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pew pew youredead
What The French
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Posted - 2012.09.14 12:45:00 -
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Tyas Borg wrote:So all the militia swarm whiners got what they wanted. So sad CCP...
Perhaps if people who actually were any good at AV posted here we wouldn't have situations like this. I foresee this being a huge ongoing issue now that CCP have shown they listen to clueless whiners who refuse to adapt.
There's literally 3 people I know of in the entire player base who actually understand how to kill tanks. That would be the dark cloud, Pessley Mcdoff and his mate Kain.
These 3 guys are about the only people who's views I'd respect on this matter as nobody else was ever smart enough to counter me on foot. I'll also add that 2 of these guys are insane with the old Forge guns, so you've just pretty much killed any tank on the US server buffing them imo.
Are people really that niave that they don't know if I zoom in on them it tells me their loadout?. Seeing a Shock - Heavy is a turkey shoot and the 3 guys I mentioned are the only ones smart enough it seems to make a proper AV spec.
The rest of you deserved to die, horribly.
Time to spec into proto AR's and thukkers I guess. Might as well make you all whine about something else now instead ;). Hell it sounds like RE's are gonna be back in full effect lol.
i told you to enjoy that tank nerf didn't i? of course you don't wanna take responsibility in this whole thing, nah? when you and your buddies camp spawns after taking the three points and have 5 tanks camping the respawn, without anyone of us being able to do something about you will still say "train your AV skills"? your tanks were OP, just accept that fact that one guy in armor could change the balance without needing much skill (look at me i'm rolling with my tank in your base) and Reward/Risk was very poor because nothing can kill you, so now you will have to do like the rest of us AV people and DEAL WITH IT |
Paran Tadec
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.14 12:56:00 -
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pew pew youredead wrote:Tyas Borg wrote:So all the militia swarm whiners got what they wanted. So sad CCP...
Perhaps if people who actually were any good at AV posted here we wouldn't have situations like this. I foresee this being a huge ongoing issue now that CCP have shown they listen to clueless whiners who refuse to adapt.
There's literally 3 people I know of in the entire player base who actually understand how to kill tanks. That would be the dark cloud, Pessley Mcdoff and his mate Kain.
These 3 guys are about the only people who's views I'd respect on this matter as nobody else was ever smart enough to counter me on foot. I'll also add that 2 of these guys are insane with the old Forge guns, so you've just pretty much killed any tank on the US server buffing them imo.
Are people really that niave that they don't know if I zoom in on them it tells me their loadout?. Seeing a Shock - Heavy is a turkey shoot and the 3 guys I mentioned are the only ones smart enough it seems to make a proper AV spec.
The rest of you deserved to die, horribly.
Time to spec into proto AR's and thukkers I guess. Might as well make you all whine about something else now instead ;). Hell it sounds like RE's are gonna be back in full effect lol. i told you to enjoy that tank nerf didn't i? of course you don't wanna take responsibility in this whole thing, nah? when you and your buddies camp spawns after taking the three points and have 5 tanks camping the respawn, without anyone of us being able to do something about you will still say "train your AV skills"? your tanks were OP, just accept that fact that one guy in armor could change the balance without needing much skill (look at me i'm rolling with my tank in your base) and Reward/Risk was very poor because nothing can kill you, so now you will have to do like the rest of us AV people and DEAL WITH IT
Another whiner claiming tanks were unkillable before. Wheres the proof? |
Skihids
Tritan-Industries Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.14 14:42:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote: Another whiner claiming tanks were unkillable before. Wheres the proof?
Anything is killable, the point is that they are big fat supery heavy suits that one man can use to outrun a Scout and out DPS a Heavy. With the old model the main gun was good for AV and infantry and you could run and strafe with the ease of an Asault suit.
So yes, three AV suits with proto swarms could take you out, but that's:
1) A Three to one personel advantage for your team. 2) Putting those three AV guys in a position of vulnerability to infantry, requireing further support from their team.
So it takes a team of five from the opposing team all using great teamwork to equal one man in a tank. Drop three tanks and you have used up the entire opposing team while leaving thirteen of your guys to rampage on the ground.
That's the balance issue.
Tanks should be strong, but they shouldn't be a one man do everything fat suit. Making the main gun an artilary piece good against other armor and installations but not so effective against infantry is a great balance move. You can still get a missile or blaster gunner in your tank to cover you. Now it starts to require teamwork to run a tank. |
Ima Leet
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.14 15:08:00 -
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i agree with it for the time being. as CCP is testing things right now.. cause ya'know.. this IS a beta. i'm tired of the tank ****, more people need to PTFO and stop being scared of tanks. this just brings tanks back on our level. now i can stop using my tank so much... that ish gets old. and whats up with no one ever wanting to get out of your tank to do anything? there needs to be a force eject and seat lock mechanic to control that. 'kick'-get out of my tank and hack that objective 'lock'-you can't get back in until its done. |
D'Finn Rhedlyne
Planetary Response Organisation Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2012.09.14 15:22:00 -
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^^ THIS!!!
