wrote:

Villore Isu wrote:

Crimson Moon V wrote:

LMFOA I can't wait to make a teamkilling alt.

I am coming for all you scrubs asking for isk loss for TKing. This isn't world of tanks. This is new eden and griefing is a part of the culture. We should lose WPs for TKing.

TKing is OP nerf it!!!

As is facing the consequences for said actions, ISK and WP for team kills (Hi-sec only ofc) in addition to other systems, personally I'm a fan of a sec status style thing, where after enough TKing you are barred from hi-sec until you grind your way back with rouge drone missions, though good luck finding a team to do those with Lol

. I also like an adaptation of the system Halo has, where after a few team kills your squad leader has the option to boot you from the match.

Who cares about isk and wp loss on an alt made for teamkilling?

The point is, if you are dedicated to TKing, you'll soon find yourself broke and locked out of hi-sec. And don't think you can just roll another alt to get around that, it's a bannable offence and it's easy to track and catch.

LOL a bannable offence. Get real. I will have fun t-bagging you. I have been teamkilling scrubs for years and thats what everybody says when they get wrecked. I'm gonna get you banned. Well I'm still here. Roll

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Sleepy Zan Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 2046	Posted - 2012.10.11 18:13:00 - [31] - Quote Super Cargo wrote: Sleepy Zan wrote: Super Cargo wrote: Thank goodness for FF. Now I can execute all the idiots on my team before the enemy gets to. Could be a good way to deny them warpoints for an OB. "I'm sorry I had to kill you, it's for the good of the team. You'll make up the ISK for that 100K dropsuit in no time!" this is the way I look at it
Unit-775 Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 36	Posted - 2012.10.11 18:24:00 - [32] - Quote ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote: @ Christ0pher Blair If you have ever played a competitively in any shooter you would understand why people like me will always have multiplier corp invites. I get it EVE is fun because you can play HOUSE.,but when the shooting starts,all it comes down to is who is the best at aiming and shooting Understand ;) is it ? TK shows you cant be trusted, and the damage a corp can get from someone which cant be trusted will be huge, and hopping corps makes it even worse. Its EVE corps not the Clan stuff your used to. Get a bad reputation and you end up as a unwanted stepchild. But on the bright side, simply make an alt and go TK as much as you want.
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.10.11 18:29:00 - [33] - Quote -on you XMB go to the far left and create a new user profile. -once you've logged into that profile, create a new psn account -once you get to the option to create a master account or sub account, pick sub account. -it should then tell you to enter the master account details and so forth. - and vuas-la, you have a new PSN account. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRcR6q4NlSk
SILENTSAM 69 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 421	Posted - 2012.10.11 19:22:00 - [34] - Quote ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote: If Friendly Fire does get turned I will do the following: 1.If someone is hacking my Objective, I will TK them and hack it myself. 2.If someone is hacking my CRU, I will TK them and hack it myself 3. If someone is hacking my Supply unit, I will TK them and hack it myself. 4. If someone takes my kill, I will TK them and Teabag 5. If I get a OB I will sacrifice my whole team to get at-least one kill 6. If you're in my way, I will shoot through you to get the kill. 7. If your KDR/WP is low then I will TK you I like KILLs and WP, and if your in way, then your just like a enemy in my eyes Good! This is what you should do, and what you should have the option to do. This will also mean you will play High sec battles that are pointless because no one would ever trust you to bring you into their corporation. You wouldn't make much money, and you would never make an impact in the game world. Team Killing is a must!
SILENTSAM 69 Pro Hic Immortalis RISE of LEGION 421	Posted - 2012.10.11 19:29:00 - [35] - Quote ReGnUM STBslayer DEI wrote: @ Christ0pher Blair If you have ever played a competitively in any shooter you would understand why people like me will always have multiplier corp invites. I get it EVE is fun because you can play HOUSE.,but when the shooting starts,all it comes down to is who is the best at aiming and shooting Understand ;) You have no idea what you are talking about. This will not be a simple FPS where KDR is the deciding factor. If you are destroying corp assets then that corp will drop you. You can have a great KDR, but if you hurt ISK efficiency (far more important stat) then you will get dropped as the useless scrub you would be. You can go negative KDR, and positive ISK efficiency. That will mean you caused a hell of a lot more damage.
