And depending on who i talk to it seems that either SVER can't beat ROFL or ROFL can't beat SVER...and VALOR don't even come into it apparently.


Personally i put my money on the CoD kiddies because i hate those odds but either way, i do wonder who would win.

My only problem with MAG players is that they think just because they played MAG that they are better then I am or that I wont understand large scale battles. I don't want to have any affiliation with MAG players who feel that way. If MAG is so great then go play MAG....

Jimbeezy,

You can find that same "generic" ego from almost any gamer and any game. It's not just from MAG players. I'll agree though that these players have a horribly obese ego that underlines some huge issues in which they should seek help for. I could probably list games I'm a veteran of or to for a good long, long while. Does not make me the master of all games though. Personally I do not have the will, time or funds to expend so much time into a single game just to say that I am the best at it.

Anyway MAG a was a horribly fun albeit problem laiden game which consumed enough hours of my life for me to look back fondly enough where looking at it nows me weep. Sony and Zipper interactive both burned that game into the ground and took a long extended (crossed streams) **** on it's ashes before trying to make a third person Call of Duty title which they dubbed SOCOM4 apptly ruining the series forever and more so then Slant-Six Games ever did. Infact I think I remember hearing Slant-Six laughing aloud. Imagine that. Could MAG have been utterly ten times more awsome? Oh, yes indeed! Too bad the lack of proper support from both developer and publisher combined with horribly timed and gimmicky DLC crippled the game. The stagnant community and constant whine about SVER this and SVER that only helped to bloat an already rotting carcass. Nothing more; nothing less.

May ye' rest in peace MAG. I'll remember the good times.

There are many more Mag players coming too. Most are just waiting till the full release.

And I can hear the cries already for when they turn on friendly fire. Cause friends Mag has always had it, and this is why clans are loyal to each other, you don't hang with clowns that shoot you in the back all the time, this is regulated by your brothers next to you.

And depending on who i talk to it seems that either SVER can't beat ROFL or ROFL can't beat SVER...and VALOR don't even come into it apparently.


Personally i put my money on the CoD kiddies because i hate those odds but either way, i do wonder who would win.

No no no no, it's gotta be those intense DayZ PC players that take dust and hump it into to submission.

Well, this is a complicated one. Firstly... I think you are a bit confused. RofL are some EvE/Dust alliance. Raven were a MAG faction. High fire rate, low damage. Sver had high damage low fire rate. Valor were the half way stop. Essentially, Sver had the E3 build Creodon, (hence people instantly calling it "space Tamsen") Valor had Duvolles, and Raven Allotek's to give Dust equivalents.

Sver had the largest and best Playerbase, however, both other factions also had large amounts of good players too. Most of the top tier players have been on all 3 factions too. Sver won the shadow war. MAG was about CLAN wars though. Not shadow war.
Sver hated Valor, Valor hated Sver, and Raven hated them both. It's 3 years of stale community that you are hearing. Simply judge each clan from MAG on how they perform in Dust.

Edit: I stopped playing CoD after 2 kids spent 15 minutes arguing over who was a donkey. Plant CoD kids into corps you wish to destabilise and demoralise.

I have really been enjoying the Mag histories, but have an observation. The factions in mag were developer created, then players made their alliegences to these factions. Sort of like high-sec empire. The devs didn't let the players go far enough and create their own factions and reasons to fight.

My only problem with MAG players is that they think just because they played MAG that they are better then I am or that I wont understand large scale battles. I don't want to have any affiliation with MAG players who feel that way. If MAG is so great then go play MAG....

I haven't had many issues with MAG players myself. Though, I haven't exactly paid much attention to their history and lore either. Far as I'm concerned it's a dead game, and it may have been one of the few of it's kind on the console. But it's by far not the only large scale team based FPS that's existed. My history with games like that goes all the way back to mechwarrior 2 with Netmech over Kali. Rogue spear, the Original Ghost Recon games. Battlefield1942/Vietnam, And even lately I've been doing GRO beta, let me tell ya, that game has teamwork problems right now.

