The SP cap is a great addition to this game and it works as intended. It keeps no lifers from getting too far ahead of everybody else, and it allows for people that have responsibilities outside of gaming to compete on a relatively similar level as the no lifers.

If you hit the cap make a new character and try something else.

Here's a suggestion. Keep a cap per week. However, make it an accumulative cap. Ill keep the numbers simple for easy math and easy following along.

Say the cap is 1,000 sp per week. Well some people will hit that cap every single week, others won't. So at the end of the first week the people who play the most have 1,000 sp down to whoever is lowest.

So the second week starts, the cap for the week is 1,000. Once again some will hit it others won't. For those that didn't last week they have a higher cap, because it's at 2,000.

So every week you can gain 1,000 more SP, but you aren't limited to 1,000 SP if you didn't hit the cap every time. So after 1 year a new player would have a cap of 52,000 SP and the people who have been playing will still have a weekly cap of 1,000.

Make sense? I might not be explaining that the way Im seeing it. Either way, it closes the cap between your hardcore players and your casual gamers, and your new players that come in after the game has been out for a while can close the gap faster so they don't feel so far behind. This also makes your boosters useful to those that have them, and makes boosters better for people later who want to catchup quicker. I don't care how much you love the game no one is gonna play it exclusively. You may miss 3 weeks playing something else, you come back use your booster and catch back up. Seems to me this would solve alot of the problems, while keeping everyone in check.

lol...

This is a joke, I hope all you '' QQ but I can only play 3hrs a week '' enjoy having no one to play when you sign in.

Every FPS I've ever played has the elite and the bottom dwellers.

I believe HTFU could never be more appropriate.

As for you OP, 6 packs.? Wow I feel bad for you. Yes boosters are now pointless.

I have 4 characters, all capped now. With one char playing more than a day a week is pointless as gameplay is non existant.

Finally this forum is over run by evetards so you will get no joy hear. Any proper FPS opinion is drowned out by the mob.

ok, here it is; been trying to think how to write this out for the last day or two, and with Zitro's topic, i find the time has come. Tried best to proof it; but if you still cant comprehend it b/c of my writing, i apologize, and will try to edit it more as time goes on.


Dear CCP,

From being in this beta for over 1/2 a year already, you guys have made some great strides in this game, yet also great strides backwards. The topic at hand is the SP/SP-CAP/Booster usage.

Myself, along with others probably, are finding the new cap most tedious (not trying to QQ), in that many of us have bought Merc Packs, and more then just one (i bought 6 myself). One of the biggest benefits we all agreed on was the 30 days booster. Having said that, the new CAP, and horrible SP restart has made us wonder, if a 30 day booster a worthwhile.

As it currently stands, after 2 days of playing say 8-10hours total, you drastically see the affect of diminishing return; along with HORRIBLE ISK rewards (new system, makes playing SL as the only viable option to gain respectable amounts of ISK & SP; which goes against idea of you-CCP saying you dont need to be in a corp to survive. You die either way, but being in a corp lets you SURVIVE in base of getting SP & ISK where going solo is NOT a real option anymore). Going along w/ Omni Zitro's topic on his brother hitting the 0 SP mark; what is the point of having a booster if we hit the CAP or get so to close to it we put the game down b/c of lack of benefit to keep playing. At that point, you would taking DAYS off our monthly booster, thusly making the 30 booster a waste to use, it would be more cost effective (YES, COST, as we are using AUR which is ideally real money) to buy a 1 or 3 day booster at a time if dont have one, but have aurum.

Now, i am not as close to the CAP as Zitro was on Wednesday, but i have only played 1 game in 4 days b/c i have found it is a waste to log on and play a game that since the update is "ehhh" at best, and i feel like i receive no real reward in doing so (both in SP & ISK). Prior to this build, i would play at least 3 hours a DAY, as it WAS an enjoyment.

I am hoping probably along with others that CCP, will rethink this area of the game in a realistic manner. As it stand you are: 1). Alienating the group that paid money to use items in your game, 2). the Harcore players that enjoy the game and drop most all other games for this since of how much we have been enjoying it.

