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Alhanna Ridgeway wrote:

Is the community systematically trying to get everything to just be Assault Rifles

Ive seen Tank Nerfs, Dropship Nerfs, callings for a Shotgun and Sniper Rifle Nerf, Forge Gun Nerfs, Remote Explosives Nerfs, and I saw a Terrain Nerf thread today.

What the **** are you trying to do? If you want everyone to run around with an AR please go play another damn game. Get the hell out of this one, let this one be different for people who are tired of playing COD, BF3, and any other bunny hopping, buddy butt fuc king, spray and pray, ****** ass game. For the love of god everyone does not want to play that ****. It's boring and the same thing we've been playing for years. I want something different, something I have to think about, strategize with a team, play as a team, I don't want to see everyone running around with the same damn weapon. I want to see tanks, and bombers, and ships, and fighter jets, snipers, mortar teams, artillery, all that ****. I want to feel like Im in a battle, not like Im on a damn paintball field. I can go play paintball anytime if I want to. When I play a game I want something else.

I know everyone thinks they are God's Gift to FPS. I know everyone thinks they are the best player in the whole world, and that sniper can't possible be better than you. That tank driver can't possibly be better than you cause you use a fuc king AR. I know you think you're King **** because you use an AR, but you aren't, the tank driver and sniper just might happen to be smarter, or just want to play something different, or dare I say it better than you. I know it's hard for gamers to admit they aren't the best player at that particular game, but if you keep dieing to something, maybe it isn't OP, maybe you just suck. I know I know, how can I say that, we're all top 10 material, that's why there are 1000 entries on the leaderboards, I know none of us can possibly be worse than someone else.

So my question, once everyone is running with just assault rifles, what are you gonna nerf next? Suits? Or perhaps we'll start nerfing individual playstations, maybe the top 100 players should have a 3 second delay in there commands, make them less OP? Or perhaps we should make all their inputs backwards? Yes Yes that sounds good.