You also have to realize that there are A LOT of veteran EVE players that are beta testing Dust, myself included. You think MAG was about big battles and teamwork? You haven't seen anything on the scale of battles in EVE. Back in 04 when the GNW started, the first battle had around 120 ships, bout 70 our side, and 50 NAST side, this size of battle was unheard of at the time. That was back then, mind you these are fairly well co-ordinated Fleets, with target calling, and concentrated fire, taking out specific targets first. Last battle of the GNW was around 400 people in system. Think PA was slightly out numbered that time, this was back in late 05. Nowadays you can end up seeing Fleets of upwards of 250 people, depending of the FC skills, combined fleets of 900+ duking it out with enemy fleets of similar size. And this isn't free for all, it's well orchestrated, over voice comms.

Jimbeezy,

You can find that same "generic" ego from almost any gamer and any game.

So,
I have a theory and is that you can find good players everywhere! some players spend lot of time playing the different video games or just one video game. But the important is not really know who is the best or the worst, probably the best is to find nice people willing to teach others and willing to have fun, because in the end of the day, any video game is for have fun with friends.

In the other hand I'll appreciate if we refer to other players with respect!

Cheers!

The 'put any video game title here' players can't help it, it's in their nature to bicker like children.

So,
I have a theory and is that you can find good players everywhere! some players spend lot of time playing the different video games or just one video game. But the important is not really know who is the best or the worst, probably the best is to find nice people willing to teach others and willing to have fun, because in the end of the day, any video game is for have fun with friends.

In the other hand I'll appreciate if we refer to other players with respect!

Cheers!

So,
I have a theory and is that you can find good players everywhere! some players spend lot of time playing the different video games or just one video game. But the important is not really know who is the best or the worst, probably the best is to find nice people willing to teach others and willing to have fun, because in the end of the day, any video game is for have fun with friends.

In the other hand I'll appreciate if we refer to other players with respect!

Cheers!

the mag kiddies tried to take the fame in round one with their nonsense now the EVE school of how-things-are-done is in session.

The MAG players can't help it, it's in their nature to bicker like children.

Since, I've joined, however, all of the hate and bravado are coming from non-MAG players. Hence, this thread

Since, I've joined, however, all of the hate and bravado are coming from non-MAG players. Hence, this thread

Cerebral is just trying to stir up hatred because he's a scrub yo. Good old EvEtard FPS pros. (haven't had to use that word in a while).

Because he's a scrub yo? I didn't realise you lived in the ghetto.

most of it's a bit "mature" and "high brow" and your average console kiddie.

Scrub yo is a throwback to the MAG days

I see that a lot. Yes it happens on all sides...but a lot of the crap about MAG players and why we're worthless is coming from players from a game that isn't even an FPS...and they want to tell us how to play a genre we already know?

They wonder why many of us don't care for them...yet, when we say anything bad about them they devolve into crying and insult-throwing while claiming they're better...Real mature...

To those who are unaware:

Noob - A newbie to the game. Does have improvement potential but mostly end up as scrubs. Some become elite O-holders and some few become tryhards.
Scrub - Someone who's bad and who has no way to improve. Will forever stay a scrub.
Elite O-holder - Knows how to fire a gun at someone but isn't great at it. Knows the rules of the games and play as a team.
Tryhard - Someone who tries hard to be good, and usually are, but they are still tryhards....

Because he's a scrub yo? I didn't realise you lived in the ghetto.

"Scrub - Someone who's bad and who has no way to improve. Will forever stay a scrub."

Not quite Gauder. It comes from before FPS hit consoles. First time I heard of it was Mortal Kombat 2. It refers to people who are so unable to use control pads they just mash their hand over the button, "scrubbing" the pad. They then progressed to button bashing, holding the controller properly, but not fighting in any sensible manner. Then then got good. Then better. Eventually, I turned out ok at MK2. No-one dares play me at it (I'm terrible at the new one with X-ray moves ect...)

