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Elijah Revan
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:32:00 -
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Come on! I understand all of the CoD fags getting mad because " O I cnt keel tanc with dah missile esy so dis game is dumb " lol, there tanks.... there suppose to be hard to kill, not to mention they cost a ton of Kredits.
My Solution - Don't do anything to the tanks, just let there be more ways to kill the tanks, and make heavy suits stronger so they can withstand more. Not to mention i recommend people who want to go AV to start actually training AV instead of using militia swarm launchers.... i have 3,000,000+ SP in vehicles, and i still lose a tank every once in a while. If someone kills a tank... or helps kill one.... bravo, let them have a kitten ton of ISK after the match. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:34:00 -
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I call 6 tanks on ambush vs 12 people a problem. |
Elijah Revan
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:35:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I call 6 tanks on ambush vs 12 people a problem.
i understand that there should be a tank limit in the future... but remember, its a beta, when full release comes out, there will be ALLOT more players on a MUCH LARGER map... |
Omnipotent lilmamaj
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
205
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:40:00 -
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Elijah Revan wrote:Come on! I understand all of the CoD fags getting mad because " O I cnt keel tanc with dah missile esy so dis game is dumb " lol, there tanks.... there suppose to be hard to kill, not to mention they cost a ton of Kredits.
My Solution - Don't do anything to the tanks, just let there be more ways to kill the tanks, and make heavy suits stronger so they can withstand more. Not to mention i recommend people who want to go AV to start actually training AV instead of using militia swarm launchers.... i have 3,000,000+ SP in vehicles, and i still lose a tank every once in a while. If someone kills a tank... or helps kill one.... bravo, let them have a kitten ton of ISK after the match. COD players don't play this game Heavy suits were strong a long time ago, that didn't work There are so many people who use proto AV gear, it barely matters, the tanks will take you out before you get a lock on you are a huge nub tbqh |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:41:00 -
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I'd say making another thread about tanks. A problem..
you just commented on a thread about tanks, can't we keep things together or do you have to have your own thread about it? |
The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
373
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:43:00 -
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I seriously don't understand why people are having such a huge problem with this....
I take out tanks just fine. Advanced assault forge gun, plain old AV grenades, tier 1 heavy suit, submachine gun. I do enough damage to tanks to be able to take them out in the long run of things. Don't jack-assedly run straight at the tank and think you'll be coming out on top. And don't give me the "range is crap!" line either. Suck it up, do your job as AV, unless you haven't specced into it; in that case, don't expect to do much but scratch the paint job. |
W0olley
Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation
242
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:43:00 -
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It's much easier to spec into HAV's then it is AV. If someone wants to go the route to be a full AV player they are pretty much useless if there are no vehicles around which makes it a lot less desirable to spend your SP on while with a tank you can spawn it in in almost any situation and you'll get a ton of points for doing it and instant gratification.
Tanks having a high ISK cost isn't enough to justify how powerful they are because any semi-competent person will be able to roll around in a tank and manage to not get it destroyed enough to make a pretty profit off of it.
Right now there is no negatives for going the HAV route which is a problem whether you want to admit it or not.
P.S. every time you bring in CoD to try and justify your position you just sound like a moron. |
Eddie Boirelle
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
43
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:47:00 -
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I actually managed to kill a tank last match... I was driving and went into an unsafe area, best way to kill them |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:48:00 -
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next time you cover stivie like a ***** that cant aim ill go all out on her.
im tired of you lot covering each other.
without teamplay.
next tim i see any given because she a she ill go x10. |
Iron Wolf Saber
BetaMax.
2867
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:50:00 -
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Elijah Revan wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I call 6 tanks on ambush vs 12 people a problem. i understand that there should be a tank limit in the future... but remember, its a beta, when full release comes out, there will be ALLOT more players on a MUCH LARGER map...
Beta is for identifying problems like these before they hit launch. Either way the hostiles called down 10 total for the match, we only mangaed to get 4 and they called muraders after the first wave we downed. |
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Shadows Maker
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
129
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:51:00 -
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can we stop Tank vs AV threads till the patch drop it is pointless to argue when they clearly addressed the problem and there are changes in the way so wait for the fixes then start testing again |
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
173
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:52:00 -
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people keep saying av takes more sp than tanks....
simply not true. |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:53:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Elijah Revan wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I call 6 tanks on ambush vs 12 people a problem. i understand that there should be a tank limit in the future... but remember, its a beta, when full release comes out, there will be ALLOT more players on a MUCH LARGER map... Beta is for identifying problems like these before they hit launch. Either way the hostiles called down 10 total for the match, we only mangaed to get 4 and they called muraders after the first wave we downed.
you got problems. and you know it.
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RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:54:00 -
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STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:people keep saying av takes more sp than tanks....
simply not true.
after you get into a nice fit tank, SP rolls at you like never before. and ISK.
So it might not take as much SP, it does take longer. |
Ignatius Crumwald
Sanmatar Kelkoons Minmatar Republic
475
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:55:00 -
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The fact is that right now tanks have no real place in the game. They're nothing more than overpriced, game breaking, nuisances that interrupt the enjoyable infantry exchanges.
If they took them out of the game entirely it would improve the gameplay experience of 90% of the player base. |
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
173
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:55:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:people keep saying av takes more sp than tanks....
simply not true. after you get into a nice fit tank, SP rolls at you like never before. and ISK. So it might not take as much SP, it does take longer.
completely different things. tanks still do, and will always require more sp. |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:56:00 -
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STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:people keep saying av takes more sp than tanks....
simply not true.
stfu and just enjoy the time you got left.