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STB Vermaak Doe 558	Posted - 2012.09.17 22:03:00 - [61] - Quote Cross Atu wrote: STB Vermaak Doe wrote: Alhanna Ridgeway wrote: If they've been nerfed it wasn't to the level they have nerfed everything else. When was the last time you've seen someone die by a breach ar Less than 12 hours ago (just before last downtime), on the "cramped" city scape map. Deathmatch play not objectives. Caught of guard, reloading, etc?
Cross Atu Conspiratus Immortalis 775	Posted - 2012.09.17 22:08:00 - [62] - Quote STB Vermaak Doe wrote: Cross Atu wrote: STB Vermaak Doe wrote: Alhanna Ridgeway wrote: If they've been nerfed it wasn't to the level they have nerfed everything else. When was the last time you've seen someone die by a breach ar Less than 12 hours ago (just before last downtime), on the "cramped" city scape map. Deathmatch play not objectives. Caught of guard, reloading, etc? Honestly I've no idea it was just in the death marquee up in the corner. Also can't vouch for the comparative skills of the players involved. The last time I got killed by one was while reloading (as Logi) and injured. Same game too so maybe the guy running it was a "poacher" (not bad as a practice I suppose but does carry different implications than if the weapon was in a firefight). For the record I wasn't saying that they hadn't been nerfed, just responding to the direct question.
V3r1745 Luxmea Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 2	Posted - 2012.09.17 22:10:00 - [63] - Quote Alhanna Ridgeway wrote: Is the community systematically trying to get everything to just be Assault Rifles Ive seen Tank Nerfs, Dropship Nerfs, callings for a Shotgun and Sniper Rifle Nerf, Forge Gun Nerfs, Remote Explosives Nerfs, and I saw a Terrain Nerf thread today. What the ** are you trying to do? If you want everyone to run around with an AR please go play another damn game. Get the hell out of this one, let this one be different for people who are tired of playing COD, BF3, and any other bunny hopping, buddy butt fuc king, spray and pray, ** ass game. For the love of god everyone does not want to play that . It's boring and the same thing we've been playing for years. I want something different, something I have to think about, strategize with a team, play as a team, I don't want to see everyone running around with the same damn weapon. I want to see tanks, and bombers, and ships, and fighter jets, snipers, mortar teams, artillery, all that . I want to feel like Im in a battle, not like Im on a damn paintball field. I can go play paintball anytime if I want to. When I play a game I want something else. I know everyone thinks they are God's Gift to FPS. I know everyone thinks they are the best player in the whole world, and that sniper can't possible be better than you. That tank driver can't possibly be better than you cause you use a fuc king AR. I know you think you're King ** because you use an AR, but you aren't, the tank driver and sniper just might happen to be smarter, or just want to play something different, or dare I say it better than you. I know it's hard for gamers to admit they aren't the best player at that particular game, but if you keep dieing to something, maybe it isn't OP, maybe you just suck. I know I know, how can I say that, we're all top 10 material, that's why there are 1000 entries on the leaderboards, I know none of us can possibly be worse than someone else. So my question, once everyone is running with just assault rifles, what are you gonna nerf next? Suits? Or perhaps we'll start nerfing individual playstations, maybe the top 100 players should have a 3 second delay in there commands, make them less OP? Or perhaps we should make all their inputs backwards? Yes Yes that sounds good. I support this.
STB Vermaak Doe 558	Posted - 2012.09.17 22:11:00 - [64] - Quote Tbh last week i got killed while reloading and injured prior to investing in sidearm reload speed. It felt like a minute was taken for me to die un the dragonfly suit
TEBOW BAGGINS FIREFLY ATLANTIS ENTERPRISES UNLIMITED TACNET 549	Posted - 2012.09.17 22:49:00 - [65] - Quote the dropship nerf was needed.. those that actually can fly them now are proud of their ability to do so. the dropships in last build were a joke. basically a tank that flew like one.
XxVic1ouSxX OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 3	Posted - 2012.11.30 08:19:00 - [66] - Quote Alhanna Ridgeway wrote: Way to not run out of ammo quickly, don't miss, don't just hold the trigger down, no spraying and praying. Yes Maybe the AR guy is better than the tank driver, maybe, however most battles are won by brains kid. And you have a serious intelligence deficiency if you are shooting a tank with an AR, which I have seen way too much of. I can use an AR fairly well. I just need to train some AR skills to catchup, however, I prefer driving my tank. Should my playing experience be lessened because I choose not to run around with an AR? Is an Assault guys time or effort worth more than mine? Is it wrong to not want to be a bunny hopping ******? I think not. Oh and I forgot Grenade and SMG Nerfs, Ive seen those as well. Which also brings me to think that the people calling for the tank nerf, were the same retards shooting my tank with an AR? I mean did you really expect that to work? Ill gladly pay for you some M16 rounds, we'll drive to a military base, and Ill let you shoot 1000 rounds at a real tank, and we'll see how much damage you do it. Im betting the bullet will ricochet back and kill you before that tank blows up, actually I know that'll happen first, and that isn't likely to happen either. Oh and you do realize that with suits there should be a give and take. Scouts should do more damage because they have less HP than the other 3 suits....and work your way up from there. On the reverse of that, if you're breaking the role of your suit you should get murdered. IE a scout suit with an AR in CQC. The scout should get murdered, however, if he keeps his distance and takes the time to snipe you, then yes you should be dead. id just like to say some people like myself like to mess with tanks with the AR just to get him to start shooting and slow its advance so people with AV grenades swarms and forge guns could come up behind them and take them out ive done it alot of times
