The militia tanks are not BPOs, they require re-purchasing each destruction.

That said: They are too powerful, or perhaps AV weaponary is too weak.

6 tanks went boom yesterday when I discovered how nice it was to out a Swarm Launcher, Nanohive, and SMG on an Assault suit.

6 tanks went boom yesterday when I discovered how nice it was to out a Swarm Launcher, Nanohive, and SMG on an Assault suit.

.... when you discorvered... so you sayin you dropped 6 tanks wigth a crap militia swarm in one game... either those tanks just sat there or you full of it

Tanks can be killed, but by a single guy it is tough. It is especially tougher when the said tank can be out of your line of sight but is still raining down area of effect damage or some **** around a corner... and the only way you can hurt him is to head on face the tank and propbably get blapped after the first or second shot... The best luck I have had with killing them is to get the av nades, hope to hell I can manage to stay alive behind my wall, drop nano hive and just keep ducking in and out.. most of the time getting the tank to half shield then being blasted by the railgun, but sometimes succesful destruction after I have managed to throw 6-8 av nades on it. Why can they hide behind areas in mountains that we can not get a direct line of sight on yet they can blap everything from all over the map is what I dont get, tanks that get all up in the mix and close dont bother me as much as the ones who hide and reap the benifits of wtf blast radius behind and over stuff damage.

Tanks -are- over-powered in this build. It's just that simple. AV Nerf probably didn't help anything but in the last build at least things were somewhat balanced, there's no reason a Militia Tank should be able to be dropped (for free, after the base price has been paid) constantly, and than be an automatic victory for the team.

I personally advocated that tanks were -not- over-powered in the last build because they weren't, but this build things have just spiraled out of control. I suppose this is the definition of irony.

To drive the point home - with militia tanks being free and for the moment very difficult to kill (forge gun taking a few -magazines- instead of a few -shots-) a single player can drop a well fitted tank upwards of three or four times and allow his entire team to use them.

To this end, multiple tanks can sit and watch the objectives, effectively preventing any access to it by superior firepower with little threat in the way of AV from anything besides another tank - which is unlikely as that amount of firepower early on can wreck the HAV before it even enters the field.

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I am an experienced Surya driver. Some of you may know my name from the last build - and some of you may hate me for it. But when I say that Tanks are currently Over-powered, it's probably true. Defend it as you may with your stories about how you soloed a tank with a forge gun but let's face it, with the amount of ammunition it took you're probably not going to perform that same feat without hitting up a nano-hive or a supply depot, and even then tanks usually stick together so they'd have already caught onto you from the first round you fired.

CCP, it doesn't need to be looked into. The system was fine how it was in the last build and now it's been castrated. I don't honestly disagree, now that I have been enlightened to just how bad it can get, to not having Militia tanks. Honestly - these are weapons that should be paid for time and time again, not a one time purchase that racks in kills and turns tides simply because you put all of your skill-points into Large Hybrid Turrets.

Something is very wrong here and perhaps before coming up with a "hotfix" you should ask your community as to whether or not it's a good idea than blind assumption. This mentality is the exact same thing that led up to the Jita Riots - and it should not require a Jita Riot in order to make something wor

Noc Tempre ran up to my Gunnlogi.
Noc in a scout suit two shotts my gunnlogi.

I was but, but,but folks said swarms are useless AV this build!!

OH and hurry the hell up with friendly fire, bet they wont sit there shooting all over the place when they are dropping thier own guys left and right from just trying to bomb everything.

The only reason it was different was because there were hundreds of idiots running around with free tanks. Now people design their tanks properly, and know what they are doing before they waste 700k isk on a tank.

2 shot you say? Sir you are exaggerating. 2 shots is at most 3775, if your tank doesn't have that much Hp then you are a tool and ...a dumb kitten.

My tank has 3500 with two reppers and some plate resists.
Noc shot my tank from a foot away.

So any help on tank fits??

I tried nanofibre to make it faster but it just dies faster.
I tried four shield resists.

Now my only hope is to try and skill up for -25% shield resists, a heavy shield extender and hopefully some nanofibre to make it faster.
Then if I still die in a Sagaris instead of gunnlogis then I am just going to say kitten! hav driving and join the scout/take objectives and run from havs club.

I tried nanofibre to make it faster but it just dies faster.
I tried four shield resists.

Now my only hope is to try and skill up for -25% shield resists, a heavy shield extender and hopefully some nanofibre to make it faster.
Then if I still die in a Sagaris instead of gunnlogis then I am just going to say kitten! hav driving and join the scout/take objectives and run from havs club.

I posted in your thread, also, I meant the armor plates.

+3 %25 resist +1 high end dmg control

+3 %25 resist +1 high end dmg control

Are you trying to say use 3 damage resists? If so, read the descriptions of the damage resists.

damage control does not have a resist stack penalty, and the 1st reist will be 25%, 2nd around 19%, 3rd around 14%?

so thats like 58% resist? pluss the damage control. the 3rd resist is NOT pointless

THANKS!!
I am going to skill for that and try it out since HAV driving just has me being very frustrated.

Or you could have an extra few thousand shield, a 25% resist, and extra armor.

Mix tank is a no no bro, sorry to say...

Works perfectly for me. In fact, I'm in an armor tank and rarely lose my shield. And even when I do, I can repair the armor with the armor repairer. 3000 shield, 8000 armor + repairer, and an advanced missile launcher for the main cannon.

But you just said you armor tank o.o...

Back to topic, it does seem a little silly that railguns from tanks fire somewhat quickly now yet forge cannons take 5 to 10 seconds to fire one round. I normally die while trying to power up one shot with a forge. Swarms also have a delay as they have to lock on. Not to mention tanks have rediculous range (been shot through stuff several times in the last week) and there are 3 guns spewing fire with unlimited ammo. Wouldn't be quite so bad if range hadn't also appeared to of been nerfed on the forge cannon where firing from a decent distance causes no damage. The way I see it, there is not even a point in trying to go AV against a tank any more as all I have done is lost ISK when trying to do so. All I do now is avoid the tanks and take objectives elsewhere. I think most have gone to doing this as there is not a point in going AV.

Yes? But with the shield extenders rather than the damage resists, I get a much higher shield.

Word, but thats not necessarily mixing either though.

Yes? But with the shield extenders rather than the damage resists, I get a much higher shield.

So, what the hell is mixing?

I figured it was having shield resistors, shield rechargers, and shield amplifiers all on there at once lol.

Edit: Since you cant necessarily put armor mods where shield mods go.. mixing wouldnt apply there.

Sir have you seen the size difference between a forge gun and a railgun turret?