I have not had a chance to play with these new changes but from what I gather in the dev post and the replies in this thread is that and tank is going to not be a one man job anymore...I know, kinda obvious because that is exactly what wolfman said.

However, I don't think a lot of people realize the vision CCP has for tanks. I am in no way affiliated with CCP nor to I frequent the IRC and thus have no other knowledge or accreditation besides wasting too much of my valuable work time on these forums. Alas I give you what I think is CCP's vision for tanks.

~One driver (required)
~Two turret operators inside the tank
~A logi on the ground fighting with an AR/SMG and armor repping when necessary
~An assault or heavy (or both) to help keep the logi alive and keep back AV troops tossing nades and shooting forge/swarm.
~IMO, they want a tank to be a vessel that is supported by a whole squad and it will also take a whole squad to bring it down.

(I know points may seem obvious [or completely wrong] but I can't help but read the banter on the forums and think that others truly do not understand the end game here. When you watch CCP produced videos, look that the multiple tanks rolling up to an objective with a dozen infantry troops right next to them.)

This damage buff is probably temporary until they fix the bugs.

He mad

HAV's are now useless expensive deathtraps that can take max 3-4 hits from a milita swarm launcher before going down. Also 0 chance of getting away as they turn slower than dogturds in molassas.

Once again CCP ruins gameplay because LAZY people can't be bothered to learn how to counter/defend themselves.

This is asinine. The health makes it so support doesn't even matter.

Whiners will always win - see politics. Instead of making semi plausible facilities that give a reason for mechanized and traditional infantry (and coincidentally a place for the hybrid mtac) we are turning them into juggernaut suits with special weapons designed for soloing them. Not fun for either side.

Can't get away from them now.

I just tried it out, go look for yourself.

You should be one to talk all STB runs is tanks.

So your mad that you cant go 25 and 0 in a match with a single tank?

But that was choice. STB can shoot people without tanks too. 3 years of MAG experience. I've fought against them or 2.

Lowering health does not make a HAV a squad tool. I am sorry if you don't agree.

Oh please like it is so bad.

I just got out of a match where i genuinely went AV because there were 3 tanks spawned. Between them not holding still and Sleepy Zan sniping, the tanks stayed alive through out the game. That coupled with the fact that half the missals are autistic and AV grenades working 1:3 times I can safely say that if you are crying you just flat out suck at life.

Firstly, use the correct version of you're. Secondly, no. Kdr doesn't matter to me. What matters is that the tank has a measure of survivability, which with a quadruple nerf it has gone down significantly.

Lol well i gota rethink my dropship fittings thats for sure . I'm dieing ALot now lolz.

(Side note, a week or so ago there was a prominent tank player on my team so I decide to jump in his tank to see what he has on it, try and learn a few things as I usually try and hunt him with my squad (doing a little reconnaissance) and what do I find but an awesome main turret for him to use and two literal pea shooters on the small turrets. I have to assume this is for two reasons, one to deter people from catching a free ride and stealing his kills and two Maybe...maybe he doesn't have the PG/CPU for better small turrets? Seemed like he was geared for a solo operation to me.)

Yay for whiners. We get things done!
A) (whining is purely perspective based. Chances are if you're saying "whiner won" then you lost.)

B) Dropship people, how would it be if you had more CPU/PG to fit more interesting options? Would that help at all? Or do we need chaff launchers / PDS to deal with incomming swarms? Forgeguns should wipe you out tbh... But I doubt there's much

C) Anyone thinking about MTACs, they will have weak points too, and hopefully be able to get knocked down (really, bipedal mechs? Stupid stupid stupid.)

HAV's are now useless expensive deathtraps that can take max 3-4 hits from a milita swarm launcher before going down. Also 0 chance of getting away as they turn slower than dogturds in molassas.

Once again CCP ruins gameplay because LAZY people can't be bothered to learn how to counter/defend themselves.

Hi everyone,

We have been listening to the feedback regarding vehicles and AV gameplay, particularly the HAVGÇÖs, after our last update. IGÇÖm happy to tell you we have spent some time looking over the data, discussing the issues, and making a number of changes we would like you to help us try out.

The changes are aimed at reducing the overall power of the HAVGÇÖs and their ability to solo without consequences on the battlefield. We do want the HAVGÇÖs to be powerful but we also want them to require more support from both their gunners and friendly infantry to reach their full potential on the battlefield.

To this end we will be streaming in the following changes, getting your feedback and looking at the resulting stats to gauge the overall impact the changes have on the effectiveness of the HAV.

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These will of course not be the last updates in this area, we are working on more as we speak.

Cheers

CCP Wolfman