The dark cloud Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 1060	Posted - 2012.11.30 08:53:00 - [67] - Quote STB Vermaak Doe wrote: We don't joke about lamposts last build. Bye bye logi lav... Speaking about lamposts. I havent seen any 1 off them on the 4 point map. You see what you people did there? You complained so long about lamposts and now they are all gone! I demand that lamposts coming back. If not so then remove the tactical AR from the marketplace cause that thing is OP just like the lampost.
Kazeno Rannaa Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 145	Posted - 2012.11.30 15:44:00 - [68] - Quote Scholar Him wrote: Agreed. The vast majority of players I run into are all using assault rifles. They need to increase the spread on those guns. They have everything going for them, and really no drawback. Well in a game that has skills associated with the weapons we use, and if everyone is using the weapons, that could mean that ALSO everyone is putting their hard earned SP into the skills associated with their favorite weapon. Listen, there are a number of us not wanting all this nerfing to be going on since we are only dealing with a limited version of the market and we really don't have all of the racial variants available. Things will be doing 1080 barrel rolls when we are hit with the beginning of total racial variants available on market. And then the NERFING will commence. This does seem to be the build of the AR, specifically the Tactical AR. I mean hell, where is my STORMSIDE RODEN????? Why do the freaks playing KBM get all the fun???? Really, on a more serious note, we nee to get the DEVS to release more stuff on the market and as players with an incomplete list of weapons and market items should be concentrating on the basic play mechanics, I.E., the hit box, occlusion of the terrain upon the player hit box, the clipping and clashing of models with the terrain and the environment, the memory bleeds due to coding errors, and, OH YEA, how about the map generator. The thing is that all of the COD, BF3 and other shite fanboi's are, as the originator of this post suggested, are attempting to make this game another shite clone that would have been flushed int he reality of it's very existence. So if you want to play those games, be my guest. I don't. I want to play DUST. So don't start trying to port over that crap onto here. Leave the balancing issues alone for a sec right now and get the basic mechanics dialed in. Then you can open up the market and START to work on the balancing issues with a complete market (or at the very least what will be available upon the release).
Super Cargo Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 428	Posted - 2012.11.30 17:46:00 - [69] - Quote ARs are the best and should always be the best. In every game, what do competitive players use? The assault rifle. Why? because it is the most effective in a very diverse role. That's why it's better, and that's why it widely used. Last time I checked tanks, orbital strikes, dropships, and LAVs could mow through AR users like butter. So what are you complaining about again? idiot
DarkShadowFox Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 238	Posted - 2012.11.30 17:59:00 - [70] - Quote Super Cargo wrote: ARs are the best and should always be the best. In every game, what do competitive players use? The assault rifle. Why? because it is the most effective in a very diverse role. That's why it's better, and that's why it widely used. Last time I checked tanks, orbital strikes, dropships, and LAVs could mow through AR users like butter. So what are you complaining about again? idiot Um Because when people get killed by people with tons of money I think flooding from even and all people do are fit higher level guns and when new players come in and get killed it makes it kinda hard? I guess. I dunno there are some guns that are ridiculous. If that graphical error was worked out (which it wont be) people wouldnt complain about being across the map shot by snipers. But I feel that most people that complain Run militia fits, I know myself that I run militia fits because I dont earn enough money to run higher fits and also im more trying to Spec into vehicles since weapons are all but ironed out save for a few things here and there. Honestly, Lets stop focusing on the guns, fix the swarm launcher paths so they dont go around cover... >.>; Other than that, Vehicles are my focus, I could care less if I spend a dime of ISK this build on guns, I havent, this build was vehicles for me soo.. in light of that. Although assault rifles are a diverse gun with multiple roles, outside of the assault rifle there is not a match. Not even the submachine guns come close, its almost like its just the assault rifle. Hence why you see people sniping alot because outside of the assault rifle there is just no other match really. Even shot guns are horribly inaccurate. I mean I guess if I was playing this game as a whole and not seeing it through the beta i would be able to adapt, but wow, what I have experienced here, I dunno its, kinda incredible.

