Calm down bro we're still in beta

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Community doesnt need people like you here.

Calm down bro we're still in beta

This is CCP's latest build and the game is scheduled for release by the end of this month.

This is CCP's latest build and the game is scheduled for release by the end of this month.

http://www.shacknews.com/article/75903/dust-514-coming-in-october-says-sony

Looks like it's just a rumor nevertheless this game is almost at release.

I hope everyone here doesn't think that CCP will stop updating and fixing the problems after release , but right now they need to fix the major issues while we are still in beta phase and fix the minor ones later

It is frustrating dealing with hit detection and stuff still being faulty. Hyperbole isn't going to get you far, though.

http://www.shacknews.com/article/75903/dust-514-coming-in-october-says-sony

Looks like it's just a rumor nevertheless this game is almost at release.

It'll never be a competitor in the FPS world. People wouldn't spend -ú40 on this. I know it's f2p, but that simply doesn't excuse it feeling dated. Unreal engine means it feels generic. There's very little they can do about that. Now, for a large number of people, this is their first FPS ever (CCP included). I ask how anyone who doesn't have a point of comparison can rate the game? Secondly the "competative" shooter will lol so hard at any notion of SP grinding. It's an odd one.

CCP got the wrong testers. However, all is far from lost. I have said for sometime that I don't expect Dust to get really good until the 2013 update. We'll see.

This is CCP's latest build and the game is scheduled for release by the end of this month.

http://www.shacknews.com/article/75903/dust-514-coming-in-october-says-sony

Looks like it's just a rumor nevertheless this game is almost at release.

DUST IS A BUST

It's hard to please everyone , I think CCP before dust had no idea how to deal with fps mechanics being that they have been dealing with eve a "space ship game" for a very long time so coming up with the idea to make a MMO fps game is genius, they were gonna make this a strategy game ( I'm so glad they didn't I hate strategy games) anyway probably CCP are playing some fps on their free time and learning some fps mechanics so they could try to incorporate them into dust, I do wish hit detection was fixed though I tried to use the sniper rifle for the first time which didn't go good at all I mean the dot was right on the dude and it took me 5 shots to kill him. Luckily CCP is a very supportive to their games , they wont stop supporting dust which will make the game better in the near future . I still have hope for this game (call me a fanboy if you want it's not an insult that affects me) so ima stick along for the ride. I believe dust will make a change for the console games if it does good , and ima do my part to help out and make sure it gets good,

DUST IS A BUST

THIS

At this point I would put money on it.

DUST IS A BUST

Then why are you still here? Just asking

Fact is, while it is not NEARLY as bad as the OP and others in this thread are making it out to be, Dust still does have some very glaring issues that need to be worked on. Everyone has to at least admit that, even fanboys.

It is not anywhere near ready for public consumption at this point.

I agree they shouldn't try to rush dust to hurry up and dish it out there , they should really take all the time they need to make sure this game comes out perfect

Not if sony has anything to do with it. I'm sure sony is rushing them already.

To be honest ... I do, to a certain degree, agree with OP

The game mechanics are really bad compared to other games ... I mean the shooting mechanics and movement controls are really not up to par, there are PS2 shooters that feel better in all honesty.

But the game does a really good job of trying to keep you in it's net. no lvl, rank, just money and skills, loot if you do good, and that's only half of it. When corp contracts release, they'll be another big grip ... owning part of what you fight for.

I can only hope the game gets better. honestly, I feel like Dust 514 as it stands isn't the game CCP wants to make ... it feels more like a stepping stone. Once PS4 comes out, etc, then they'll be able to do a lot of the things they're talking about. For now, it seems like memory limitation is stopping them from really diversifying the game and it's assets. Only 1 AR model, different textures at times, same with most everything.

I feel as dust will truly shine in the long run as it updates, changes, and evolves. So I'm ok with that, I may not play to often due to frustration at the start, but as long as CCP continues on with Dust like I think they are, it'll become a true competitor in the FPS genre.

Even if the game comes out soon CCP will still be constantly updating it

This game is crippled by the same technical issues that we've been complaining about since April, half a year ago.

Where's your beta now?

Even if the game comes out soon CCP will still be constantly updating it

To be honest ... I do, to a certain degree, agree with OP

The game mechanics are really bad compared to other games ... I mean the shooting mechanics and movement controls are really not up to par, there are PS2 shooters that feel better in all honesty.

But the game does a really good job of trying to keep you in it's net. no lvl, rank, just money and skills, loot if you do good, and that's only half of it. When corp contracts release, they'll be another big grip ... owning part of what you fight for.

I can only hope the game gets better. honestly, I feel like Dust 514 as it stands isn't the game CCP wants to make ... it feels more like a stepping stone. Once PS4 comes out, etc, then they'll be able to do a lot of the things they're talking about. For now, it seems like memory limitation is stopping them from really diversifying the game and it's assets. Only 1 AR model, different textures at times, same with most everything.

