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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
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Posted - 2012.09.29 02:14:00 -
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And depending on who i talk to it seems that either SVER can't beat ROFL or ROFL can't beat SVER...and VALOR don't even come into it apparently.
Personally i put my money on the CoD kiddies because i hate those odds but either way, i do wonder who would win. |
Aeon Amadi
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2012.09.29 03:16:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:And depending on who i talk to it seems that either SVER can't beat ROFL or ROFL can't beat SVER...and VALOR don't even come into it apparently.
Personally i put my money on the CoD kiddies because i hate those odds but either way, i do wonder who would win.
Eve Players and their endless amounts of ISK, plotting and big-****ing-guns. |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.29 03:45:00 -
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Well, this is a complicated one. Firstly... I think you are a bit confused. RofL are some EvE/Dust alliance. Raven were a MAG faction. High fire rate, low damage. Sver had high damage low fire rate. Valor were the half way stop. Essentially, Sver had the E3 build Creodon, (hence people instantly calling it "space Tamsen") Valor had Duvolles, and Raven Allotek's to give Dust equivalents.
Sver had the largest and best Playerbase, however, both other factions also had large amounts of good players too. Most of the top tier players have been on all 3 factions too. Sver won the shadow war. MAG was about CLAN wars though. Not shadow war. Sver hated Valor, Valor hated Sver, and Raven hated them both. It's 3 years of stale community that you are hearing. Simply judge each clan from MAG on how they perform in Dust.
Edit: I stopped playing CoD after 2 kids spent 15 minutes arguing over who was a donkey. Plant CoD kids into corps you wish to destabilise and demoralise. |
SWEETY muffin CAKES
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.29 03:48:00 -
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ROFL = MAG = LOL |
Jimbeezy
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.29 03:59:00 -
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My only problem with MAG players is that they think just because they played MAG that they are better then I am or that I wont understand large scale battles. I don't want to have any affiliation with MAG players who feel that way. If MAG is so great then go play MAG.... |
Noob Noobuler
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.29 04:04:00 -
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Jimbeezy wrote:My only problem with MAG players is that they think just because they played MAG that they are better then I am or that I wont understand large scale battles. I don't want to have any affiliation with MAG players who feel that way. If MAG is so great then go play MAG.... +1 |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.29 04:08:00 -
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Jimbeezy,
You can find that same "generic" ego from almost any gamer and any game. It's not just from MAG players. I'll agree though that these players have a horribly obese ego that underlines some huge issues in which they should seek help for. I could probably list games I'm a veteran of or to for a good long, long while. Does not make me the master of all games though. Personally I do not have the will, time or funds to expend so much time into a single game just to say that I am the best at it.
Anyway MAG a was a horribly fun albeit problem laiden game which consumed enough hours of my life for me to look back fondly enough where looking at it nows me weep. Sony and Zipper interactive both burned that game into the ground and took a long extended (crossed streams) **** on it's ashes before trying to make a third person Call of Duty title which they dubbed SOCOM4 apptly ruining the series forever and more so then Slant-Six Games ever did. Infact I think I remember hearing Slant-Six laughing aloud. Imagine that. Could MAG have been utterly ten times more awsome? Oh, yes indeed! Too bad the lack of proper support from both developer and publisher combined with horribly timed and gimmicky DLC crippled the game. The stagnant community and constant whine about SVER this and SVER that only helped to bloat an already rotting carcass. Nothing more; nothing less.
May ye' rest in peace MAG. I'll remember the good times. |
Noob Noobuler
Algintal Core Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.29 04:11:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:Jimbeezy,
You can find that same "generic" ego from almost any gamer and any game. It's not just from MAG players. I'll agree though that these players have a horribly obese ego that underlines some huge issues in which they should seek help for. I could probably list games I'm a veteran of or to for a good long, long while. Does not make me the master of all games though. Personally I do not have the will, time or funds to expend so much time into a single game just to say that I am the best at it.
Anyway MAG a was a horribly fun albeit problem laiden game which consumed enough hours of my life for me to look back fondly enough where looking at it nows me weep. Sony and Zipper interactive both burned that game into the ground and took a long extended (crossed streams) **** on it's ashes before trying to make a third person Call of Duty title which they dubbed SOCOM4 apptly ruining the series forever and more so then Slant-Six Games ever did. Infact I think I remember hearing Slant-Six laughing aloud. Imagine that. Could MAG have been utterly ten times more awsome? Oh, yes indeed! Too bad the lack of proper support from both developer and publisher combined with horribly timed and gimmicky DLC crippled the game. The stagnant community and constant whine about SVER this and SVER that only helped to bloat an already rotting carcass. Nothing more; nothing less.
