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Brox Coldon
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Posted - 2012.09.17 04:53:00 -
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Alhanna Ridgeway wrote:Is the community systematically trying to get everything to just be Assault Rifles
Ive seen Tank Nerfs, Dropship Nerfs, callings for a Shotgun and Sniper Rifle Nerf, Forge Gun Nerfs, Remote Explosives Nerfs, and I saw a Terrain Nerf thread today.
What the **** are you trying to do? If you want everyone to run around with an AR please go play another damn game. Get the hell out of this one, let this one be different for people who are tired of playing COD, BF3, and any other bunny hopping, buddy butt fuc king, spray and pray, ****** ass game. For the love of god everyone does not want to play that ****. It's boring and the same thing we've been playing for years. I want something different, something I have to think about, strategize with a team, play as a team, I don't want to see everyone running around with the same damn weapon. I want to see tanks, and bombers, and ships, and fighter jets, snipers, mortar teams, artillery, all that ****. I want to feel like Im in a battle, not like Im on a damn paintball field. I can go play paintball anytime if I want to. When I play a game I want something else.
I know everyone thinks they are God's Gift to FPS. I know everyone thinks they are the best player in the whole world, and that sniper can't possible be better than you. That tank driver can't possibly be better than you cause you use a fuc king AR. I know you think you're King **** because you use an AR, but you aren't, the tank driver and sniper just might happen to be smarter, or just want to play something different, or dare I say it better than you. I know it's hard for gamers to admit they aren't the best player at that particular game, but if you keep dieing to something, maybe it isn't OP, maybe you just suck. I know I know, how can I say that, we're all top 10 material, that's why there are 1000 entries on the leaderboards, I know none of us can possibly be worse than someone else.
So my question, once everyone is running with just assault rifles, what are you gonna nerf next? Suits? Or perhaps we'll start nerfing individual playstations, maybe the top 100 players should have a 3 second delay in there commands, make them less OP? Or perhaps we should make all their inputs backwards? Yes Yes that sounds good.
Nerf Assault Rifles. Problem solved!
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STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 04:54:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:This thread is 100% pointless. Do you think just maybe the person who has the assault rifle might just be better than the guy padding his stats with a tank?
We're done here.
Please tell me MLG PRO Goonswarm, how your ar should gank tanks like scouts |

Kane Fyea
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.17 04:56:00 -
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Scholar Him wrote:Agreed. The vast majority of players I run into are all using assault rifles. They need to increase the spread on those guns. They have everything going for them, and really no drawback. No drawback? How about you try and use one and not run out of ammo really quickly. |

STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:00:00 -
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Kane Fyea wrote:Scholar Him wrote:Agreed. The vast majority of players I run into are all using assault rifles. They need to increase the spread on those guns. They have everything going for them, and really no drawback. No drawback? How about you try and use one and not run out of ammo really quickly.
It's called aiming, try it sometimes |

Chew B0CCA
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:03:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:It's so i don't get ohk by a militia/standard rifle in an advanced heavy/scout
Hold on there. You don't think you should be killed by a militia or standard rifle if you're in an advanced scout suit? Really?
The scout suit, advanced or otherwise, has less armor/shields than any other class. If you're not supposed to be killed with a militia rifle, then what's the point of having militia stuff?
New players will be coming in all the time, and they should be able to have fun and get some kills using militia stuff. You are a smart man, but that my friend is a terrible argument. |

STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:05:00 -
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Chew B0CCA wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:It's so i don't get ohk by a militia/standard rifle in an advanced heavy/scout Hold on there. You don't think you should be killed by a militia or standard rifle if you're in an advanced scout suit? Really? The scout suit, advanced or otherwise, has less armor/shields than any other class. If you're not supposed to be killed with a militia rifle, then what's the point of having militia stuff? New players will be coming in all the time, and they should be able to have fun and get some kills using militia stuff. You are a smart man, but that my friend is a terrible argument.
And the heavy? The militia should require multiple shots (headshot or not) to kill something none militia |

