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OG DonHel
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:05:00 -
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Kengfa wrote:OG DonHel wrote:Kengfa wrote:Garma Denja -0VA wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:I tried nanofibre to make it faster but it just dies faster.
I tried four shield resists.
Now my only hope is to try and skill up for -25% shield resists, a heavy shield extender and hopefully some nanofibre to make it faster.
Then if I still die in a Sagaris instead of gunnlogis then I am just going to say kitten! hav driving and join the scout/take objectives and run from havs club. +3 %25 resist +1 high end dmg control Are you trying to say use 3 damage resists? If so, read the descriptions of the damage resists. damage control does not have a resist stack penalty, and the 1st reist will be 25%, 2nd around 19%, 3rd around 14%? so thats like 58% resist? pluss the damage control. the 3rd resist is NOT pointless Or you could have an extra few thousand shield, a 25% resist, and extra armor.
Mix tank is a no no bro, sorry to say... |
Kengfa
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:13:00 -
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Quote:
Mix tank is a no no bro, sorry to say...
Works perfectly for me. In fact, I'm in an armor tank and rarely lose my shield. And even when I do, I can repair the armor with the armor repairer. 3000 shield, 8000 armor + repairer, and an advanced missile launcher for the main cannon. |
Garma Denja -0VA
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:14:00 -
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Kengfa wrote:Quote:
Mix tank is a no no bro, sorry to say...
Works perfectly for me. In fact, I'm in an armor tank and rarely lose my shield. And even when I do, I can repair the armor with the armor repairer. 3000 shield, 8000 armor + repairer, and an advanced missile launcher for the main cannon.
But you just said you armor tank o.o... |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:15:00 -
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Back to topic, it does seem a little silly that railguns from tanks fire somewhat quickly now yet forge cannons take 5 to 10 seconds to fire one round. I normally die while trying to power up one shot with a forge. Swarms also have a delay as they have to lock on. Not to mention tanks have rediculous range (been shot through stuff several times in the last week) and there are 3 guns spewing fire with unlimited ammo. Wouldn't be quite so bad if range hadn't also appeared to of been nerfed on the forge cannon where firing from a decent distance causes no damage. The way I see it, there is not even a point in trying to go AV against a tank any more as all I have done is lost ISK when trying to do so. All I do now is avoid the tanks and take objectives elsewhere. I think most have gone to doing this as there is not a point in going AV. |
Kengfa
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:16:00 -
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Garma Denja -0VA wrote:Kengfa wrote:Quote:
Mix tank is a no no bro, sorry to say...
Works perfectly for me. In fact, I'm in an armor tank and rarely lose my shield. And even when I do, I can repair the armor with the armor repairer. 3000 shield, 8000 armor + repairer, and an advanced missile launcher for the main cannon. But you just said you armor tank o.o...
Yes? But with the shield extenders rather than the damage resists, I get a much higher shield. |
Garma Denja -0VA
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:17:00 -
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Nomed Deeps wrote:Back to topic, it does seem a little silly that railguns from tanks fire somewhat quickly now yet forge cannons take 5 to 10 seconds to fire one round. I normally die while trying to power up one shot with a forge. Swarms also have a delay as they have to lock on. Not to mention tanks have rediculous range (been shot through stuff several times in the last week) and there are 3 guns spewing fire with unlimited ammo. Wouldn't be quite so bad if range hadn't also appeared to of been nerfed on the forge cannon where firing from a decent distance causes no damage. The way I see it, there is not even a point in trying to go AV against a tank any more as all I have done is lost ISK when trying to do so. All I do now is avoid the tanks and take objectives elsewhere. I think most have gone to doing this as there is not a point in going AV.
Sir have you seen the size difference between a forge gun and a railgun turret? |
Garma Denja -0VA
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:17:00 -
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Kengfa wrote:Garma Denja -0VA wrote:Kengfa wrote:Quote:
Mix tank is a no no bro, sorry to say...
Works perfectly for me. In fact, I'm in an armor tank and rarely lose my shield. And even when I do, I can repair the armor with the armor repairer. 3000 shield, 8000 armor + repairer, and an advanced missile launcher for the main cannon. But you just said you armor tank o.o... Yes? But with the shield extenders rather than the damage resists, I get a much higher shield.
