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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:22:00 -
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Cpl Quartz wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me. Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious. If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game. scrub. Jealous much lol
Ill be looking for you in game, Ill come hunting you down to show you who is boss.
Really kid, what are you 5 yrs old.. get a life or don't I don't care. You are a joke of a player if you can't play this easy game.
Like you kids say "come at me bro".. Im waiting. |
DUST Fiend
Immobile Infantry
1903
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:22:00 -
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I smell a tank driver.... |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:24:00 -
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me. Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious. If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game. scrub. Jealous much lol Ill be looking for you in game, Ill come hunting you down to show you who is boss. Really kid, what are you 5 yrs old.. get a life or don't I don't care. You are a joke of a player if you can't play this easy game. Like you kids say "come at me bro".. Im waiting.
im old i cant keep up with you yung uns. your like antipop and look where he is. |
Altman Stormsinger
Doomheim
16
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:25:00 -
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My solution for dealing with tanks?
avoidance. if you are getting mobbed by tanks toss a uplink indoors/ in a place tanks can't go and make them come to you on foot. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:28:00 -
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STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:RolyatDerTeufel wrote:STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:
maybe so, but last build and the beginning of this build i rolled an av with a smg backup and did just fine. maybe speccing into an smg and good av grenades before hitting the av wep hard will help with your survivability? might help although i know its tough trying to be a good av guy in pub matches. its certainly something that requires a squad at least.
a four man group, is never going to be fitting and specd into AV enough to take the tank down as 4 people fight a 3 manned vehicle... unless made for a corp vs corp battle.. So you see there is something horribly imbalanced already that non-lethal Ewar assets will not be able to balance in an update to come. either your highly underestimating the utility ewar will bring or you have zero imagination.
Kidding again right? Ewar will be fragile at best, waiting for something that isn't lethal to balance the lethalness of the weapons we have will get no where fast.
Web grenades can't slow you down to much or it's OP itself, it can't be so weak that tanks stroll through it. and those will also effect infantry to a point to help with scoutsuits.. So it can't be OP in that sense. trying to balance all this when the ewar hopefully comes out with next build will overwhelm the work load more then it needs to be.
Lets balance what we have that can do damage to a tank before adding things in that wont even do damage to it, only make it MARGINALLY "easier" to hit with the damaging AV weapons... |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:28:00 -
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Altman Stormsinger wrote:My solution for dealing with tanks?
avoidance. if you are getting mobbed by tanks toss a uplink indoors/ in a place tanks can't go and make them come to you on foot.
And lose all your objectives because they find your uplink and just camp the exits... smart.. |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:28:00 -
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Altman Stormsinger wrote:My solution for dealing with tanks?
avoidance. if you are getting mobbed by tanks toss a uplink indoors/ in a place tanks can't go and make them come to you on foot.
goons how do you put up with them..........looking at you corp. |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:30:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:Altman Stormsinger wrote:My solution for dealing with tanks?
avoidance. if you are getting mobbed by tanks toss a uplink indoors/ in a place tanks can't go and make them come to you on foot. And lose all your objectives because they find your uplink and just camp the exits... smart..
how about uplink A is camped get it back or. orders to forgert about it. it might me a decoy.
hhmmm many dumbasses here . |
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:33:00 -
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Cpl Quartz wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me. Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious. If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game. scrub. Jealous much lol Ill be looking for you in game, Ill come hunting you down to show you who is boss. Really kid, what are you 5 yrs old.. get a life or don't I don't care. You are a joke of a player if you can't play this easy game. Like you kids say "come at me bro".. Im waiting. im old i cant keep up with you yung uns. your like antipop and look where he is.
God you get worse and worse
Your, You're know the difference between the two?
Now you're trying to act old lol, to late for that one bro. Go back to COD and take your **** poor attitude with you. Buh bye..
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Clone Number 1
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
77
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:33:00 -
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OK tanks are definetly not a problem to spec into I had 650,000 sp laying around so I decided to see how far it would go to spec tanks, I'm in a gunlogi went 4 matches no deaths and I'm sure I have a crappy fit because I don't have a Clue what I'm doing. Let's see 15+ kills myself per match 0 deaths.plus the kills of my gunners.
The splash damage is funny ridiculous just aim in general direction and boink. Now I understand why I get shot through walls we have splash damage that doesn't pertain to any know physics. Especially compared to my grenades that don't even bounce off the ceiling they just fall at my feet. |
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Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:33:00 -
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me. Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious. If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game.