Tbh seeing players improve is vital to any long lasting clan. Hence Cerebral being all nicey nicey join the goons if you don't think KDR is important. So what if they suck for 6 months. A year later he has a huge number of capable players. Not gods, but people who will play for the win.

Propaganda Shennanigans.

dubs it died down quite a bit on this build all the trolls went on hiatus then news of the new build they all came back like flies on ****. sad really.

phoenix, kiddies comming from 1 shooter they played a few years makes them an expert in that field? so with that logic a doctor,carpenter, mechanic, or any other treadesmen who passes their classes and goes out into the field is a master in their trade? games are all different and change with age EVE ppl know the system and the game FPS ppl are just trying to rub one off like a wannabe jersey shore episode.

Tosch, while I agree keeping things civil, it's depressing hearing about people who simply don't understand the nature of FPS. Had a chat with someone today, who just wants to fly Dropships. That's all. Wtf are you playing an FPS? Or the guys who repair you while you fighting. Bececause their bullets aren't worth firing apparently according to them. Because "they're not good".

Well, get better or go play the sims. Only way to get better is try.

I am still shocked friendly fire is off in high sec. That is one thing which puts MAG clans off. We sometimes stop firing so we don't shoot our team.

I shouldn't be so hard on you tbh Cerebral. You're alright at the FPS side of things. But the bottom line remains. Scrubs need to practise to get good. And they need to try things they might fail.

Like I say, chat to some MAG players who actually had a brain in addition to raw skill. Aside from which MAG was not a raw gun game experience. Enigma99 said it first; UT/Q3 players will be the best. If they come here. If they leave UT & Q3.

Established MAG clans are simply go to Mercs. If they fail you in Dust, they're scrubs. Easiest way to deal with it.

https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=29832&find=unread

Something very important to everyone here in regards to the whole mag vs Eve and console vs PC debate.

Let this be a friendly reminder that both sides should stop bickering and work together toward a common goal that we all share which is to help CCP make DUST the best game in the market next to Eve online. Besides, don't we both love DUST for its potential?

Tosch, while I agree keeping things civil, it's depressing hearing about people who simply don't understand the nature of FPS. Had a chat with someone today, who just wants to fly Dropships. That's all. Wtf are you playing an FPS? Or the guys who repair you while you fighting. Bececause their bullets aren't worth firing apparently according to them. Because "they're not good".

Well, get better or go play the sims. Only way to get better is try.

I am still shocked friendly fire is off in high sec. That is one thing which puts MAG clans off. We sometimes stop firing so we don't shoot our team.

Thing is i honestly think SP makes a huge difference in a battle, The new guys are ****** from the start at the moment until they hit that 5m SP mark and they have some good, solid core skills behind them.

Till that point they are gonna screwed no matter what they do or how they do it.

dubs it died down quite a bit on this build all the trolls went on hiatus then news of the new build they all came back like flies on ****. sad really.

phoenix, kiddies comming from 1 shooter they played a few years makes them an expert in that field? so with that logic a doctor,carpenter, mechanic, or any other treadesmen who passes their classes and goes out into the field is a master in their trade? games are all different and change with age EVE ppl know the system and the game FPS ppl are just trying to rub one off like a wannabe jersey shore episode.

Tosch, while I agree keeping things civil, it's depressing hearing about people who simply don't understand the nature of FPS. Had a chat with someone today, who just wants to fly Dropships. That's all. Wtf are you playing an FPS? Or the guys who repair you while you fighting. Bececause their bullets aren't worth firing apparently according to them. Because "they're not good".

Well, get better or go play the sims. Only way to get better is try.

I am still shocked friendly fire is off in high sec. That is one thing which puts MAG clans off. We sometimes stop firing so we don't shoot our team.