Well we won't know until we try. That's what this beta s about. I am willing to sacrifice a few tanks to try to make the game enjoyable again. The splash damage reduction will go a long way in making it feel right. The forge gun back to normal is a bonus. Remember other suits and guns have had huge nerfs so it is the tanks turn. The nice thing is that ccp listened


Tomorrow will be a tank feast boys!

As a tank driver i'm pretty fine with this if people would stop being derps and actually get in my tank. Though I am a little annoyed with even further slowed turn rate on my turrets, that's going to become a pain in the ass, especially since there is such a huge penalty on the stabilized railgun anyhow. This isn't even so much about shooting things as it is spacial awareness. Though ambush tactics will be interesting. Then again alot of us tank drivers were considering swapping to dropships anyhow :p

i really like those changes, especially the turret turning speed as this will make the blaster better for anti personal and make the rail gun worse at it, like it is meant to.

i was thinking of the next build going to swarms as my proto forge wasnt that great but we shall see tonight :)

I already have to turn the tank in addition to the turret to be effective with the turret, which causes me to sacrifice mobility for accuracy

Oh noes! That's so terrible you can't have perfect accuracy at full speed.

These tweaks seem like the right direction, I was just in a match and me and 4-6 other heavy's were constantly unloading our swarms to one single tank (luckily one of my teammates had one of those ammo-drop things). When it looked like the tanks health was lowering, it crept behind a mountain, out of reach, repaired itself, or got repaired, then returned to the same ol' same ol'. It was simply taking out people freshly spawning onto the objective, such a cowardly thing to do.

Anywho, nothing our swarms did made any difference at all. This literally went on the the entire match, then finally some troops decided to come in and try to take the objective we were holding at (B). Funnily enough, by the time they attempted to take the objective, the game was over and we had one.

I got virtually no SP and went something like 1 and 4, but it was sure a testament to the tanks OP nature in the current build. Even 4-6 of us heavies + swarms, working in tandem and as a team, with ammo replenishment, could not take out a single tank. Ridiculous. Tank operator went 20-0.

So that said, I am looking forward to this next update, hopefully it balances things out a bit.

Apparently, what I'm reading in this thread, is if you have lots of people who have little to no skill spent in Swarm Launchers that the tanks are near invincible, but if you have a single person who has a decent amount of development in Swarms then tanks go down quickly. You guys have to make up your minds if you're going to try to make a solid argument here.

So all the militia swarm whiners got what they wanted. So sad CCP...

Perhaps if people who actually were any good at AV posted here we wouldn't have situations like this. I foresee this being a huge ongoing issue now that CCP have shown they listen to clueless whiners who refuse to adapt.

There's literally 3 people I know of in the entire player base who actually understand how to kill tanks. That would be the dark cloud, Pessley Mcdoff and his mate Kain.

These 3 guys are about the only people who's views I'd respect on this matter as nobody else was ever smart enough to counter me on foot. I'll also add that 2 of these guys are insane with the old Forge guns, so you've just pretty much killed any tank on the US server buffing them imo.

Are people really that niave that they don't know if I zoom in on them it tells me their loadout?. Seeing a Shock - Heavy is a turkey shoot and the 3 guys I mentioned are the only ones smart enough it seems to make a proper AV spec.

The rest of you deserved to die, horribly.

Time to spec into proto AR's and thukkers I guess. Might as well make you all whine about something else now instead ;). Hell it sounds like RE's are gonna be back in full effect lol.

Forge gun sniping \o/

Also drop ships are never going to be used again

Afterburners/Fusion Accelerators on top of having Flares/Chaff will make them godly. Just watch.

So all the militia swarm whiners got what they wanted. So sad CCP...

Perhaps if people who actually were any good at AV posted here we wouldn't have situations like this. I foresee this being a huge ongoing issue now that CCP have shown they listen to clueless whiners who refuse to adapt.

There's literally 3 people I know of in the entire player base who actually understand how to kill tanks. That would be the dark cloud, Pessley Mcdoff and his mate Kain.

These 3 guys are about the only people who's views I'd respect on this matter as nobody else was ever smart enough to counter me on foot. I'll also add that 2 of these guys are insane with the old Forge guns, so you've just pretty much killed any tank on the US server buffing them imo.

Are people really that niave that they don't know if I zoom in on them it tells me their loadout?. Seeing a Shock - Heavy is a turkey shoot and the 3 guys I mentioned are the only ones smart enough it seems to make a proper AV spec.

The rest of you deserved to die, horribly.

Time to spec into proto AR's and thukkers I guess. Might as well make you all whine about something else now instead ;). Hell it sounds like RE's are gonna be back in full effect lol.