May ye' rest in peace MAG. I'll remember the good times. `socom4 would be a good game if it wasn't called socom4.to many cod similatities ,they even had mines with red lines from what i seen.i buy different games because they are different |
SWEETY muffin CAKES
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.29 04:12:00 -
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MAG had some very important skills that it taught people.
Give it a month or two, and all those skills will be learned in DUST. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.29 04:18:00 -
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There are many more Mag players coming too. Most are just waiting till the full release.
And I can hear the cries already for when they turn on friendly fire. Cause friends Mag has always had it, and this is why clans are loyal to each other, you don't hang with clowns that shoot you in the back all the time, this is regulated by your brothers next to you. |
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Phoenix Archer 128
Better Hide R Die
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Posted - 2012.09.29 04:23:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:There are many more Mag players coming too. Most are just waiting till the full release.
And I can hear the cries already for when they turn on friendly fire. Cause friends Mag has always had it, and this is why clans are loyal to each other, you don't hang with clowns that shoot you in the back all the time, this is regulated by your brothers next to you. I still debate whether taking friendly knifing away was a good thing or a bad thing...then I remember the sword in Sabo C and agree it wasn't a bad thing to take away...still wish they did it differently (no friendly knifing within, say, 10m of an asset or objective, even if just to prevent the all-too-common knife-the-friendly-capping-and-take-it-for-yourself)
But friendly fire in MAG was just so...natural. Wouldn't be the same at all if it wasn't there. Dust really needs FF turned on... |
Tony Calif
Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS.
2002
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Posted - 2012.09.29 04:26:00 -
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Agreed. 50% highsec 100% low sec 110% null.
They have said however high sec = no FF Subject to change obviously. |
OrbitalStrike Go BOOM
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Posted - 2012.09.29 04:29:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:And depending on who i talk to it seems that either SVER can't beat ROFL or ROFL can't beat SVER...and VALOR don't even come into it apparently.
Personally i put my money on the CoD kiddies because i hate those odds but either way, i do wonder who would win.
No no no no, it's gotta be those intense DayZ PC players that take dust and hump it into to submission. |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.29 04:32:00 -
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OrbitalStrike Go BOOM wrote:Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:And depending on who i talk to it seems that either SVER can't beat ROFL or ROFL can't beat SVER...and VALOR don't even come into it apparently.
Personally i put my money on the CoD kiddies because i hate those odds but either way, i do wonder who would win. No no no no, it's gotta be those intense DayZ PC players that take dust and hump it into to submission.
I Keep hearing this and yes you eve pilots may strike us from above.
But you will never take the ground below our feet from us. |
Ydubbs81 RND
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Posted - 2012.09.29 12:25:00 -
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OP....ROFL wasn't a faction like SVER. So, it wouldn't make sense for people to say that SVER can beat ROFL or vice versa. It appears that ROFL is an alliance created from clans in all factions from MAG in the wake of DUST.
COD kiddies didn't have the attention span to stay in MAG or so I hear. Who would win if they squared off in MAG, COD, or DUST? Who knows....I can't predict there would be a landslide either way. However, MAG players may have an advantage in large scale battles strategically. However, BF3 clans are great at stratagizing battles with vehicles. So, u never know.
But a sidebar to ROFL and EV.....pay close attention to the hate that MAG players are getting here. Why the divide?? Hurry up and sort that mess out and work together. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.29 12:33:00 -
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Tony Calif wrote:Well, this is a complicated one. Firstly... I think you are a bit confused. RofL are some EvE/Dust alliance. Raven were a MAG faction. High fire rate, low damage. Sver had high damage low fire rate. Valor were the half way stop. Essentially, Sver had the E3 build Creodon, (hence people instantly calling it "space Tamsen") Valor had Duvolles, and Raven Allotek's to give Dust equivalents.
Sver had the largest and best Playerbase, however, both other factions also had large amounts of good players too. Most of the top tier players have been on all 3 factions too. Sver won the shadow war. MAG was about CLAN wars though. Not shadow war. Sver hated Valor, Valor hated Sver, and Raven hated them both. It's 3 years of stale community that you are hearing. Simply judge each clan from MAG on how they perform in Dust.