I feel as dust will truly shine in the long run as it updates, changes, and evolves. So I'm ok with that, I may not play to often due to frustration at the start, but as long as CCP continues on with Dust like I think they are, it'll become a true competitor in the FPS genre.

Whoa, slow down for a minute. Are any of you accomplished economics professors - and not just the know it all students - or just gamblers? or perhaps psychics with crystal balls? One would think so with the way some avatars go on about the game failing.

Given: there are some issues

Known: this build is better than the last.

Your Role: You are beta testers - you play what CCP needs you to play. This is not a full game yet. If they need you to play skirmish for 3 months and then ambush for a year that is what you signed up for. Reporting glitches, reporting problems, trying new strategies are all important - whining and complaining is not, I know that wont lessen it but I wish it would.

of course this is all imho.

There's no one to suck up to, the games release is coming up soon and the builds aren't changing things dramatically enough. Plus 75% of the game still isn't even implemented.

There's no one to suck up to, the games release is coming up soon and the builds aren't changing things dramatically enough. Plus 75% of the game still isn't even implemented.

Game mechanic improvements are no where to be found. CCP is more worried about the mmo aspects. I think they fail to realize that the game will fail if the game mechanics are not on par with current fps games.

To be honest ... I do, to a certain degree, agree with OP

The game mechanics are really bad compared to other games ... I mean the shooting mechanics and movement controls are really not up to par, there are PS2 shooters that feel better in all honesty.

But the game does a really good job of trying to keep you in it's net. no lvl, rank, just money and skills, loot if you do good, and that's only half of it. When corp contracts release, they'll be another big grip ... owning part of what you fight for.

I can only hope the game gets better. honestly, I feel like Dust 514 as it stands isn't the game CCP wants to make ... it feels more like a stepping stone. Once PS4 comes out, etc, then they'll be able to do a lot of the things they're talking about. For now, it seems like memory limitation is stopping them from really diversifying the game and it's assets. Only 1 AR model, different textures at times, same with most everything.

I feel as dust will truly shine in the long run as it updates, changes, and evolves. So I'm ok with that, I may not play to often due to frustration at the start, but as long as CCP continues on with Dust like I think they are, it'll become a true competitor in the FPS genre.

Worst.

Game.

Ever.

*queues up for a Skirmish*

I don't see where all of the hate is coming from. The game is actually fun now; there's no more bunny hopping (well there is, but not as much and it's less effective) and the gun-play is almost spot on. Sure there's PS spam, but did anyone stop to think that the reason they're easy to get right now is so CCP can get data on them? It was the same for the militia vehicles; they were there to test basic vehicle mechanics. Yeah, there's stability issues, blah blah blah where on a test server. And predicting that a product will 'fail immediately' at launch is a pretty stupid prediction to make.

It's kinda of depressing reading this topic and the fact they wont add new gun models of the assualt rifle and sniper with different scopes and gun gameplay....

MAGmuch anyone? Anyone?!?

But seriously, if this is going to release as a smooth, polished and slick looking gold release, it couldn't possibly be until 2014, because there is THAT much left to do.....

But you know that won't happen......

Well get a broken beta game released this year so "commercial commitments" can be delivered on time. Never mind quality.

Look what has been happening in the industry.

Its a closed market, developing PS3 games, and over the years we have become used to getting broken releases which were patched after launch. Became standard modus operandi. But imagine a video game was another product. Any product. Think cereal bowl. Think tshirt. Car. Would you buy it, knowing it was possibly broken, but would be patched later? Not for any other product but software, does this mentality apply.

The psychology is very interesting. What would you think of a person trying to sell you a broken product, about their ethics. The average person may think that such a person is unethical. But we let software companies get away with it. And we let the genie out of the bottle, that is, their audacity grown knowing no abounds.

And it gets worse. Before the free to play model, we paid our money, we loaded the game, it was broken, they patched it, they released new content, we paid more, it broke the game, they patched it again yada yada you know the story....

But with free to play - the audacity of the developers has only increased.

They now even have some of us ( i am one, and i am a repeat purchaser, i got two merc packs) paying for broken betas!

And ccp is not alone, ps2 has the alpha pack. Yeah i bought one of those too.

These software companies are onto something.

Calm down bro we're still in beta

Yea, that's what they all say. And then the game comes out and it still has glaring issues. There's a point when saying 'it's in beta' doesn't cut it.

Lol you getting furious bro?

No. Just pointing out that 'it's in beta' won't save CCP for much longer and isn't an excuse for unresolved issues.

Similarly, 'they can patch it after launch' isn't an excuse for launching an incomplete game.