Fivetimes Infinity Immobile Infantry 1086	Posted - 2012.10.11 19:30:00 - [36] - Quote Ridgeway Semper Fi wrote: They won't do an ISK fine for team killing, because in EVE there is nothing to stop me from killing corpmates, or groupmates other than the fact that I don't do it. Remember that a big part of this game is espoinage and spying. Some of the most well known people in EVE are ones that destroyed entire corps and alliances. If you can do it in EVE you'll be able to do it in DUST. I can't wait to see all the whining and bitching and complaining once they flip the Friendly Fire switch. The only repercussion may be that you'll lose some Security Status if they have something like that. However, they don't track kills in EVE except on Killboards, there is no stats page for that kind of stuff and I don't think there will be in DUST. So ya'll can keep all the wishful thinking going. It's gonna be alot of TKing, and backstabbing in this game, so you might as well brace yourself for it. Just as you helpfully pointed out this ain't World of Tanks, nor is it EVE. It's a F2P FPS game designed to be appealing to casual FPS fans and hardcore EVE players alike. Having unrestricted friendly fire where nothing happens to you for killing your erstwhile friends is not compatible with the first part. That said, you'll recall I wrote that a sensible exception to the rule of friendly fire fines is if the person is either in your corp or your squad. And if you need a way for fines/etc to work within the context of the game, it's easy. You're a mercenary. Instant Battles are actually contracts you sign up to fight for. Clearly there is some sort of mercenary agency serving as a middleman between the empires which want mercs fighting for them, and the mercs themselves. It would be a simple thing to conclude that this middleman finding your contracts for you would impose sanctions on you for violating the terms of your contract (that is, "don't kill your friends"). If you repeatedly violate your contract, your contract gets revoked and you're a rogue merc on the field, fair game for any of your former team mates who want to settle the score. If you repeatedly have your contract revoked, you're prohibited from acquiring new contracts until X time has elapsed. Honestly, it makes perfect sense, and it works amazingly well in WoT. The only question is whether CCP wants to put the work in to create such a friendly fire system, or whether they'd rather just skip the verisimilitude factor and just disable FF except for corp wars. Quote: This ain't World of Tanks either so that penalty system isn't going to apply either. Dust is nonetheless a game trying to do things relatively realistically, as WoT does. Not having FF at all would be a bit odd, but letting people get away with TK'ing would be disastrous. An automated, very intelligent system for punishing friendly fire is a good compromise between having FF for the sake of "realism", let's call it, and not having FF for the sake of people not idly ruining the games of other people.
pew pew youredead What The French 98	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:01:00 - [37] - Quote AND THEN CONCORD SOLDIERS SPAWN ON YOU AND INSTAKILL YOU
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:09:00 - [38] - Quote Tbh, I don't understand all the QQ. Isn't this the whole deal with EvE? Are you guys so eager to be trolled by Regnub? So he TK's you. I don't know enough about EvE but there a war declaration thing which means you can do whatever trevor. So Regnum will be wardec'd by everyone, but he'll still have a laugh and so will we. EvE got friendly fire right. There's no such thing. All fire is horrible and burns. I'm gonna start saving for a PLEX ;) get my trial character going. Edit: Regnum, just war dec every corp ever from day 1 if possible. You'll be immortalised. By EvE fanboys :D
Crimson Moon V Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 182	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:16:00 - [39] - Quote LMFOA I can't wait to make a teamkilling alt. I am coming for all you scrubs asking for isk loss for TKing. This isn't world of tanks. This is new eden and griefing is a part of the culture. We should lose WPs for TKing. TKing is OP nerf it!!!
BASSMEANT ZionTCD Legacy Rising 109	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:20:00 - [40] - Quote funny... casuals threatening to tk other casuals in a team based game. much ado about nada. the funny thing is: op, you're one dude. how bad is your transvaginal mesh gonna feel when you meet a whole clan of tkers? you won't even be able to log out. tk rez tk rez tk rez tk rez tk rez... hey what happens if we tk and rez him so many times he runs outta gear? guess we will find out, huh? go ahead and tk. that's not even the funny part. Peace B ps amateurs, pfff.

Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:21:00 - [41] - Quote pfft isk loss for tking? hardly a deterent is it. idk who the op is but he's funny
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:23:00 - [42] - Quote BASSMEANT wrote: funny... casuals threatening to tk other casuals in a team based game. much ado about nada. the funny thing is: op, you're one dude. how bad is your transvaginal mesh gonna feel when you meet a whole clan of tkers? you won't even be able to log out. tk rez tk rez tk rez tk rez tk rez... hey what happens if we tk and rez him so many times he runs outta gear? guess we will find out, huh? go ahead and tk. that's not even the funny part. Peace B ps amateurs, pfff. Are you knew to fps? Most good players roll in groups. When **** goes down it can turn into an all out war. I will remember your name and have fun wrecking you and your scrub friends in game.
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:25:00 - [43] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: BASSMEANT wrote: funny... casuals threatening to tk other casuals in a team based game. much ado about nada. the funny thing is: op, you're one dude. how bad is your transvaginal mesh gonna feel when you meet a whole clan of tkers? you won't even be able to log out. tk rez tk rez tk rez tk rez tk rez... hey what happens if we tk and rez him so many times he runs outta gear? guess we will find out, huh? go ahead and tk. that's not even the funny part. Peace B ps amateurs, pfff. Are you knew to fps? Most people good players roll in groups. When **** goes down it can turn into an all out war. I will remember your name and have fun wrecking you and your scrub friends in game. lol your even funnier.
Villore Isu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:28:00 - [44] - Quote Crimson Moon V wrote: LMFOA I can't wait to make a teamkilling alt. I am coming for all you scrubs asking for isk loss for TKing. This isn't world of tanks. This is new eden and griefing is a part of the culture. We should lose WPs for TKing. TKing is OP nerf it!!! As is facing the consequences for said actions, ISK and WP for team kills (Hi-sec only ofc) in addition to other systems, personally I'm a fan of a sec status style thing, where after enough TKing you are barred from hi-sec until you grind your way back with rouge drone missions, though good luck finding a team to do those with . I also like an adaptation of the system Halo has, where after a few team kills your squad leader has the option to boot you from the match.
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:30:00 - [45] - Quote Villore Isu wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: LMFOA I can't wait to make a teamkilling alt. I am coming for all you scrubs asking for isk loss for TKing. This isn't world of tanks. This is new eden and griefing is a part of the culture. We should lose WPs for TKing. TKing is OP nerf it!!! As is facing the consequences for said actions, ISK and WP for team kills (Hi-sec only ofc) in addition to other systems, personally I'm a fan of a sec status style thing, where after enough TKing you are barred from hi-sec until you grind your way back with rouge drone missions, though good luck finding a team to do those with . I also like an adaptation of the system Halo has, where after a few team kills your squad leader has the option to boot you from the match. Who cares about isk and wp loss on an alt made for teamkilling? Killing scrubs that grinded for 6 months to get that proto gear just to teamkill them in militia gear or smash them with a dropship..
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:31:00 - [46] - Quote The corp your TKing. Hell, pick on terribads and wreck their whole squad.
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:34:00 - [47] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: The corp your TKing. Hell, pick on terribads and wreck their whole squad. Shouldn't be hard considering 90% of dust/eve players are crouchwalking scrubs. LOL at your spreadsheet skills.
Villore Isu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:34:00 - [48] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Villore Isu wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: LMFOA I can't wait to make a teamkilling alt. I am coming for all you scrubs asking for isk loss for TKing. This isn't world of tanks. This is new eden and griefing is a part of the culture. We should lose WPs for TKing. TKing is OP nerf it!!! As is facing the consequences for said actions, ISK and WP for team kills (Hi-sec only ofc) in addition to other systems, personally I'm a fan of a sec status style thing, where after enough TKing you are barred from hi-sec until you grind your way back with rouge drone missions, though good luck finding a team to do those with . I also like an adaptation of the system Halo has, where after a few team kills your squad leader has the option to boot you from the match. Who cares about isk and wp loss on an alt made for teamkilling? The point is, if you are dedicated to TKing, you'll soon find yourself broke and locked out of hi-sec (basically unable to kill teammates). And don't think you can just roll another alt to get around that, it's a bannable offence and it's easy to track and catch.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:35:00 - [49] - Quote TKing is just going to become the biggest booster method ever if it is implemented. Kill-Rez(+60)-Kill-Rez(+60), etc. etc.
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:37:00 - [50] - Quote Villore Isu wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: Villore Isu wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: LMFOA I can't wait to make a teamkilling alt. I am coming for all you scrubs asking for isk loss for TKing. This isn't world of tanks. This is new eden and griefing is a part of the culture. We should lose WPs for TKing. TKing is OP nerf it!!! As is facing the consequences for said actions, ISK and WP for team kills (Hi-sec only ofc) in addition to other systems, personally I'm a fan of a sec status style thing, where after enough TKing you are barred from hi-sec until you grind your way back with rouge drone missions, though good luck finding a team to do those with . I also like an adaptation of the system Halo has, where after a few team kills your squad leader has the option to boot you from the match. Who cares about isk and wp loss on an alt made for teamkilling? The point is, if you are dedicated to TKing, you'll soon find yourself broke and locked out of hi-sec. And don't think you can just roll another alt to get around that, it's a bannable offence and it's easy to track and catch. LOL a bannable offence. Get real. I will have fun t-bagging you. I have been teamkilling scrubs for years and thats what everybody says when they get wrecked. I'm gonna get you banned. Well I'm still here. This is the PS3 community. Do you really think sony is going to ban people for teamkilling in new eden. A gaming universe where griefing is part of the culture. LOL smellyfeet