Chew B0CCA
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:08:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Chew B0CCA wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:It's so i don't get ohk by a militia/standard rifle in an advanced heavy/scout Hold on there. You don't think you should be killed by a militia or standard rifle if you're in an advanced scout suit? Really? The scout suit, advanced or otherwise, has less armor/shields than any other class. If you're not supposed to be killed with a militia rifle, then what's the point of having militia stuff? New players will be coming in all the time, and they should be able to have fun and get some kills using militia stuff. You are a smart man, but that my friend is a terrible argument. And the heavy? The militia should require multiple shots (headshot or not) to kill something none militia
OK, so you agree with me about the scout. We're making progress here.
On to the heavy. You CAN'T headshot heavies. Can not do it. I've hit heavies with my charge and it hasn't even taken all their shields. I think you should be able to one shot everyone, but CCP sees it differently. No one can one shot advanced heavies with any type of sniper rifle. Sorry. Calling BS on that one too. |

Alhanna Ridgeway
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:10:00 -
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Way to not run out of ammo quickly, don't miss, don't just hold the trigger down, no spraying and praying.
Yes Maybe the AR guy is better than the tank driver, maybe, however most battles are won by brains kid. And you have a serious intelligence deficiency if you are shooting a tank with an AR, which I have seen way too much of. I can use an AR fairly well. I just need to train some AR skills to catchup, however, I prefer driving my tank. Should my playing experience be lessened because I choose not to run around with an AR? Is an Assault guys time or effort worth more than mine? Is it wrong to not want to be a bunny hopping ******? I think not.
Oh and I forgot Grenade and SMG Nerfs, Ive seen those as well.
Which also brings me to think that the people calling for the tank nerf, were the same retards shooting my tank with an AR? I mean did you really expect that to work? Ill gladly pay for you some M16 rounds, we'll drive to a military base, and Ill let you shoot 1000 rounds at a real tank, and we'll see how much damage you do it. Im betting the bullet will ricochet back and kill you before that tank blows up, actually I know that'll happen first, and that isn't likely to happen either.
Oh and you do realize that with suits there should be a give and take. Scouts should do more damage because they have less HP than the other 3 suits....and work your way up from there. On the reverse of that, if you're breaking the role of your suit you should get murdered. IE a scout suit with an AR in CQC. The scout should get murdered, however, if he keeps his distance and takes the time to snipe you, then yes you should be dead. |

STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:14:00 -
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Chew B0CCA wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Chew B0CCA wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:It's so i don't get ohk by a militia/standard rifle in an advanced heavy/scout Hold on there. You don't think you should be killed by a militia or standard rifle if you're in an advanced scout suit? Really? The scout suit, advanced or otherwise, has less armor/shields than any other class. If you're not supposed to be killed with a militia rifle, then what's the point of having militia stuff? New players will be coming in all the time, and they should be able to have fun and get some kills using militia stuff. You are a smart man, but that my friend is a terrible argument. And the heavy? The militia should require multiple shots (headshot or not) to kill something none militia OK, so you agree with me about the scout. We're making progress here. On to the heavy. You CAN'T headshot heavies. Can not do it. I've hit heavies with my charge and it hasn't even taken all their shields. I think you should be able to one shot everyone, but CCP sees it differently. No one can one shot advanced heavies with any type of sniper rifle. Sorry. Calling BS on that one too.
What? I've killed a heavy woth one shot and a charge. Idk what level suit but it's a bad sign when the heavy armour dies to one shot |

