Then why are you still here? Just asking

Fact is, while it is not NEARLY as bad as the OP and others in this thread are making it out to be, Dust still does have some very glaring issues that need to be worked on. Everyone has to at least admit that, even fanboys.

It is not anywhere near ready for public consumption at this point.

I agree they shouldn't try to rush dust to hurry up and dish it out there , they should really take all the time they need to make sure this game comes out perfect

Not if sony has anything to do with it. I'm sure sony is rushing them already.

To be honest ... I do, to a certain degree, agree with OP

The game mechanics are really bad compared to other games ... I mean the shooting mechanics and movement controls are really not up to par, there are PS2 shooters that feel better in all honesty.

But the game does a really good job of trying to keep you in it's net. no lvl, rank, just money and skills, loot if you do good, and that's only half of it. When corp contracts release, they'll be another big grip ... owning part of what you fight for.

I can only hope the game gets better. honestly, I feel like Dust 514 as it stands isn't the game CCP wants to make ... it feels more like a stepping stone. Once PS4 comes out, etc, then they'll be able to do a lot of the things they're talking about. For now, it seems like memory limitation is stopping them from really diversifying the game and it's assets. Only 1 AR model, different textures at times, same with most everything.

I feel as dust will truly shine in the long run as it updates, changes, and evolves. So I'm ok with that, I may not play to often due to frustration at the start, but as long as CCP continues on with Dust like I think they are, it'll become a true competitor in the FPS genre.

Even if the game comes out soon CCP will still be constantly updating it

This game is crippled by the same technical issues that we've been complaining about since April, half a year ago.

Where's your beta now?

Even if the game comes out soon CCP will still be constantly updating it

To be honest ... I do, to a certain degree, agree with OP

The game mechanics are really bad compared to other games ... I mean the shooting mechanics and movement controls are really not up to par, there are PS2 shooters that feel better in all honesty.

But the game does a really good job of trying to keep you in it's net. no lvl, rank, just money and skills, loot if you do good, and that's only half of it. When corp contracts release, they'll be another big grip ... owning part of what you fight for.

I can only hope the game gets better. honestly, I feel like Dust 514 as it stands isn't the game CCP wants to make ... it feels more like a stepping stone. Once PS4 comes out, etc, then they'll be able to do a lot of the things they're talking about. For now, it seems like memory limitation is stopping them from really diversifying the game and it's assets. Only 1 AR model, different textures at times, same with most everything.

I feel as dust will truly shine in the long run as it updates, changes, and evolves. So I'm ok with that, I may not play to often due to frustration at the start, but as long as CCP continues on with Dust like I think they are, it'll become a true competitor in the FPS genre.

Whoa, slow down for a minute. Are any of you accomplished economics professors - and not just the know it all students - or just gamblers? or perhaps psychics with crystal balls? One would think so with the way some avatars go on about the game failing.

Given: there are some issues

Known: this build is better than the last.

Your Role: You are beta testers - you play what CCP needs you to play. This is not a full game yet. If they need you to play skirmish for 3 months and then ambush for a year that is what you signed up for. Reporting glitches, reporting problems, trying new strategies are all important - whining and complaining is not, I know that wont lessen it but I wish it would.

of course this is all imho.

There's no one to suck up to, the games release is coming up soon and the builds aren't changing things dramatically enough. Plus 75% of the game still isn't even implemented.

There's no one to suck up to, the games release is coming up soon and the builds aren't changing things dramatically enough. Plus 75% of the game still isn't even implemented.

Game mechanic improvements are no where to be found. CCP is more worried about the mmo aspects. I think they fail to realize that the game will fail if the game mechanics are not on par with current fps games.

To be honest ... I do, to a certain degree, agree with OP

The game mechanics are really bad compared to other games ... I mean the shooting mechanics and movement controls are really not up to par, there are PS2 shooters that feel better in all honesty.

But the game does a really good job of trying to keep you in it's net. no lvl, rank, just money and skills, loot if you do good, and that's only half of it. When corp contracts release, they'll be another big grip ... owning part of what you fight for.

I can only hope the game gets better. honestly, I feel like Dust 514 as it stands isn't the game CCP wants to make ... it feels more like a stepping stone. Once PS4 comes out, etc, then they'll be able to do a lot of the things they're talking about. For now, it seems like memory limitation is stopping them from really diversifying the game and it's assets. Only 1 AR model, different textures at times, same with most everything.

I feel as dust will truly shine in the long run as it updates, changes, and evolves. So I'm ok with that, I may not play to often due to frustration at the start, but as long as CCP continues on with Dust like I think they are, it'll become a true competitor in the FPS genre.

Worst.

Game.

Ever.

*queues up for a Skirmish*

I don't see where all of the hate is coming from. The game is actually fun now; there's no more bunny hopping (well there is, but not as much and it's less effective) and the gun-play is almost spot on. Sure there's PS spam, but did anyone stop to think that the reason they're easy to get right now is so CCP can get data on them? It was the same for the militia vehicles; they were there to test basic vehicle mechanics. Yeah, there's stability issues, blah blah blah where on a test server. And predicting that a product will 'fail immediately' at launch is a pretty stupid prediction to make.

It's kinda of depressing reading this topic and the fact they wont add new gun models of the assualt rifle and sniper with different scopes and gun gameplay....

MAGmuch anyone? Anyone?!?

But seriously, if this is going to release as a smooth, polished and slick looking gold release, it couldn't possibly be until 2014, because there is THAT much left to do.....

But you know that won't happen......

Well get a broken beta game released this year so "commercial commitments" can be delivered on time. Never mind quality.

Look what has been happening in the industry.

Its a closed market, developing PS3 games, and over the years we have become used to getting broken releases which were patched after launch. Became standard modus operandi. But imagine a video game was another product. Any product. Think cereal bowl. Think tshirt. Car. Would you buy it, knowing it was possibly broken, but would be patched later? Not for any other product but software, does this mentality apply.

The psychology is very interesting. What would you think of a person trying to sell you a broken product, about their ethics. The average person may think that such a person is unethical. But we let software companies get away with it. And we let the genie out of the bottle, that is, their audacity grown knowing no abounds.

And it gets worse. Before the free to play model, we paid our money, we loaded the game, it was broken, they patched it, they released new content, we paid more, it broke the game, they patched it again yada yada you know the story....

But with free to play - the audacity of the developers has only increased.

They now even have some of us ( i am one, and i am a repeat purchaser, i got two merc packs) paying for broken betas!

And ccp is not alone, ps2 has the alpha pack. Yeah i bought one of those too.

These software companies are onto something.

Calm down bro we're still in beta

Yea, that's what they all say. And then the game comes out and it still has glaring issues. There's a point when saying 'it's in beta' doesn't cut it.