Villore Isu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:38:00 - [51] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: TKing is just going to become the biggest booster method ever if it is implemented. Kill-Rez(+60)-Kill-Rez(+60), etc. etc. Kill(-100)-Rez(+60)-Kill(-100)-Rez(+60) etc etc All CCP has to do is make TKing carry a WP penalty that's bigger than the gain for rezing.
Daddrobit Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION 277	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:43:00 - [52] - Quote Villore Isu wrote: Logi Bro wrote: TKing is just going to become the biggest booster method ever if it is implemented. Kill-Rez(+60)-Kill-Rez(+60), etc. etc. Kill(-100)-Rez(+60)-Kill(-100)-Rez(+60) etc etc All CCP has to do is make TKing carry a WP penalty that's bigger than the gain for rezing. That and there's a cooldown for A) using the injector, and B) getting points off of the same person in succession.
Villore Isu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:43:00 - [53] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: Villore Isu wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: Villore Isu wrote: Crimson Moon V wrote: LMFOA I can't wait to make a teamkilling alt. I am coming for all you scrubs asking for isk loss for TKing. This isn't world of tanks. This is new eden and griefing is a part of the culture. We should lose WPs for TKing. TKing is OP nerf it!!! As is facing the consequences for said actions, ISK and WP for team kills (Hi-sec only ofc) in addition to other systems, personally I'm a fan of a sec status style thing, where after enough TKing you are barred from hi-sec until you grind your way back with rouge drone missions, though good luck finding a team to do those with . I also like an adaptation of the system Halo has, where after a few team kills your squad leader has the option to boot you from the match. Who cares about isk and wp loss on an alt made for teamkilling? The point is, if you are dedicated to TKing, you'll soon find yourself broke and locked out of hi-sec. And don't think you can just roll another alt to get around that, it's a bannable offence and it's easy to track and catch. LOL a bannable offence. Get real. I will have fun t-bagging you. I have been teamkilling scrubs for years and thats what everybody says when they get wrecked. I'm gonna get you banned. Well I'm still here. Recycling alts to avoid sec status penalties is a bannable offence in EVE, and if something similar to sec status is implemented in Dust, the same rule will apply. TKing is not, nor will it ever be, a bannable offence, and not once did I claim that it was. Though perhaps I could have been a bit clearer.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:45:00 - [54] - Quote Villore Isu wrote: Logi Bro wrote: TKing is just going to become the biggest booster method ever if it is implemented. Kill-Rez(+60)-Kill-Rez(+60), etc. etc. Kill(-100)-Rez(+60)-Kill(-100)-Rez(+60) etc etc All CCP has to do is make TKing carry a WP penalty that's bigger than the gain for rezing. Not if you have three people, one of whom is an alt that doesn't matter if it loses WP. First guy kills second guy(-100) Third guy revives second guy(+60) etc. When you have corps like the Warriors this is more than a possibility.
Crimson MoonV Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 658	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:48:00 - [55] - Quote There are no sec penalties and ccp has said nothing about it yet. Besides I have 3 PS3s in my house so I have plenty of teamkilling alts to switch from without being detected.