Word, but thats not necessarily mixing either though. |
Kengfa
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:18:00 -
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Garma Denja -0VA wrote:Kengfa wrote:Garma Denja -0VA wrote:Kengfa wrote:Quote:
Mix tank is a no no bro, sorry to say...
Works perfectly for me. In fact, I'm in an armor tank and rarely lose my shield. And even when I do, I can repair the armor with the armor repairer. 3000 shield, 8000 armor + repairer, and an advanced missile launcher for the main cannon. But you just said you armor tank o.o... Yes? But with the shield extenders rather than the damage resists, I get a much higher shield. Word, but thats not necessarily mixing either though.
So, what the hell is mixing? |
Seran Jinkar
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:20:00 -
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We all know the skill it takes to drive a tank. It's the skill NOT to drive into the red zone. After sniping the driver before he could get into his ship I jumped into his gunloggi with 5k+ shields and another guy from the random suqad jumped at the controls while I got the blaster in front (yay!). well we continued to roll through enemy tanks and AV nades and swarm launchers until my random buddy decided to run the tank into red zone and suicide us all. Well apart from putting expensive stuff into your tank the actual driving and shooting didn't seem to be that difficult. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
L.O.T.I.S.
Legacy Rising
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:20:00 -
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Kengfa wrote:Garma Denja -0VA wrote:Kengfa wrote:Quote:
Mix tank is a no no bro, sorry to say...
Works perfectly for me. In fact, I'm in an armor tank and rarely lose my shield. And even when I do, I can repair the armor with the armor repairer. 3000 shield, 8000 armor + repairer, and an advanced missile launcher for the main cannon. But you just said you armor tank o.o... Yes? But with the shield extenders rather than the damage resists, I get a much higher shield.
I am tagging this as favorite due to all the learning I am getting from this thread.
Oh and like.
Thanks!
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Garma Denja -0VA
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:21:00 -
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Kengfa wrote:
So, what the hell is mixing?
I figured it was having shield resistors, shield rechargers, and shield amplifiers all on there at once lol.
Edit: Since you cant necessarily put armor mods where shield mods go.. mixing wouldnt apply there. |
OG DonHel
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:28:00 -
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Garma Denja -0VA wrote:Kengfa wrote:
So, what the hell is mixing?
I figured it was having shield resistors, shield rechargers, and shield amplifiers all on there at once lol. Edit: Since you cant necessarily put armor mods where shield mods go.. mixing wouldnt apply there.
Mix tanking is shield and armor, sorry for confusion caused |
Garma Denja -0VA
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.09.05 14:33:00 -
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I just figured everyone tanked with both their shields o.O |
Nomed Deeps
The Exemplars
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Posted - 2012.09.06 15:08:00 -
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Garma Denja -0VA wrote:Nomed Deeps wrote:Back to topic, it does seem a little silly that railguns from tanks fire somewhat quickly now yet forge cannons take 5 to 10 seconds to fire one round. I normally die while trying to power up one shot with a forge. Swarms also have a delay as they have to lock on. Not to mention tanks have rediculous range (been shot through stuff several times in the last week) and there are 3 guns spewing fire with unlimited ammo. Wouldn't be quite so bad if range hadn't also appeared to of been nerfed on the forge cannon where firing from a decent distance causes no damage. The way I see it, there is not even a point in trying to go AV against a tank any more as all I have done is lost ISK when trying to do so. All I do now is avoid the tanks and take objectives elsewhere. I think most have gone to doing this as there is not a point in going AV. Sir have you seen the size difference between a forge gun and a railgun turret?
Yes, I have but that doesn't explain the severe mismatch between both. The way the forge cannon has been nerfed, there's no way to take out the higher end tank even with several allies using them. There are those that say to use grenades (mostly tank drivers I suspect) but most tanks do not ever get within grenade range. Therefore, infantry have nothing currently to counter tanks which I think makes tanks slightly broken; not OP but no way to counter them. Right now, one higher end tank slightly overpowers a match and with two or more, there's no reason to even stay in the match, allied or friendly as the tanks will be taking all of the kills. You can outmaneuver tanks in Skirmish but when you get into a fire fight in Ambush, the tanks roll in for an easy kill. Forge guns need to go back to the way they were to properly counter tanks. |
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