...And three dropsuits. Y'know, the three dropsuits? They're the whole reason you created this thread.

Finally, we've arrived at exactly what I was saying. You're upset that these are being offered with the merc pack, and I said that if they made a new pack that included the merc pack and these no one would care.

This sense of entitlement some gamers have really baffles me sometimes...
They sold something, you bought it, because you thought it was worth the money. Now they promote the exact same thing by adding some items for a short amount of time, and you are upset, because you don't get these items for free? You know...every single sale works like that. Limited time/amount offer for reduced price or with added value. Does that mean you are entitled to a refund/the additional items when you bought earlier? Spoiler alert: No. I repeat: You thought it was worth it when you bought it and you got what you bought.

When I tell you, that I got Portal for free last year, do you run to Valve and demand a refund because you paid for it? When you see the Humble Indie Bundle, do you want a refund for games you already have?

If you really have to have these suits, buy the pack again...you have the Dragonfly suit and the SMG twice, but the rest is still more than worth the money. And once the market is implemented, you can sell the duplicates.

Ok instead of dealing with issue at hand, CCP ripping-off people who already bought the merc pack, you subject yourself to name calling to someone who is making a valid point.

Have you ever seen those commercials where one kid is a member of a bank and a new kid joins the bank and gets free ice cream, or a puppy, or a car?

And when the kid who was already a member asks why he doesn't also get that which the new kid got FOR FREE the guy in charge just says "Oh that's only for new kids". Then the first kid just looks at him funny and the commercial ends with "Even a kid can tell it's not fair."

No. Haven't seen 'em. Are they real, or did you just pull them out of your kitten?

Real. All three scenarios.

Well, then...stupid commercial. No connection to the real world of marketing. This one advertiser might use it to show how different they are, but without the usual sale promotion practice, this commercial wouldn`t even make sense.

The advertiser has a differing opinion than yours so he's stupid?

I have AT&T internet. When AT&T does a promotion that says "Sign up now for AT&T and you will get the low price of [price lower than I currently pay] for [the speed I currently receive]" I just call them up and ask for a price reduction. And you know what? They give it to me. On the spot. With no hassle.

Yeah but that's called good business practices, not everybody subscribes to that...

Thank you, exactly what I was thinking too when I read his post. Infact if you read what CCP is saying there is a very narrow window of oppurtunity in which to acquire this and be eligibal in which to obtain those exclusive dropsuits. Which is wrong. Especially considering most of us already bought this same pack monts ago, and some even bought two or more. They should really just put the MAG dropsuits back into the market for AUR, or give them to everyone who ever bought one or more of the 'Mercenary Pack' since you know we willing supported this [beta] by purchasing them even withought knowing whether or not this game would succeed or not.

All-in-all? It feels like a backstab to those of us whom already purchased the pack. Made worse that they offered the same pack a month or so after I purchased it at full price to those coupon cultist for ten dollars. That aside this is a backstab I won't allow. I really dislike arseholes whom continue to allow for such gross obese business practices which are unethical and wrong. Just because, you are all too willing to get on your knees and allow them to make such choices does mean we have to do so.

I cannot believe some people.

How? I got exactly what they were selling me. They are now offering a new product. I know this might be hard to understand, but you do not deserve anything more just because you want it.

ok so does that mean if i just want the new dropsuits, or maybe even just ONE of the new dropsuits, why should we have to pay 20$ dollars for it? This isn't a new deal, its the same deal as the original merc pack, ONLY with more value in it!

If i were given the option between the old merc pack, and this one, for the same price, then i (along with just about anyone else who can read) would choose this new one over that, simply because the only difference is that this one has those dropsuits for the same price as the old pack without the dropsuits. Its not about this "entitlement" **** you guys keep bringing up, its about whats fair, and whats value.

Personally, i think that if they were going to add a slightely modified merc pack like this, then they should also put up an option to buy each of the items on the merc pack separately or in smaller bundles, so if we dont want to spend a whole nother 20$ we can just spend like 5 - 10 on a smaller variant of the pack (IE: one or two of those dropsuits)

I just don't see it. Both of your posts just sound like entitled rants. You purchased the pack when it didn't have the exclusive extra, now it has it. Big deal. If you want the stuff that's available NOW, then buy it... that stuff wasn't available THEN.

No one forced you to buy the merc pack, and no one said "we will never make a similar offer with more/different stuff". To be clear, you guys (and I as well) didn't buy the "SAME PACK", because this merc pack is a special offer to entice people to buy it RIGHT NOW... not 2 months ago, not 2 weeks ago, not 2 days ago, NOW. The pack WE bought was the one from previously that didn't include this offer.

Now look, if you bought the merc pack say... YESTERDAY, I can see at least being irritated and making the argument that maybe they should go ahead and upgrade you to the current offer, but CCP would in no way IMO be ethically or morally obligated to facilitate such a request. There is no "gross obese business practices" occurring here, and it most certainly isn't "unethical" or "wrong", I mean, that level of hyperbole is just utterly ridiculous. They're offering a special incentive if you "act now", there's nothing abnormal about such practices.

Just because you purchased something previously, doesn't mean you should automatically get any free offers that ever end up being offered with the product in the future, that's just absolutely silly. Apply this same argument to anything else and it becomes ridiculous. Hell, Paran's analogy to buying a PS3 and then demanding the free games that come from a different offer after he made the purchase is just as ludicrous.

Seriously, you guys sound ridiculous.

Sure, and if you buy an iPhone 3GS now it's a lot cheaper than it was 2 years ago. So if given the choice between the price from 2 years ago and the price now, clearly the price now is the better deal. Thus, Apple should refund everyone's money who paid the original price since it is now available much cheaper, amirite? Fair's fair after all.

Thats because there is a new iPhone model out. This merc pack is EXACTLY THE SAME as the ones previously available. Its not like some newer technology has made them obsolete in the month that has passed since I purchased it.

This would be akin to buying an iphone 5, and then next week, iphone5s comes out with more memory and other features, without any forewarning of its impending release.

bend over man

anyways, those dropsuits will be on the market once we can sell our stuff, so no big deal here

Not necessarily. They will likely only be available for a ridiculous amount of isk.

and what's stopping you from purchasing them or waiting for a while for them to drop in price? just asking.






the offers is limited, it's not gonna be standard for anyone who buys it from now on. just those three days

Bend over and take it.