This^^ is one of the reasons people hate STB. Don't be bitches to people, or if you can't do that just stfu. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:36:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me. Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious. If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game. This^^ is one of the reasons people hate STB. Don't be bitches to people, or if you can't do that just stfu.
Hasn't changed, so don't see it changing.
(creepin' on the Logi Bro, cause I need ammo so much ) |
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:39:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me. Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious. If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game. This^^ is one of the reasons people hate STB. Don't be bitches to people, or if you can't do that just stfu.
Usually I don't act this way, but if a player posts enough times and is just talking kitten the whole time, then yes I will counter troll and act like 100% jerk to them.
This player is just another troll who wants to see his name on the forums, he is not actually adding to the conversation at all in any shape or form other then to cause chaos.
But please take his side, its obvious you have read the whole thread and not just one part of it.. face palm.
Have a great rest of your day. :) |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:41:00 -
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Logi Bro wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me. Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious. If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game. This^^ is one of the reasons people hate STB. Don't be bitches to people, or if you can't do that just stfu. Usually I don't act this way, but if a player posts enough times and is just talking kitten the whole time, then yes I will counter troll and act like 100% jerk to them. This player is just another troll who wants to see his name on the forums, he is not actually adding to the conversation at all in any shape or form other then to cause chaos.But please take his side, its obvious you have read the whole thread and not just one part of it.. face palm. Have a great rest of your day. :)
The same thing you were doing as me and your tank friend have a convo about the tanks... |
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:43:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Logi Bro wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me. Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious. If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game. This^^ is one of the reasons people hate STB. Don't be bitches to people, or if you can't do that just stfu. Usually I don't act this way, but if a player posts enough times and is just talking kitten the whole time, then yes I will counter troll and act like 100% jerk to them. This player is just another troll who wants to see his name on the forums, he is not actually adding to the conversation at all in any shape or form other then to cause chaos.But please take his side, its obvious you have read the whole thread and not just one part of it.. face palm. Have a great rest of your day. :) The same thing you were doing as me and your tank friend have a convo about the tanks...
+1 ill give you that one. Ill stop posting if Cpl Quartz does. It is a heck of tank conversation actually.
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The Polish Hammer
Doomheim
373
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:44:00 -
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LOL |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:44:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me. Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious. If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game. This^^ is one of the reasons people hate STB. Don't be bitches to people, or if you can't do that just stfu.
**** you (im risking a ban for thrird offence) its worth it. *******. you know nothing.
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Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:46:00 -
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and you can **** off too stalker polish peoples. sys. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:47:00 -
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^ Above is fact. |
Logi Bro
ZionTCD Legacy Rising
836
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:47:00 -
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STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Logi Bro wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me. Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious. If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game. This^^ is one of the reasons people hate STB. Don't be bitches to people, or if you can't do that just stfu. Usually I don't act this way, but if a player posts enough times and is just talking kitten the whole time, then yes I will counter troll and act like 100% jerk to them. This player is just another troll who wants to see his name on the forums, he is not actually adding to the conversation at all in any shape or form other then to cause chaos. But please take his side, its obvious you have read the whole thread and not just one part of it.. face palm. Have a great rest of your day. :)
*sigh* Let me start this by saying I'm not going to waste my time making another comment if you decide to respond to this, so don't waste your time. FIRST OF ALL my comment didn't have anything to do with the OP, it had to do with your comment, which was bullsh*t spewed from the mouth of a KD/R ***** (I can only assume you are) that is a member of STB, which has bad publicity due to comments like yours. SECOND at what point did I take his side? He was simply a person that got insulted for expressing his opinion and I was expressing MY opinion that you are a complete ****, and surprise surprise, you spewed some more bullsh*t hating on me as well. THIRD good day sir. |
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Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:52:00 -
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lurch i hope i get to try and protect your tank one day and when team damage comes in shoot some of your corp mates in the back of the head.
opps.
ill buy you a new one if i fail. |
Goric Rumis
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
80
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:53:00 -
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STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:maybe so, but last build and the beginning of this build i rolled an av with a smg backup and did just fine. maybe speccing into an smg and good av grenades before hitting the av wep hard will help with your survivability? might help although i know its tough trying to be a good av guy in pub matches. its certainly something that requires a squad at least. Interesting, because I'm finding that the lowest-level tanks are balanced just fine against the appropriate AV (i.e., a little tricky to kill solo but possible), but the higher-level tanks are almost impossible to kill even with several AVs. Could it be you just weren't encountering the high-level tanks early in this build, before people had accumulated enough SP to use them?