Edit: I stopped playing CoD after 2 kids spent 15 minutes arguing over who was a donkey. Plant CoD kids into corps you wish to destabilise and demoralise.
lolno |
dent 308
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
967
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Posted - 2012.09.29 12:37:00 -
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I have really been enjoying the Mag histories, but have an observation. The factions in mag were developer created, then players made their alliegences to these factions. Sort of like high-sec empire. The devs didn't let the players go far enough and create their own factions and reasons to fight. |
Ydubbs81 RND
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Posted - 2012.09.29 12:42:00 -
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dent 308 wrote:I have really been enjoying the Mag histories, but have an observation. The factions in mag were developer created, then players made their alliegences to these factions. Sort of like high-sec empire. The devs didn't let the players go far enough and create their own factions and reasons to fight.
Well, it wasn't a persistent shooter or mmorpg. It was (or is), simply, an fps on a larger scale than 12v12. |
Salazar Skye-fire
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
85
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Posted - 2012.09.29 12:50:00 -
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Jimbeezy wrote:My only problem with MAG players is that they think just because they played MAG that they are better then I am or that I wont understand large scale battles. I don't want to have any affiliation with MAG players who feel that way. If MAG is so great then go play MAG....
most of the ppl chest thumping mag were all some of the biggest forum trolls over there for nonsense. though most of the big corps wouldnt recognize me from a random ive played for or against them all and i know who all has talent and who all dont.
most of the ones on here just have a mouth that wont shut up. |
Conraire
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
52
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Posted - 2012.09.29 13:17:00 -
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I haven't had many issues with MAG players myself. Though, I haven't exactly paid much attention to their history and lore either. Far as I'm concerned it's a dead game, and it may have been one of the few of it's kind on the console. But it's by far not the only large scale team based FPS that's existed. My history with games like that goes all the way back to mechwarrior 2 with Netmech over Kali. Rogue spear, the Original Ghost Recon games. Battlefield1942/Vietnam, And even lately I've been doing GRO beta, let me tell ya, that game has teamwork problems right now.
You also have to realize that there are A LOT of veteran EVE players that are beta testing Dust, myself included. You think MAG was about big battles and teamwork? You haven't seen anything on the scale of battles in EVE. Back in 04 when the GNW started, the first battle had around 120 ships, bout 70 our side, and 50 NAST side, this size of battle was unheard of at the time. That was back then, mind you these are fairly well co-ordinated Fleets, with target calling, and concentrated fire, taking out specific targets first. Last battle of the GNW was around 400 people in system. Think PA was slightly out numbered that time, this was back in late 05. Nowadays you can end up seeing Fleets of upwards of 250 people, depending of the FC skills, combined fleets of 900+ duking it out with enemy fleets of similar size. And this isn't free for all, it's well orchestrated, over voice comms. |
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Ydubbs81 RND
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Posted - 2012.09.29 13:44:00 -
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Conraire wrote:I haven't had many issues with MAG players myself. Though, I haven't exactly paid much attention to their history and lore either. Far as I'm concerned it's a dead game, and it may have been one of the few of it's kind on the console. But it's by far not the only large scale team based FPS that's existed. My history with games like that goes all the way back to mechwarrior 2 with Netmech over Kali. Rogue spear, the Original Ghost Recon games. Battlefield1942/Vietnam, And even lately I've been doing GRO beta, let me tell ya, that game has teamwork problems right now.
You also have to realize that there are A LOT of veteran EVE players that are beta testing Dust, myself included. You think MAG was about big battles and teamwork? You haven't seen anything on the scale of battles in EVE. Back in 04 when the GNW started, the first battle had around 120 ships, bout 70 our side, and 50 NAST side, this size of battle was unheard of at the time. That was back then, mind you these are fairly well co-ordinated Fleets, with target calling, and concentrated fire, taking out specific targets first. Last battle of the GNW was around 400 people in system. Think PA was slightly out numbered that time, this was back in late 05. Nowadays you can end up seeing Fleets of upwards of 250 people, depending of the FC skills, combined fleets of 900+ duking it out with enemy fleets of similar size. And this isn't free for all, it's well orchestrated, over voice comms.
Noone would argue that but the comparison was made between MAG and COD players. |
Mavado V Noriega
SyNergy Gaming
2283
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Posted - 2012.09.29 14:14:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:Jimbeezy,
You can find that same "generic" ego from almost any gamer and any game.
pretty much this |
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GM Hercules
State War Academy Caldari State
63
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Posted - 2012.09.29 14:21:00 -
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So, I have a theory and is that you can find good players everywhere! some players spend lot of time playing the different video games or just one video game. But the important is not really know who is the best or the worst, probably the best is to find nice people willing to teach others and willing to have fun, because in the end of the day, any video game is for have fun with friends.
In the other hand I'll appreciate if we refer to other players with respect!
Cheers!