Ideas that have come to me, that maybe other might agree on, or even yourselves as Company would be interesting in throwing around the table:

1). Increase or Remove the Cap altogether, and set the Sp reset to be every 2-3 days, so we still feel the grind, but at same time don't feel like we are wasting 3-5 days of our boosters

2). Allow us to set ourselves to a SP return of 0 (only if have a booster), and be "refunded" the difference minus 24hours in time into a new booster (done on a weekly basis if keep the SP reset at once a week) ; and you would only receive 1/2 ISK rewards. Ex:

if have a 7 day booster, and after 3 days you are making only 1-2k SP, have an option to set to 0; then get a "refunded" booster of 4 days (as you-CCP arent losing money, as someone already paid the 7k AUR for it, now just letting take full advantage of it).


At this time, i am asking ALL players in the community, to voice their opinions here, to bring light of this matter to the Dev's, and that they can't and should not shrug this off till a new update, but fix it so we can ENJOY the game to its fullest like we have before, and not be penalized for playing a game we enjoy (which is what is has become).

PS: i realize the cap is in place for new players; however, this is an FPS (along w/ an MMO), and an FPS by nature isnt fair; in some people have more skill, others more time, etc. List goes on, all i ask is people not use that as a reasoning to KEEP everything as is. If you disagree, there is no problem there, let CCP hear all sides and . All id hope for is the topic not become a thread of spam.


Thank you for your time, and see you on the battlefield (at some point)

~Berserker

Are you? What if u hit the cap in 4 days every week. That leaves 12 days of booster wasted (on a 30day), which id rather then just get 3 7 day boosters

The SP cap is a great addition to this game and it works as intended. It keeps no lifers from getting too far ahead of everybody else, and it allows for people that have responsibilities outside of gaming to compete on a relatively similar level as the no lifers.

If you hit the cap make a new character and try something else.

Now regarding boosters. Are you aware that they not only let you earn SP faster, they also ENHANCE the max cap of SP you can get in a week by 50%. Thus, they still make sense.

I nearly had a heart attack reading this

Im suprised you like the cap tbh i really thought you would have wanted it the other way and basically **** everyone else

Thank you Buzz for your confirmation.
But then I guess it is a bug or why do I get under 1k SP when playing a game and finishing first while the rest of my squad who are places 2-4 are getting more than me?

Finally, everyone gets the fun of having skills to work towards. Think about how disappointing it is when you max out your skills in a game and there is no where else for you to go? Sure many games have prestige levels forcing you to restart from scratch to try and make some option at continuous growth but this has always felt more like treading water than actual forward progression for the character to me. By restricting your skill point gains CCP has ensured you years of being able to work towards new skills and abilities without the bordom and tedium that comes with the prestige levels found in other games.

Thank you CCP. The weekly level cap is a great idea.

Here's a suggestion. Keep a cap per week. However, make it an accumulative cap. Ill keep the numbers simple for easy math and easy following along.

Say the cap is 1,000 sp per week. Well some people will hit that cap every single week, others won't. So at the end of the first week the people who play the most have 1,000 sp down to whoever is lowest.

So the second week starts, the cap for the week is 1,000. Once again some will hit it others won't. For those that didn't last week they have a higher cap, because it's at 2,000.

So every week you can gain 1,000 more SP, but you aren't limited to 1,000 SP if you didn't hit the cap every time. So after 1 year a new player would have a cap of 52,000 SP and the people who have been playing will still have a weekly cap of 1,000.

Make sense? I might not be explaining that the way Im seeing it. Either way, it closes the cap between your hardcore players and your casual gamers, and your new players that come in after the game has been out for a while can close the gap faster so they don't feel so far behind. This also makes your boosters useful to those that have them, and makes boosters better for people later who want to catchup quicker. I don't care how much you love the game no one is gonna play it exclusively. You may miss 3 weeks playing something else, you come back use your booster and catch back up. Seems to me this would solve alot of the problems, while keeping everyone in check.

Firstly im not a 14 yr old kid, so dont presume to know me. Secondly, i have even stated the cap isnt overall bad, but the way it is implemented is bad. I dont mind hitting a certain level, but when i hit it in 3-4 days or get to point it isnt worth playing is the problem. I have enjoyed this game a lot, but at moment, but at moment, corp battles are ehh, as only allows 8v8, so people focus on SP, so they can skill up and test.

I know this is still in beta, and that i will get my boosters back, but i dread it, if it will be like this on release, i i will feel a bit robbed on how 30 boosters arent worth it.