I didn't have a problem with vehicles last build either, although it could have just been that they weren't used as much or that people weren't speccing into the high-level HAVs or something. Not sure about that.
Anyway, we'll see the solution they've come up with. It's a complex thing to balance because you're talking about asymmetrical balancing in almost every respect, e.g., risks, costs, weaknesses, team composition, etc. |
STB DEADPOOL5241 EV
Doomheim
352
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:57:00 -
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Logi Bro wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Logi Bro wrote:STB DEADPOOL5241 EV wrote:Cpl Quartz wrote:when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me. Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious. If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game. This^^ is one of the reasons people hate STB. Don't be bitches to people, or if you can't do that just stfu. Usually I don't act this way, but if a player posts enough times and is just talking kitten the whole time, then yes I will counter troll and act like 100% jerk to them. This player is just another troll who wants to see his name on the forums, he is not actually adding to the conversation at all in any shape or form other then to cause chaos. But please take his side, its obvious you have read the whole thread and not just one part of it.. face palm. Have a great rest of your day. :) *sigh* Let me start this by saying I'm not going to waste my time making another comment if you decide to respond to this, so don't waste your time. FIRST OF ALL my comment didn't have anything to do with the OP, it had to do with your comment, which was bullsh*t spewed from the mouth of a KD/R ***** (I can only assume you are) that is a member of STB, which has bad publicity due to comments like yours. SECOND at what point did I take his side? He was simply a person that got insulted for expressing his opinion and I was expressing MY opinion that you are a complete ****, and surprise surprise, you spewed some more bullsh*t hating on me as well. THIRD good day sir.
Please look above at said player I was posting about, this player has been banned 3 times for this. Going on his 4th, so I think IMO that my responses to his comments are justified. Maybe not cool, but justified.
I actually agree my comments are terrible, but you fail to miss my point of asking for K/D/R was to provoke him into a response, which he did. Before you assume I was being a troll of my own, think what I was trying to get from the player.
I appreciate the heads up on how it looks, from the outside looking in, I would have the same opinion of my choice in words. Not trying to be that guy, but sometimes it happens.
Also Ill stop, as this is a good thread about tanks. Thanks, Ill try to have a great day. TY |
Cpl Quartz
127
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Posted - 2012.09.04 21:59:00 -
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Goric Rumis wrote:STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:maybe so, but last build and the beginning of this build i rolled an av with a smg backup and did just fine. maybe speccing into an smg and good av grenades before hitting the av wep hard will help with your survivability? might help although i know its tough trying to be a good av guy in pub matches. its certainly something that requires a squad at least. Interesting, because I'm finding that the lowest-level tanks are balanced just fine against the appropriate AV (i.e., a little tricky to kill solo but possible), but the higher-level tanks are almost impossible to kill even with several AVs. Could it be you just weren't encountering the high-level tanks early in this build, before people had accumulated enough SP to use them? I didn't have a problem with vehicles last build either, although it could have just been that they weren't used as much or that people weren't speccing into the high-level HAVs or something. Not sure about that. Anyway, we'll see the solution they've come up with. It's a complex thing to balance because you're talking about asymmetrical balancing in almost every respect, e.g., risks, costs, weaknesses, team composition, etc.
you make it sound like goingto the moon ffs.its not kitteninfg hard. NO REALLY. |
Wolf Ritter vonKaldari
Zumari Force Projection Caldari State
97
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Posted - 2012.09.04 22:36:00 -
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Altman Stormsinger wrote:My solution for dealing with tanks?
avoidance. if you are getting mobbed by tanks toss a uplink indoors/ in a place tanks can't go and make them come to you on foot. That's kind of difficult when the maps are so open as they are and he can zap you from across the map with one shot. I tried out a militia Sica yesterday, since I hadn't played Dust since before this newest patch was released, as a tier 1 tanks I was one shotting little red chevrons that were barely visible to the naked eye and the only reason I died was because I was unfortunate to run into someone who had tank specced and was running a Gunnlogi. There's no reason one vehicle should be so cheap and be able to steamroll an entire team like that. |
RolyatDerTeufel
D3ath D3alers RISE of LEGION
1648
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Posted - 2012.09.04 22:43:00 -
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RolyatDerTeufel wrote: Ewar will be fragile at best, waiting for something that isn't lethal to balance the lethalness of the weapons we have will get no where fast.
