I call 6 tanks on ambush vs 12 people a problem.

Come on! I understand all of the CoD fags getting mad because " O I cnt keel tanc with dah missile esy so dis game is dumb " lol, there tanks.... there suppose to be hard to kill, not to mention they cost a ton of Kredits.

My Solution - Don't do anything to the tanks, just let there be more ways to kill the tanks, and make heavy suits stronger so they can withstand more. Not to mention i recommend people who want to go AV to start actually training AV instead of using militia swarm launchers.... i have 3,000,000+ SP in vehicles, and i still lose a tank every once in a while. If someone kills a tank... or helps kill one.... bravo, let them have a kitten ton of ISK after the match.

i understand that there should be a tank limit in the future... but remember, its a beta, when full release comes out, there will be ALLOT more players on a MUCH LARGER map...

Beta is for identifying problems like these before they hit launch. Either way the hostiles called down 10 total for the match, we only mangaed to get 4 and they called muraders after the first wave we downed.

people keep saying av takes more sp than tanks....

simply not true.

after you get into a nice fit tank, SP rolls at you like never before. and ISK.

So it might not take as much SP, it does take longer.

people keep saying av takes more sp than tanks....

simply not true.

It's much easier to spec into HAV's then it is AV. If someone wants to go the route to be a full AV player they are pretty much useless if there are no vehicles around which makes it a lot less desirable to spend your SP on while with a tank you can spawn it in in almost any situation and you'll get a ton of points for doing it and instant gratification.

Tanks having a high ISK cost isn't enough to justify how powerful they are because any semi-competent person will be able to roll around in a tank and manage to not get it destroyed enough to make a pretty profit off of it.

Right now there is no negatives for going the HAV route which is a problem whether you want to admit it or not.


P.S. every time you bring in CoD to try and justify your position you just sound like a moron.

The fact is that right now tanks have no real place in the game. They're nothing more than overpriced, game breaking, nuisances that interrupt the enjoyable infantry exchanges.

If they took them out of the game entirely it would improve the gameplay experience of 90% of the player base.

completely different things. tanks still do, and will always require more sp.

your pretty rude, you know that?

last match i took out 5 guys with a militia shotugn in a militia fit on my way to my tank. first 30 seconds of the match. i think my gun game is just fine. late night, im probably not sober, so have at it.

be careful of beating your chest too much.

while they are different they aren't completely different.

If it takes much longer to go AV infantry fit that has to stay alive from tank fire and infantry fire... to only do damage to a tank, and require more then a squad full of people's efforts just to take the single tank down... that's extremely unbalanced.

when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me.

Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious.

If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game.

maybe so, but last build and the beginning of this build i rolled an av with a smg backup and did just fine. maybe speccing into an smg and good av grenades before hitting the av wep hard will help with your survivability? might help although i know its tough trying to be a good av guy in pub matches. its certainly something that requires a squad at least.

when i see your good ill tell you so . this game bores me.

dont bother, id rather have people think i suck

a four man group, is never going to be fitting and specd into AV enough to take the tank down as 4 people fight a 3 manned vehicle... unless made for a corp vs corp battle..

So you see there is something horribly imbalanced already that non-lethal Ewar assets will not be able to balance in an update to come.

scrub.

Jealous much lol

Ill be looking for you in game, Ill come hunting you down to show you who is boss.

Really kid, what are you 5 yrs old.. get a life or don't I don't care. You are a joke of a player if you can't play this easy game.

Like you kids say "come at me bro".. Im waiting.

either your highly underestimating the utility ewar will bring or you have zero imagination.

My solution for dealing with tanks?

avoidance. if you are getting mobbed by tanks toss a uplink indoors/ in a place tanks can't go and make them come to you on foot.

My solution for dealing with tanks?

avoidance. if you are getting mobbed by tanks toss a uplink indoors/ in a place tanks can't go and make them come to you on foot.

And lose all your objectives because they find your uplink and just camp the exits...
smart..

im old i cant keep up with you yung uns. your like antipop and look where he is.

Anyone wanna look on the leader boards and tell me where this player is, just curious.

