It's time for you to answer this CCP.
Please say something because the entire world knows Dust 514 is a poor FPS: the NDA din't work, nor the journalist made positive previews so you must address this.


Oh, and I am not trolling, I am serious.

Gunplay thread

Please see this thread and add to discussion.

Thanks.

I disagree Iron Wolf Sabre, once you get into CS you realize that there's a reason the game has lasted for more than a decade. It has flawless balance, except for 2 weapons, the AWP and Deagle, which require accuracy and are only dominant in their particular ranges. Also, the map design is some of the best and it has a fun factor that currently is much higher than Dusts.

Look, we're comparing 14 year old games in some cases. If the beta isn't as good as a 14 year old game which could run on p100mhz processor, thete's something wrong. How much longer do YOU think this should be a beta for? Another 6 months? A year? Well?

@24million Iron Wolf
Check steams stats. There's always more CS players than all the CoDs combined. CoD probably sold more, but that's like saying WoW>EvE. It's just wrong :P

I asked a serious question.
I AM SERIOUS.

Now let's be serious and wait for CCP to answer.
No comments, no provocations: I just want an answer.

CCP can you fix the gameplay or not?

Can you explain what's broken? Outside the hit detection, memory leaks, lag, stability, lack of optimizatoin and character mobility model?

I am quite serious.

What's the point of a thread like this ? Can you ask a carpenter to "fix" a house that's being built ? I understand your question was serious, but your reflexion lacks.

Most people here are frustrated because they are hurried to see this game achieve its initial promise, and play it as it should be played. It's a classic case of loving the form against hating the function.

Don't you think CCP is quite aware of the challenges they have in making this game ? Do you actually believe the devs don't know that there are still numerous bugs and fixes to be applied ?

Or do you think that by reminding CCP to "please fix gameplay" they'll slap their foreheads and go "Oh shoot, thanks, we forgot" ?

Be patient, soldier. Keep reporting those bugs and help shape this game the way you see it GÇö as we all do. When it comes out you'll be glad you were there.

Serious Tryhards would have bothered leaving a post worthy of a dozen likes.

In the mechanic is something very wrong. I can't say what it is. Its just feels blunt, playing the game does not feel cocnnectet, its like we play in a viscous atmosphere where every thing is wrapped. Yesterday I played a little Killzone2. I remember this game as a "boring-action" but playing it after I use to Dust this game (Killzone2) feels like a manifestation.
My curiosity force me to put BF3 back in to the PS3 and holyf*ck, let me tell you it feels so great.
The game mechanic needs a lot more improvement.

I'm not talking about the concept, this posting is dedicated only to the feeling of the mechanic.

Only FPS I've enjoyed since Bad company 2, Duke Nukem, and if you want to include it, Savage 2, and I've played the first BC, BF3, any CoD that isn't MW3, CS, Combat Arms, avoided any of the other CoDs I.E, Killzones.

Both Bad company and Duke Nukem, were played solely to **** around on, and brought me the most fun I`ve had in any game. This, for playing properly, is just as good.

Only major issues I see,

Tank = God
Dropship = God
Modules don`t do enough. They need to make it more about who can design a fitting better than who can run `n` gun better.
Logistics can take on every role
DC's
Invalid Fittings

Even Latency issues, and hit detection are working great at this point, anybody that's been complaining either has a garbage connection or can't aim.

Frame rate, lag, invalid, hard freezes an somehow making "players" play the game right. It's quite a big ask. Then there balancing latency. Which is a no :p
Ping > Skill
(all FPS games are this way)

To use you analogy I am asking if CCP CAN fix the foundation of this "house" because we are now at the at the 10th floor and the building is already falling apart.
It's all about making this "house" not fall when people will enter it.

Second if CCP is aware then why they keep going in the wrong direction and keep adding more "floors" to this house.

People here need to know if this game is still worth testing or it's a lost cause.
We asked for moths and now answer came.

I never noticed a keyboard and mouse player standing out of the crowd.

I did, i use to have a average K/D ratio about 1,3 depending on FPS.
It was about the same in Dust to, now I'm at 0,8. I play always a "logistic" or a class who comes next to it.
(I have a lot of other indications)

BTW there is another problem, the problem being a logistic ( its a ccp wide problem, in eve online logic have a hard time as well).


1. It is tacking way to long to receive the points for repairing, repairing a Scout or a Assault is "pointless" (haha you get the wordplay?). Repairing makes only sense on a heavy or on a vehicle.
2. The second problem is that the unit you try to repair don't know that there is some one behind trying to help. So the very most people just runs out of your range.
3. Mini Map. it would be great if other players who are damaged could see remote armor repair units on the field.
4. Nano Injectors. Well ... Nano Injectors did work yes, but its hard as **** to get them in the person i like to revive. I would be nice if you could just hammering this thing right in to the one ling to your feet without making the "holy crap where the **** is this right spot dance" which looks like diarrhea to other who watching it.
5. Drop suits should get bonuses like 5% per skill on rap, or hacking speed, own repair amount, you could separate this between the races.
6. Leader-boards. Well this problem is in EVE very similar, the logistics don't get the tribute they should get. All you see is a top leader on the board who killed a lot of people without dying, but you don't see that there are three logis behind him, doing their best to keep him alive. More esteem for the logic would be nice. May be a support tap on the leader-board.

The leader/squad management is broken as well.

I did, i use to have a average K/D ratio about 1,3 depending on FPS.
It was about the same in Dust to, now I'm at 0,8. I play always a "logistic" or a class who comes next to it.
(I have a lot of other indications)

BTW there is another problem, the problem being a logistic ( its a ccp wide problem, in eve online logic have a hard time as well).


1. It is tacking way to long to receive the points for repairing, repairing a Scout or a Assault is "pointless" (haha you get the wordplay?). Repairing makes only sense on a heavy or on a vehicle.
2. The second problem is that the unit you try to repair don't know that there is some one behind trying to help. So the very most people just runs out of your range.
3. Mini Map. it would be great if other players who are damaged could see remote armor repair units on the field.
4. Nano Injectors. Well ... Nano Injectors did work yes, but its hard as **** to get them in the person i like to revive. I would be nice if you could just hammering this thing right in to the one ling to your feet without making the "holy crap where the **** is this right spot dance" which looks like diarrhea to other who watching it.
5. Drop suits should get bonuses like 5% per skill on rap, or hacking speed, own repair amount, you could separate this between the races.
6. Leader-boards. Well this problem is in EVE very similar, the logistics don't get the tribute they should get. All you see is a top leader on the board who killed a lot of people without dying, but you don't see that there are three logis behind him, doing their best to keep him alive. More esteem for the logic would be nice. May be a support tap on the leader-board.

The leader/squad management is broken as well.

We made threads about that, and much more, and CCP didn't answer.
We elaborated and they din't answer.

This time I put things simply and you tell me to elaborate.

Did you search my feedback or not anyway?

this is it ! I'm not going to play this game as long as there is no new build.
My PS3 crashed today after a battle inthe loading time, it takes the ps3 way to long to boot again.

i'm a little scared with there crashes.

It's time for you to answer this CCP.
Please say something because the entire world knows Dust 514 is a poor FPS: the NDA din't work, nor the journalist made positive previews so you must address this.


Oh, and I am not trolling, I am serious.

If you feel that way.... go to another game.... why stay with DUST 514 if you really feel that way?

Console Gamers are not use to crashes, because a good product just don't crash and Dust is the first Game that makes my PS3 do it in 5 years.