Super Cargo Osmon Surveillance Caldari State 428	Posted - 2012.11.30 18:06:00 - [71] - Quote DarkShadowFox wrote: Although assault rifles are a diverse gun with multiple roles, outside of the assault rifle there is not a match. Not even the submachine guns come close, its almost like its just the assault rifle. Hence why you see people sniping alot because outside of the assault rifle there is just no other match really. SMGs are a side arm and are meant to be used in CQC versus a single target. Snipers are for long range damage against infantry. Shotguns are for clearing out rooms and large groups of people in CQC. Forge guns are (in theory) for taking down vehicles and clearing out groups of people. My point is that all of these weapons have a specific role. DUST shouldn't be balanced so that all weapons are equally viable in all situations. ARs are the go-to weapon in shooters because they cover a lot of ground between long range and short range. That's just the way shooters are and it is also the way shooters should be.
semperfi1999 Internal Error. Negative-Feedback 317	Posted - 2012.11.30 19:20:00 - [72] - Quote I have 25 proto breach ARs that I am putting as my main weapon for my militia suits since I got all of these from salvage. Personally I would much rather sell them but since we dont have that option and since I already have a ton of wasted suits........ I have 25 ADV and 25 proto logi suits I have 30 proto and 15 ADV Heavy suits I have 20 proto scout suits and like 10 adv scout I have like 3-4 1mil ISK tank bodies that I cant use not including the less costly tank bodies I have a ton of drop ships and proto/adv LAVs I cant use......... Jeez I feel like I won the lottery when I get 5 adv AV nades because I know I will use those eventually. Or hey ADV assault or proto suits are amazing too.
Sir Petersen Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation 112	Posted - 2012.11.30 20:12:00 - [73] - Quote The assault rifles are nicely balanced and need no change. CCP are on the right track with this game.
Sentient Archon Red Star. 690	Posted - 2012.11.30 20:15:00 - [74] - Quote Alhanna Ridgeway wrote: Is the community systematically trying to get everything to just be Assault Rifles Ive seen Tank Nerfs, Dropship Nerfs, callings for a Shotgun and Sniper Rifle Nerf, Forge Gun Nerfs, Remote Explosives Nerfs, and I saw a Terrain Nerf thread today. What the ** are you trying to do? If you want everyone to run around with an AR please go play another damn game. Get the hell out of this one, let this one be different for people who are tired of playing COD, BF3, and any other bunny hopping, buddy butt fuc king, spray and pray, ** ass game. For the love of god everyone does not want to play that . It's boring and the same thing we've been playing for years. I want something different, something I have to think about, strategize with a team, play as a team, I don't want to see everyone running around with the same damn weapon. I want to see tanks, and bombers, and ships, and fighter jets, snipers, mortar teams, artillery, all that . I want to feel like Im in a battle, not like Im on a damn paintball field. I can go play paintball anytime if I want to. When I play a game I want something else. I know everyone thinks they are God's Gift to FPS. I know everyone thinks they are the best player in the whole world, and that sniper can't possible be better than you. That tank driver can't possibly be better than you cause you use a fuc king AR. I know you think you're King ** because you use an AR, but you aren't, the tank driver and sniper just might happen to be smarter, or just want to play something different, or dare I say it better than you. I know it's hard for gamers to admit they aren't the best player at that particular game, but if you keep dieing to something, maybe it isn't OP, maybe you just suck. I know I know, how can I say that, we're all top 10 material, that's why there are 1000 entries on the leaderboards, I know none of us can possibly be worse than someone else. So my question, once everyone is running with just assault rifles, what are you gonna nerf next? Suits? Or perhaps we'll start nerfing individual playstations, maybe the top 100 players should have a 3 second delay in there commands, make them less OP? Or perhaps we should make all their inputs backwards? Yes Yes that sounds good. This +1
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 1058	Posted - 2012.12.01 04:08:00 - [75] - Quote I have a feeling a "nerf scrambler pistols" thread will be coming up. Just went 17-3 with an advanced one. Probably at least 10 of these kills were AR users. Even though I have scrambler pistol operation IV, sidearm sharpshooter IV, and sidearm rapid reload II, people think ARs should automatically beat me just because I'm using a sidearm. Hell, I even outranged them sometimes.
Belzeebub Santana SVER True Blood Unclaimed. 409	Posted - 2012.12.01 04:25:00 - [76] - Quote Ok who the EFF is bringing up three month old threads this is like the 4 th today!
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2012.12.11 05:13:00 - [77] - Quote Just about every thing in this gane is where it should be wte of ars tho standard md could use a nerf and advance and proto a buff. Tanks could use equalizing it always either you snezze at them and they explode or OMGWTF why wont it just die. Small blasters could use a buff. As could missle damage but splash is just about where it should be maybe a slight buff. Rails could use a small splash increase. Smgs are fine but might need a nerf when hit detection is fixed we'll see. Sg are perfect tho I havent really played with them. LR issituational but bad ass. Hmgs should be left alone at least till hit detection is fixed. Snipers probobly the same as hmgs but will Probobly need some shot sway. Pisols are freaking awsome and should be left alone maybe a reduced fire rate to prevent abuse by turbo controlers. Did I miss anything? Meh my two cents as if any one cares.
Sandromin Hes Sand Mercenary Corps Inc. 204	Posted - 2012.12.11 05:17:00 - [78] - Quote Buff all the guns? Buff ALL the guns!
Elijah Sol' Dzusaki Onward Defrosted Tuna Team 485	Posted - 2012.12.11 05:20:00 - [79] - Quote Sandromin Hes wrote: Buff all the guns? Buff ALL the guns! Yes, OHK's for EVERYONE.
fred orpaul Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising 211	Posted - 2012.12.11 05:43:00 - [80] - Quote Elijah Sol' Dzusaki wrote: Sandromin Hes wrote: Buff all the guns? Buff ALL the guns! Yes, OHK's for EVERYONE. HMG = win button?? that or scout with smg.



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