Chew B0CCA
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:15:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Chew B0CCA wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Chew B0CCA wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:It's so i don't get ohk by a militia/standard rifle in an advanced heavy/scout Hold on there. You don't think you should be killed by a militia or standard rifle if you're in an advanced scout suit? Really? The scout suit, advanced or otherwise, has less armor/shields than any other class. If you're not supposed to be killed with a militia rifle, then what's the point of having militia stuff? New players will be coming in all the time, and they should be able to have fun and get some kills using militia stuff. You are a smart man, but that my friend is a terrible argument. And the heavy? The militia should require multiple shots (headshot or not) to kill something none militia OK, so you agree with me about the scout. We're making progress here. On to the heavy. You CAN'T headshot heavies. Can not do it. I've hit heavies with my charge and it hasn't even taken all their shields. I think you should be able to one shot everyone, but CCP sees it differently. No one can one shot advanced heavies with any type of sniper rifle. Sorry. Calling BS on that one too. What? I've killed a heavy woth one shot and a charge. Idk what level suit but it's a bad sign when the heavy armour dies to one shot
If you've killed a heavy with one shot, the heavy's shields/armor was already low. Look at the numbers. It doesn't add up. Plus the fact that I've never killed a full health heavy with one shot. Can't be done. |
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STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:19:00 -
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Full health and what does 250 plus the damage bonus to sniper rifles that headshots give and weaponry 4, sniper level 3 and the second tier damage modifier equal? |

Chew B0CCA
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:25:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Full health and what does 250 plus the damage bonus to sniper rifles that headshots give and weaponry 4, sniper level 3 and the second tier damage modifier equal?
Not nearly enough to kill a full health heavy. Do we even know what the headshot modifier is? All I know is that I've scoped heavies, had my charge, blasted them in the head, and they walked away. Every. Single. Time. |

STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:27:00 -
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Chew B0CCA wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Full health and what does 250 plus the damage bonus to sniper rifles that headshots give and weaponry 4, sniper level 3 and the second tier damage modifier equal? Not nearly enough to kill a full health heavy. Do we even know what the headshot modifier is? All I know is that I've scoped heavies, had my charge, blasted them in the head, and they walked away. Every. Single. Time. I read it was near 500% but it has to at least be at 300 for me to get that kill |

Chew B0CCA
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:31:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Chew B0CCA wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Full health and what does 250 plus the damage bonus to sniper rifles that headshots give and weaponry 4, sniper level 3 and the second tier damage modifier equal? Not nearly enough to kill a full health heavy. Do we even know what the headshot modifier is? All I know is that I've scoped heavies, had my charge, blasted them in the head, and they walked away. Every. Single. Time. I read it was near 500% but it has to at least be at 300 for me to get that kill
First of all, there's no way it's 500%. No freaking way. The charge, at full spec sans a damage modifier, is 362 (with all your skills leveled 100%). Throw on a damage modifier, and you get to the 400's. I was leveled all the way in everything and shot a heavy in the head, and he did not die.
I've heard it's 2x or 3x, but the point is we don't know. You shot a heavy that was already low on health. |

STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:32:00 -
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Chew B0CCA wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Chew B0CCA wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Full health and what does 250 plus the damage bonus to sniper rifles that headshots give and weaponry 4, sniper level 3 and the second tier damage modifier equal? Not nearly enough to kill a full health heavy. Do we even know what the headshot modifier is? All I know is that I've scoped heavies, had my charge, blasted them in the head, and they walked away. Every. Single. Time. I read it was near 500% but it has to at least be at 300 for me to get that kill First of all, there's no way it's 500%. No freaking way. The charge, at full spec sans a damage modifier, is 362 (with all your skills leveled 100%). Throw on a damage modifier, and you get to the 400's. I was leveled all the way in everything and shot a heavy in the head, and he did not die. I've heard it's 2x or 3x, but the point is we don't know. You shot a heavy that was already low on health. It had full health |

Leither Yiltron
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:34:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Leither Yiltron wrote:This thread is 100% pointless. Do you think just maybe the person who has the assault rifle might just be better than the guy padding his stats with a tank?
We're done here. Please tell me MLG PRO Goonswarm, how your ar should gank tanks like scouts
You flatter me. I didn't think I'd see the day when an STB member was noble enough to lay a direct compliment on someone from KEQ. |