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Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.29 14:23:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:So, I have a theory and is that you can find good players everywhere! some players spend lot of time playing the different video games or just one video game. But the important is not really know who is the best or the worst, probably the best is to find nice people willing to teach others and willing to have fun, because in the end of the day, any video game is for have fun with friends.
In the other hand I'll appreciate if we refer to other players with respect!
Cheers!
The MAG players can't help it, it's in their nature to bicker like children. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
1012
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Posted - 2012.09.29 14:24:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:GM Hercules wrote:So, I have a theory and is that you can find good players everywhere! some players spend lot of time playing the different video games or just one video game. But the important is not really know who is the best or the worst, probably the best is to find nice people willing to teach others and willing to have fun, because in the end of the day, any video game is for have fun with friends.
In the other hand I'll appreciate if we refer to other players with respect!
Cheers!
The 'put any video game title here' players can't help it, it's in their nature to bicker like children.
Fixed |
ThatGUYisSO GOOOOOOOOOOD
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Posted - 2012.09.29 14:34:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:So, I have a theory and is that you can find good players everywhere! some players spend lot of time playing the different video games or just one video game. But the important is not really know who is the best or the worst, probably the best is to find nice people willing to teach others and willing to have fun, because in the end of the day, any video game is for have fun with friends.
In the other hand I'll appreciate if we refer to other players with respect!
Cheers!
Whos this square? |
Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
746
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Posted - 2012.09.29 14:38:00 -
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GM Hercules wrote:So, I have a theory and is that you can find good players everywhere! some players spend lot of time playing the different video games or just one video game. But the important is not really know who is the best or the worst, probably the best is to find nice people willing to teach others and willing to have fun, because in the end of the day, any video game is for have fun with friends.
In the other hand I'll appreciate if we refer to other players with respect!
Cheers!
The problem though, GM Hercules, is that like with anything as soon as you invite a broader audience which in this case refers to the competitive nature of both (we) humans, and that of the nature of the online multiplayer itself with adrenaline inducing games. It tends to attract and bring out the worst in people. Am I immune to this? Oh by the laws of nature, no. Genetic memory can be such a horrible and ugly thing. I can be very volitile myself when I get in the moment. Nonetheless though it attracts the largest megalomaniacs, egotistical, godcomplex, racist, ect, ect.. Now do they make up the majority? By far, no. Infact they are subset of a minority. Unfortunetly as with everything in the age of information the way in which we communicate has allowed this subset minority to thrive. Much like EVE's Goonfleet these same people are much more organized and determined then ever. If not we would not have cyber terrorism with the likes of 'Anonymous'. It's a gruesome trajedy to say the least. That the majority of players will always be over shadowed the worst of us.
Like the old saying -- "One rotten apple can ruin the whole bushle." -- the same applied to the way in which we as humans perceive things. From communities to games themselves. Again not immune myself. Just words for thought I suppose, but the truth is that as soon as you offer the tools without proper moderation, arbitration, and a watchful eye you could very quickly lose the healthy aspect of any community or the game itself. I've personally seen what it can do to many games.
Hm. I suppose that is all I have to say really. I could ramble on for hours to be sure, but no one ever listens. I suppose my last words to this is for everyone is to be mindful and watchful. This is what happens in a world albeit virtual where everyone and everything is sleight of hand, and anonymity reigns. Like a dark abysmal alley, it calls forth to the worst in humans and attracts them. Like vermin an infestation and vile cancer it takes hold, and consumes. |
Salazar Skye-fire
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
85
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Posted - 2012.09.29 14:51:00 -
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the mag kiddies tried to take the fame in round one with their nonsense now the EVE school of how-things-are-done is in session. |
Cerebral Wolf Jr
Immobile Infantry
760
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Posted - 2012.09.29 14:53:00 -
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Salazar Skye-fire wrote:the mag kiddies tried to take the fame in round one with their nonsense now the EVE school of how-things-are-done is in session.
most of it's a bit "mature" and "high brow" and your average console kiddie. |
Ydubbs81 RND
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Posted - 2012.09.29 14:55:00 -
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Cerebral Wolf Jr wrote:GM Hercules wrote:So, I have a theory and is that you can find good players everywhere! some players spend lot of time playing the different video games or just one video game. But the important is not really know who is the best or the worst, probably the best is to find nice people willing to teach others and willing to have fun, because in the end of the day, any video game is for have fun with friends.
In the other hand I'll appreciate if we refer to other players with respect!
Cheers!
The MAG players can't help it, it's in their nature to bicker like children.
Since, I've joined, however, all of the hate and bravado are coming from non-MAG players. Hence, this thread |
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