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The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
373
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:58:00 -
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W0olley wrote:It's much easier to spec into HAV's then it is AV. If someone wants to go the route to be a full AV player they are pretty much useless if there are no vehicles around which makes it a lot less desirable to spend your SP on while with a tank you can spawn it in in almost any situation and you'll get a ton of points for doing it and instant gratification.
Tanks having a high ISK cost isn't enough to justify how powerful they are because any semi-competent person will be able to roll around in a tank and manage to not get it destroyed enough to make a pretty profit off of it.
Right now there is no negatives for going the HAV route which is a problem whether you want to admit it or not.
P.S. every time you bring in CoD to try and justify your position you just sound like a moron.
While I do agree to some degree with what you're saying (I agree wholeheartedly with the CoD part), I will say that I make enough to cover costs of losing my AV build by destroying the tanks that get called in. I'm not sure why people don't take advantage of the supply depot's ability to allow you to change suits. Quick switch into AV, take out the tank or at least send it running, switch back to whatever you were doing before.
Also, the support skills that seem to be getting ignored here to improve your survivability. Things like Shield Ops/Management/etc, Weaponry, Mechanics, etc. All of this has carried me through fights with tanks and i've come out on top. Not that i'm gloating, i've lost my fair share of AV suits, but i'm not about to lose one fight and then hop on the forums to slather "TANKSOPOMG" everywhere. (not saying anyone in particular is, just in general) |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 20:58:00 -
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Ignatius Crumwald wrote:The fact is that right now tanks have no real place in the game. They're nothing more than overpriced, game breaking, nuisances that interrupt the enjoyable infantry exchanges.
If they took them out of the game entirely it would improve the gameplay experience of 90% of the player base.
your breaking my heart. lurch needs to learn the fps shuffle.
hey m8 dont stand still and let people shoot you in the face. and aim for their face too.
aim !!! |
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
173
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:02:00 -
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your pretty rude, you know that?
last match i took out 5 guys with a militia shotugn in a militia fit on my way to my tank. first 30 seconds of the match. i think my gun game is just fine. late night, im probably not sober, so have at it.
be careful of beating your chest too much. |
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RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:02:00 -
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STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:RolyatDerTeufel wrote:STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:people keep saying av takes more sp than tanks....
simply not true. after you get into a nice fit tank, SP rolls at you like never before. and ISK. So it might not take as much SP, it does take longer. completely different things. tanks still do, and will always require more sp.
while they are different they aren't completely different.
If it takes much longer to go AV infantry fit that has to stay alive from tank fire and infantry fire... to only do damage to a tank, and require more then a squad full of people's efforts just to take the single tank down... that's extremely unbalanced.
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Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:03:00 -
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STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:your pretty rude, you know that?
last match i took out 5 guys with a militia shotugn in a militia fit on my way to my tank. first 30 seconds of the match. i think my gun game is just fine. late night, im probably not sober, so have at it.
be careful of beating your chest too much.
im absolutly obnoxious.im a monkey. only because someone taught me to be like that. you cant dis me macbeth is and was a better player than you. as are , want me to name them all? |
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
173
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:05:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:RolyatDerTeufel wrote:STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:people keep saying av takes more sp than tanks....
simply not true. after you get into a nice fit tank, SP rolls at you like never before. and ISK. So it might not take as much SP, it does take longer. completely different things. tanks still do, and will always require more sp. while they are different they aren't completely different. If it takes much longer to go AV infantry fit that has to stay alive from tank fire and infantry fire... to only do damage to a tank, and require more then a squad full of people's efforts just to take the single tank down... that's extremely unbalanced.
maybe so, but last build and the beginning of this build i rolled an av with a smg backup and did just fine. maybe speccing into an smg and good av grenades before hitting the av wep hard will help with your survivability? might help although i know its tough trying to be a good av guy in pub matches. its certainly something that requires a squad at least. |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:07:00 -
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when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me. |
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:09:00 -
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Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me.
Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious.
If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game. |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:10:00 -
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me. Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious. If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game.
scrub. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:11:00 -
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STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:
maybe so, but last build and the beginning of this build i rolled an av with a smg backup and did just fine. maybe speccing into an smg and good av grenades before hitting the av wep hard will help with your survivability? might help although i know its tough trying to be a good av guy in pub matches. its certainly something that requires a squad at least.
a four man group, is never going to be fitting and specd into AV enough to take the tank down as 4 people fight a 3 manned vehicle... unless made for a corp vs corp battle..
So you see there is something horribly imbalanced already that non-lethal Ewar assets will not be able to balance in an update to come. |
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
173
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:12:00 -
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Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me.
dont bother, id rather have people think i suck |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:16:00 -
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STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me. dont bother, id rather have people think i suck
hmm he's a better player than you any day of the week.
tanks are ok are they lol?
kitten starting with a T miss two T
w a in there. |
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV
Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic
173
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:16:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:
maybe so, but last build and the beginning of this build i rolled an av with a smg backup and did just fine. maybe speccing into an smg and good av grenades before hitting the av wep hard will help with your survivability? might help although i know its tough trying to be a good av guy in pub matches. its certainly something that requires a squad at least.
a four man group, is never going to be fitting and specd into AV enough to take the tank down as 4 people fight a 3 manned vehicle... unless made for a corp vs corp battle.. So you see there is something horribly imbalanced already that non-lethal Ewar assets will not be able to balance in an update to come.
either your highly underestimating the utility ewar will bring or you have zero imagination. |
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