Villore Isu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:53:00 - [56] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Villore Isu wrote: Logi Bro wrote: TKing is just going to become the biggest booster method ever if it is implemented. Kill-Rez(+60)-Kill-Rez(+60), etc. etc. Kill(-100)-Rez(+60)-Kill(-100)-Rez(+60) etc etc All CCP has to do is make TKing carry a WP penalty that's bigger than the gain for rezing. Not if you have three people, one of whom is an alt that doesn't matter if it loses WP. First guy kills second guy(-100) Third guy revives second guy(+60) etc. When you have corps like the Warriors this is more than a possibility. Hmm, you 've got a point there, but a combination of both making it so that you can't rez somebody more than once per clone and the 'yellow zone' concept being discussed as a possible solution to the vehicular version of this should hopefully limit this type of boosting.
Logi Bro ZionTCD Legacy Rising 836	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:54:00 - [57] - Quote Crimson MoonV wrote: There are no sec penalties and ccp has said nothing about it yet. Besides I have 3 PS3s in my house so I have plenty of teamkilling alts to switch from without being detected. Three PS3s in the same house? You know what an IP ban is, right?
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.10.11 21:54:00 - [58] - Quote Logi Bro wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: There are no sec penalties and ccp has said nothing about it yet. Besides I have 3 PS3s in my house so I have plenty of teamkilling alts to switch from without being detected. Three PS3s in the same house? You know what an IP ban is, right? lol ps3 supports proxy use. there are ways round every thing you are going to say. if someone wants to. do sony ban individual consoles?..............sent the broken one back under warranty.
Villore Isu Algintal Core Gallente Federation 115	Posted - 2012.10.11 22:04:00 - [59] - Quote Cpl Quartz wrote: Logi Bro wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: There are no sec penalties and ccp has said nothing about it yet. Besides I have 3 PS3s in my house so I have plenty of teamkilling alts to switch from without being detected. Three PS3s in the same house? You know what an IP ban is, right? lol ps3 supports proxy use. there are ways round every thing you are going to say. if someone wants to. What about a CCP guy personally coming round to your house and smacking you in the head with the Ban-Hammer. EDIT: WTF is with the guy in a robe?
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.10.11 22:05:00 - [60] - Quote Villore Isu wrote: Cpl Quartz wrote: Logi Bro wrote: Crimson MoonV wrote: There are no sec penalties and ccp has said nothing about it yet. Besides I have 3 PS3s in my house so I have plenty of teamkilling alts to switch from without being detected. Three PS3s in the same house? You know what an IP ban is, right? lol ps3 supports proxy use. there are ways round every thing you are going to say. if someone wants to. What about a CCP guy personally coming round to your house and smacking you in the head with the Ban-Hammer. better bring a bigger hammer than i've got pandaran monk? someone tell him he's at the wrong convention.



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