I know that your fanboyism might be clouding your vision right now, but try to look past it. Encouraging CCP to make dust better now is much more helpful than telling them that it doesn't matter until release.

Idk if you read my previous post a while back about me complaining about bugs and stuff but obviously you haven't , anyway I enjoy Trolling people like you it's very entertaining , and lol fanboy dude that's not an insult I wish the best of luck on here and ima do my testing and feedback my way , and that is not constantly raging and saying "this game is terrible". Ima give my feedback and give ways to fix it

This game is crippled by the same technical issues that we've been complaining about since April, half a year ago.

Where's your beta now?

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Idk if you read my previous post a while back about me complaining about bugs and stuff but obviously you haven't , anyway I enjoy Trolling people like you it's very entertaining , and lol fanboy dude that's not an insult I wish the best of luck on here and ima do my testing and feedback my way , and that is not constantly raging and saying "this game is terrible". Ima give my feedback and give ways to fix it

Wow. Trolling level way under 9000.

I didnt even start trolling you yet lmfao I've trolled people who are 1000times better trolls than you

I think we should start bringing back some of the threads from march

Bringing back threads that still apply seems legit.

Pull a plymco and bump 10 dead threads.

This game is crippled by the same technical issues that we've been complaining about since April, half a year ago.

Where's your beta now?

What are you talking about? Everything from April seems to be fixed. True, we have new issues now, but that's the nature of a beta. If there is some issue I'm overlooking please tell me. Even hit detection has finally been fixed.

There are a ton of issues that have not been addressed. Most importantly, they've done nothing to suggest the core mechanics will be improved.

Features have been added here and there, things have been tweaked etc. The fundamental issue with Dust right now is that the core shooting is not anywhere near as good as it needs to be to compete. I could go off on a diatribe about this but I already have in several other threads.

If the basics aren't there, there's no point adding more and more superfluous aspects. The FPS market is so incredibly competitive at this point in time that it will take something VERY special to pull players away from the big games. Conceptually, Dust has all the bells and whistles, but from a gameplay perspective, it's very, very poor right now.

I believe ccp may realize that they may not have what it takes to appeal to the core fps console gamer. Thusly, they've scrapped that agenda and have decided it would be best to appease the EvE online fanbase. Afterall, its the EvE online playerbase that has shown a proven penchant to deal with a game's broken framework for YEARS before it actually gets any good.

really?

Bringing back threads that still apply seems legit.

Pull a plymco and bump 10 dead threads.[/quote]

I'm actually referring to the threads where we predicted a multitude of the problems with gunplay that resulted from the further dumbing down of this game.

There are a ton of issues that have not been addressed. Most importantly, they've done nothing to suggest the core mechanics will be improved.

Features have been added here and there, things have been tweaked etc. The fundamental issue with Dust right now is that the core shooting is not anywhere near as good as it needs to be to compete. I could go off on a diatribe about this but I already have in several other threads.

If the basics aren't there, there's no point adding more and more superfluous aspects. The FPS market is so incredibly competitive at this point in time that it will take something VERY special to pull players away from the big games. Conceptually, Dust has all the bells and whistles, but from a gameplay perspective, it's very, very poor right now.

>_> What? That's your opinion dude. The basic shooting mechanics feel quite smooth to me. Maybe it's because you're used to a certain type of style eh? The only FPSes I've really played had different cotnroller input styles and everything and they all were fun as Hell and felt smooth.

Like. When I first picked up the controller and got down to the battlefield I had no real problems other than the crouching aspect in last build. That hasn't been truly "fixed" but at the same time there is a way to tell if you pay attention to the lower right corner with the...switch thing?

Anyways yeah. All I'm hearing on the forums is "the mechanics haven't been worked on" yet here we are in this new build with smoother controls and a smoother feel. Some of us really don't care for it to be more like the FPSes others play and prefer how it is, albeit with some cleaning up certain aspects when release come, which is a slower FPS which focuses on strategic elements, and actual role playing elements.

They should partner up with GG. I'd love a Killzone: EVE edition

slower game play does not make this beta anymore tactical than the faster previous builds

>_> What? That's your opinion dude. The basic shooting mechanics feel quite smooth to me. Maybe it's because you're used to a certain type of style eh? The only FPSes I've really played had different cotnroller input styles and everything and they all were fun as Hell and felt smooth.

Like. When I first picked up the controller and got down to the battlefield I had no real problems other than the crouching aspect in last build. That hasn't been truly "fixed" but at the same time there is a way to tell if you pay attention to the lower right corner with the...switch thing?

Anyways yeah. All I'm hearing on the forums is "the mechanics haven't been worked on" yet here we are in this new build with smoother controls and a smoother feel. Some of us really don't care for it to be more like the FPSes others play and prefer how it is, albeit with some cleaning up certain aspects when release come, which is a slower FPS which focuses on strategic elements, and actual role playing elements.