Chew B0CCA
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:35:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Chew B0CCA wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Chew B0CCA wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Full health and what does 250 plus the damage bonus to sniper rifles that headshots give and weaponry 4, sniper level 3 and the second tier damage modifier equal? Not nearly enough to kill a full health heavy. Do we even know what the headshot modifier is? All I know is that I've scoped heavies, had my charge, blasted them in the head, and they walked away. Every. Single. Time. I read it was near 500% but it has to at least be at 300 for me to get that kill First of all, there's no way it's 500%. No freaking way. The charge, at full spec sans a damage modifier, is 362 (with all your skills leveled 100%). Throw on a damage modifier, and you get to the 400's. I was leveled all the way in everything and shot a heavy in the head, and he did not die. I've heard it's 2x or 3x, but the point is we don't know. You shot a heavy that was already low on health. It had full health
OK, well you're the first person I've heard of doing it. I've never done it. Even with the charge, it takes a few shots to down a heavy. If you're going body shots, it can take 4 or 5 at least. |

STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:36:00 -
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Maybe it took damage as soon as i shot it? |

Chew B0CCA
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:37:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Maybe it took damage as soon as i shot it?
Maybe. Don't know. All I know is that I've tried many times, and I've never been able to do it. Props to you if you could, but it seems strange given the numbers and my experience. |

STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:38:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Leither Yiltron wrote:This thread is 100% pointless. Do you think just maybe the person who has the assault rifle might just be better than the guy padding his stats with a tank?
We're done here. Please tell me MLG PRO Goonswarm, how your ar should gank tanks like scouts You flatter me. I didn't think I'd see the day when an STB member was noble enough to lay a direct compliment on someone from KEQ. I look forward to meet you on the field, time to dust off my smg |
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Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:42:00 -
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I'm BHD (Better Hide or Die)! Oooo!
Still.. This thread took a curve ball to the face. Ha! |

STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:44:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:
I'm BHD (Better Hide or Die)! Oooo!
Still.. This thread took a curve ball to the face. Ha!
I though you was RIB (Rolling in black ops hav) |

Rorek IronBlood
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:47:00 -
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Never touch tanks. ;p
Besides R.I.B are my initials. Ha-ha. Still that was funny. |

STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 05:49:00 -
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Rorek IronBlood wrote:
Never touch tanks. ;p
Besides R.I.B are my initials. Ha-ha. Still that was funny.
If you did, you'd eat forge rounds all day NOT! |

Kane Fyea
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.17 06:46:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Kane Fyea wrote:Scholar Him wrote:Agreed. The vast majority of players I run into are all using assault rifles. They need to increase the spread on those guns. They have everything going for them, and really no drawback. No drawback? How about you try and use one and not run out of ammo really quickly. It's called aiming, try it sometimes Well I tend not to die too often since I know how to play. Its not aiming its simply that you run out of ammo. |

ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS
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Posted - 2012.09.17 11:52:00 -
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Read your OP, and some of the other garbage posts but couldn't be bothered to read all as what I read was banal. In answer to your OP, AR's have been nerfed and so have assault suits. So yet another post from the uninformed.  |

Alhanna Ridgeway
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:55:00 -
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If they've been nerfed it wasn't to the level they have nerfed everything else. |

Mobius Wyvern
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:57:00 -
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Why not just make weapons with unique attribute sets and selectable fire modes? Whenever you try and make a weapon with only one fire mode, balancing it with others of the same "class" starts to become an issue. |

STB Vermaak Doe
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:57:00 -
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Alhanna Ridgeway wrote:If they've been nerfed it wasn't to the level they have nerfed everything else. When was the last time you've seen someone die by a breach ar |

Cross Atu
Conspiratus Immortalis
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Posted - 2012.09.17 21:59:00 -
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STB Vermaak Doe wrote:Alhanna Ridgeway wrote:If they've been nerfed it wasn't to the level they have nerfed everything else. When was the last time you've seen someone die by a breach ar
Less than 12 hours ago (just before last downtime), on the "cramped" city scape map. Deathmatch play not objectives. |
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