Web grenades can't slow you down to much or it's OP itself, it can't be so weak that tanks stroll through it. and those will also effect infantry to a point to help with scoutsuits.. So it can't be OP in that sense. trying to balance all this when the ewar hopefully comes out with next build will overwhelm the work load more then it needs to be.
Lets balance what we have that can do damage to a tank before adding things in that wont even do damage to it, only make it MARGINALLY "easier" to hit with the damaging AV weapons...
^ convo is open still |
Elijah Revan
88
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Posted - 2012.09.05 00:17:00 -
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DILLIGAD
50
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Posted - 2012.09.05 01:20:00 -
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Elijah Revan wrote:Come on! I understand all of the CoD fags getting mad because " O I cnt keel tanc with dah missile esy so dis game is dumb " lol, there tanks.... there suppose to be hard to kill, not to mention they cost a ton of Kredits.
My Solution - Don't do anything to the tanks, just let there be more ways to kill the tanks, and make heavy suits stronger so they can withstand more. Not to mention i recommend people who want to go AV to start actually training AV instead of using militia swarm launchers.... i have 3,000,000+ SP in vehicles, and i still lose a tank every once in a while. If someone kills a tank... or helps kill one.... bravo, let them have a kitten ton of ISK after the match.
Blew up 3 today so far! Meh! Doink! |
Pezz IsDank
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
171
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Posted - 2012.09.05 01:25:00 -
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Tanks are not a problem....
LOL...
Yah OK, whatever you say dude. I dare CCP to release this game with it's current imbalance with infantry vs tanks, it won't go far. I have no problem taking down cheap and low tier tanks, but well fit marauders are basically invincible from what I've seen. No reason to do bad if you're driving one. Had one of my own last build, was going like 25-0+ every match even against really good infantry players, could take a whole squad of aggro and get away no problem and retreat to another part of the map and be ready for more kills with basically full EHP.
Now AV stuff has been nerfed...
Even easier now I suppose which is ridiculous xD |
Pezz IsDank
Pink Fluffy Bounty Hunterz RISE of LEGION
171
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Posted - 2012.09.05 01:42:00 -
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STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:RolyatDerTeufel wrote:STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:RolyatDerTeufel wrote:STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:people keep saying av takes more sp than tanks....
simply not true. after you get into a nice fit tank, SP rolls at you like never before. and ISK. So it might not take as much SP, it does take longer. completely different things. tanks still do, and will always require more sp. while they are different they aren't completely different. If it takes much longer to go AV infantry fit that has to stay alive from tank fire and infantry fire... to only do damage to a tank, and require more then a squad full of people's efforts just to take the single tank down... that's extremely unbalanced. maybe so, but last build and the beginning of this build i rolled an av with a smg backup and did just fine.
Well, that really doesn't say much tbh.
Early on in the builds most people don't have super tanks, and everyone has got low tier gear for the most part. You were probably just destroying weak low tier tanks. I run militia AV and have only had a few hour long gaming sessions in this build, I have blown up a handful of weaker tanks but the well fit marauders are on a completely different level. They really do require a squad + to focus on them, and they probably still won't do much good against it unless they have good AV gear and the right circumstances are met. Even then I think the tank driver could get away unless they stick around too long.
Not too hard to realize when you're in a bad area with a tank anyway, just by the rate of incoming damage. With a well fit marauder you got plenty of time to get away. Missile launchers on tanks are so lethal against infantry that I never really budged when seeing a squad full when I was in mine the last build because I could easily kill a couple right off the bat, and no way would 2 people using SL's be able to destroy my marauder lol.
Now it's even more imbalanced with AV nerfs? It worries me to see other players state that there isn't a problem here. I'm sure CCP knows what they're doing though and changes will be made, I hear the AV nerf is only temporary anyway.
When you have such a high % of people saying there's a problem and most of the defenders are people that exploit that problem.. it's likely that there's a problem.
I do expect tank lovers to express the opposite opinion though, I mean I get it, easy kills for you guys, your only real threat is other tanks unless you've got a crap tank. I stand against imbalances though, even if it puts something I use in the spotlight for re-balancing because a win, and a good score means so much more when it's done on even terms. |
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