Period.
Move on to another post, nothing to see here! |
Whispercrow
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.14 17:29:00 -
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The only real tank nerf of consequence would be splitting the driver and cannon gunner into seperate posititions. |
EnglishSnake
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.14 17:46:00 -
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https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=36452&find=unread
I think overall it could become a overnerf tbh, espc with the turrert nerf and then added on splash radius/damage nerf |
pew pew youredead
What The French
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Posted - 2012.09.14 21:07:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:pew pew youredead wrote:Tyas Borg wrote:So all the militia swarm whiners got what they wanted. So sad CCP...
Perhaps if people who actually were any good at AV posted here we wouldn't have situations like this. I foresee this being a huge ongoing issue now that CCP have shown they listen to clueless whiners who refuse to adapt.
There's literally 3 people I know of in the entire player base who actually understand how to kill tanks. That would be the dark cloud, Pessley Mcdoff and his mate Kain.
These 3 guys are about the only people who's views I'd respect on this matter as nobody else was ever smart enough to counter me on foot. I'll also add that 2 of these guys are insane with the old Forge guns, so you've just pretty much killed any tank on the US server buffing them imo.
Are people really that niave that they don't know if I zoom in on them it tells me their loadout?. Seeing a Shock - Heavy is a turkey shoot and the 3 guys I mentioned are the only ones smart enough it seems to make a proper AV spec.
The rest of you deserved to die, horribly.
Time to spec into proto AR's and thukkers I guess. Might as well make you all whine about something else now instead ;). Hell it sounds like RE's are gonna be back in full effect lol. i told you to enjoy that tank nerf didn't i? of course you don't wanna take responsibility in this whole thing, nah? when you and your buddies camp spawns after taking the three points and have 5 tanks camping the respawn, without anyone of us being able to do something about you will still say "train your AV skills"? your tanks were OP, just accept that fact that one guy in armor could change the balance without needing much skill (look at me i'm rolling with my tank in your base) and Reward/Risk was very poor because nothing can kill you, so now you will have to do like the rest of us AV people and DEAL WITH IT Another whiner claiming tanks were unkillable before. Wheres the proof?
ask CCP to check their databases whinetard |
Whispercrow
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2012.09.15 00:19:00 -
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English Snake, check my post at the end of Page 3. Most of those 'nerfs' really aren't all that bad, or will be correctible with mods later down the line (ie: the turret rotation one). |
HowDidThatTaste
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
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Posted - 2012.09.15 03:46:00 -
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Well day one with the tank nerf and honestly I had some of the most fun if had in a while nit getting blasted form across the map. I even saw some great team work taking shape on the field by infantry. Tanks were still out in mass and doc holiday and I did get one with our forge guns but I think he was asleep at the wheel.
All in all I think once the tank drivers adjust to the new build they will enjoy it too.
I mean who really thinks going 40+0 every game is that much fun.
I saw some of the good tank drivers already adapting and making loops around the map at a nice clip and still ending the batlle with decent numbers and there tank intact.
The good will survive! the one hit I win button pushers will complain. And move onto the next easy kill mode,
Not sure if anyone noticed this build but most of the top tank drives were the RE exploiters of the last build? |
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Jexct Doc
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.15 03:59:00 -
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I like armor tanks. I was riding around in one. We would get low and I would just hop out and rep. Mmmm points.
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pew pew youredead
What The French
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Posted - 2012.09.16 06:48:00 -
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HowDidThatTaste wrote:Well day one with the tank nerf and honestly I had some of the most fun if had in a while nit getting blasted form across the map. I even saw some great team work taking shape on the field by infantry. Tanks were still out in mass and doc holiday and I did get one with our forge guns but I think he was asleep at the wheel.
All in all I think once the tank drivers adjust to the new build they will enjoy it too.
I mean who really thinks going 40+0 every game is that much fun.
I saw some of the good tank drivers already adapting and making loops around the map at a nice clip and still ending the batlle with decent numbers and there tank intact.
The good will survive! the one hit I win button pushers will complain. And move onto the next easy kill mode,
Not sure if anyone noticed this build but most of the top tank drives were the RE exploiters of the last build? this post is so full of truth |
Sparten 269
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2012.09.16 06:55:00 -
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Renato Crusher wrote:I predict we'll see plenty of HAV's making heavy use of covering terrain, as there was no speed nerf in the hotfix notes.
Tanks became obsolete in less than a day, so yeah no one drives a tank anymore.
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