If the game bores you then either you are terrible at it (my guess) or you are new and can't get with the game.

This^^
is one of the reasons people hate STB.
Don't be bitches to people, or if you can't do that just stfu.

This^^
is one of the reasons people hate STB.
Don't be bitches to people, or if you can't do that just stfu.

Usually I don't act this way, but if a player posts enough times and is just talking kitten the whole time, then yes I will counter troll and act like 100% jerk to them.

This player is just another troll who wants to see his name on the forums, he is not actually adding to the conversation at all in any shape or form other then to cause chaos.

But please take his side, its obvious you have read the whole thread and not just one part of it.. face palm.

Have a great rest of your day. :)

The same thing you were doing as me and your tank friend have a convo about the tanks...

This^^
is one of the reasons people hate STB.
Don't be bitches to people, or if you can't do that just stfu.

Usually I don't act this way, but if a player posts enough times and is just talking kitten the whole time, then yes I will counter troll and act like 100% jerk to them.

This player is just another troll who wants to see his name on the forums, he is not actually adding to the conversation at all in any shape or form other then to cause chaos.

But please take his side, its obvious you have read the whole thread and not just one part of it.. face palm.

Have a great rest of your day. :)

maybe so, but last build and the beginning of this build i rolled an av with a smg backup and did just fine. maybe speccing into an smg and good av grenades before hitting the av wep hard will help with your survivability? might help although i know its tough trying to be a good av guy in pub matches. its certainly something that requires a squad at least.

*sigh*
Let me start this by saying I'm not going to waste my time making another comment if you decide to respond to this, so don't waste your time.
FIRST OF ALL my comment didn't have anything to do with the OP, it had to do with your comment, which was bullsh*t spewed from the mouth of a KD/R ***** (I can only assume you are) that is a member of STB, which has bad publicity due to comments like yours.
SECOND at what point did I take his side? He was simply a person that got insulted for expressing his opinion and I was expressing MY opinion that you are a complete ****, and surprise surprise, you spewed some more bullsh*t hating on me as well.
THIRD good day sir.

Interesting, because I'm finding that the lowest-level tanks are balanced just fine against the appropriate AV (i.e., a little tricky to kill solo but possible), but the higher-level tanks are almost impossible to kill even with several AVs. Could it be you just weren't encountering the high-level tanks early in this build, before people had accumulated enough SP to use them?

I didn't have a problem with vehicles last build either, although it could have just been that they weren't used as much or that people weren't speccing into the high-level HAVs or something. Not sure about that.

Anyway, we'll see the solution they've come up with. It's a complex thing to balance because you're talking about asymmetrical balancing in almost every respect, e.g., risks, costs, weaknesses, team composition, etc.

My solution for dealing with tanks?

avoidance. if you are getting mobbed by tanks toss a uplink indoors/ in a place tanks can't go and make them come to you on foot.

Ewar will be fragile at best, waiting for something that isn't lethal to balance the lethalness of the weapons we have will get no where fast.

Web grenades can't slow you down to much or it's OP itself, it can't be so weak that tanks stroll through it. and those will also effect infantry to a point to help with scoutsuits.. So it can't be OP in that sense. trying to balance all this when the ewar hopefully comes out with next build will overwhelm the work load more then it needs to be.

Lets balance what we have that can do damage to a tank before adding things in that wont even do damage to it, only make it MARGINALLY "easier" to hit with the damaging AV weapons...

Come on! I understand all of the CoD fags getting mad because " O I cnt keel tanc with dah missile esy so dis game is dumb " lol, there tanks.... there suppose to be hard to kill, not to mention they cost a ton of Kredits.

My Solution - Don't do anything to the tanks, just let there be more ways to kill the tanks, and make heavy suits stronger so they can withstand more. Not to mention i recommend people who want to go AV to start actually training AV instead of using militia swarm launchers.... i have 3,000,000+ SP in vehicles, and i still lose a tank every once in a while. If someone kills a tank... or helps kill one.... bravo, let them have a kitten ton of ISK after the match.