DUST Search - Tanks - too easy to skill into

Shadows Maker wrote:

STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:

xAckie wrote:

STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote:

xAckie wrote:

yes. yes. thats right. its much harder and much more sp. Thats why the games full of them.

ah, sarcasm. yes.

next time try responding with facts, but whatever, fighting an uphill battle with these things is understandably tough when most of your argument is qq.

there are a lot more tanks because a lot of the infantry have gotten frustrated with the few actually good tank drivers and have jumped on the bandwagon, which is fine since now i have new tanks to pop with my anti-tank fit. doesn't mean they are good and they certainly dont last the match.

facts are all above and in other threads. the rest of your comments are just troll

qq threads dont make facts.

the ccp video i am referring to however is full of goodies straight form the devs that apparently never answer anyone's complaints. Truth is, if you guys would actually watch this stuff instead of whining, most of your complaints are already answered. like months ago. again, facts here people.

so you are stating that the AV vs Tanks is balanced as it is now?
am really surprised of your tankboysim at least other tank drivers agreed that AV needs some work while the tanks are fine (which is not imho) but still they accept others argument but you, oh boy! i am glad am not in your corp i think you would team kill all your AV teammates for not using tanks lol

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Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.09.03 18:56:00 - [31] - Quote Agreed. I only roll militia tanks. Still seems good enough and tough enough vs anything except adv forge guns. Run away from the fat bloke.
xAckie Ahrendee Mercenaries Legacy Rising 125	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:00:00 - [32] - Quote STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: xAckie wrote: yes. yes. thats right. its much harder and much more sp. Thats why the games full of them. ah, sarcasm. yes. next time try responding with facts, but whatever, fighting an uphill battle with these things is understandably tough when most of your argument is qq. there are a lot more tanks because a lot of the infantry have gotten frustrated with the few actually good tank drivers and have jumped on the bandwagon, which is fine since now i have new tanks to pop with my anti-tank fit. doesn't mean they are good and they certainly dont last the match. facts are all above and in other threads. the rest of your comments are just troll
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:03:00 - [33] - Quote STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: tanks currently require much more sp ... TBH i stopped reading ther tbh because its pure **** When did your arse grow hands and start to shipost?
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 173	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:05:00 - [34] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: That video Lurch is the reason tanks are Op. Atli (CCP_Praetorian) is creative director for CCP. And was heavily involved with CCP shanghai (they're the main lot working on Dust, right?) Watch that video again (can't link ATM) @20 minutes the marauder appears on screen, and Atli is clearly in love with it. Notice how they say they all wanted it nerfed, but Atli said "NOoo Ragh". I just fear that when the boss says "marauders will be godly and you will love it" the hardworking folk will make it so. That's their job. This is all speculation based on trying to come up with some kind of reasoning behind these crazy changes we've seen. Yes, they're temporary, but it's a real pain having to drive militia HAVs about to play AV. (Be a good chap someone and link the "Dust 514 battlefield roles" video) Edit: It'd be nice to hear CCP staff views on current beta gameplay (when they have time. They must be busting their balls working on Dust ATM) whether or not we like what CCP does, they will make the game the way they envision it while tweaking it based on our numbers. their fundamental views however dont change. i dont have an opinion about this particular part, but if ccp likes tanks to have a significant role on the map, then thats how its gonna be cause there will be a lot more than just tank and infantry in the future, and thats what ccp is set on. if after this point you still dont like what ccp is doing, then you simply dont like that certain aspect of dust and you cant make a game that is perfectly made for every single person of every single playstyle. i for one am glad tha tthe ccp dev likes marauders
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 173	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:08:00 - [35] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: tanks currently require much more sp ... TBH i stopped reading ther tbh because its pure **** When did your arse grow hands and start to shipost? im sorry you feel that way. you dont have to believe me, i really dont care either way. just another butthurt person whining on the forums to me.
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 173	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:12:00 - [36] - Quote xAckie wrote: STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: xAckie wrote: yes. yes. thats right. its much harder and much more sp. Thats why the games full of them. ah, sarcasm. yes. next time try responding with facts, but whatever, fighting an uphill battle with these things is understandably tough when most of your argument is qq. there are a lot more tanks because a lot of the infantry have gotten frustrated with the few actually good tank drivers and have jumped on the bandwagon, which is fine since now i have new tanks to pop with my anti-tank fit. doesn't mean they are good and they certainly dont last the match. facts are all above and in other threads. the rest of your comments are just troll qq threads dont make facts. the ccp video i am referring to however is full of goodies straight form the devs that apparently never answer anyone's complaints. Truth is, if you guys would actually watch this stuff instead of whining, most of your complaints are already answered. like months ago. again, facts here people.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:24:00 - [37] - Quote I don't mind them making their own game, but I do question why changes are made. Especially crazy ones like 25% less AV damage at the same time as making type2 suits the best, and nerfing all the other. I'm not a tanker by choice. But as for getting back on topic... Infantry require more SP. because you'll probs need type2 suits for heavy and your choice of suit. Same with guns. You'll want swarms, assault rifles, SMG's and shotguns maxed out. That alone is 5 mil a weapon including proficiencies. A fully specked infantry player would need maybe double the SP of a tanker. The key is ISK. A full proficient Proto assault will be less than a black ops HAV. Even if he dies 20 times. I'd hate to be trying to balance things thinking about a live economy where tanks could go for less ISK than a frigate in EvE.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:24:00 - [38] - Quote STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: tanks currently require much more sp ... TBH i stopped reading ther tbh because its pure ** When did your arse grow hands and start to shipost? im sorry you feel that way. you dont have to believe me, i really dont care either way. just another butthurt person whining on the forums to me. lol whining, i dont give a ** if one side puts up 4 tanks but AV got a nerf and its easier to get into a tank them imma speak up about it tbh You can defend your tank all you want but its easier to skill into and AV aint doing that much against it in this build since it requires more SP
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 173	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:29:00 - [39] - Quote lol you guys keep saying, " but infantry used ALL these skills over here, but tanks only use this, which is like half the sp..." fine, thats why your tank will never beat mine. 10 mil sp into my tank so far and counting. not even close to being done.
Shadows Maker Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 129	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:31:00 - [40] - Quote STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: xAckie wrote: STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: xAckie wrote: yes. yes. thats right. its much harder and much more sp. Thats why the games full of them. ah, sarcasm. yes. next time try responding with facts, but whatever, fighting an uphill battle with these things is understandably tough when most of your argument is qq. there are a lot more tanks because a lot of the infantry have gotten frustrated with the few actually good tank drivers and have jumped on the bandwagon, which is fine since now i have new tanks to pop with my anti-tank fit. doesn't mean they are good and they certainly dont last the match. facts are all above and in other threads. the rest of your comments are just troll qq threads dont make facts. the ccp video i am referring to however is full of goodies straight form the devs that apparently never answer anyone's complaints. Truth is, if you guys would actually watch this stuff instead of whining, most of your complaints are already answered. like months ago. again, facts here people. so you are stating that the AV vs Tanks is balanced as it is now? am really surprised of your tankboysim at least other tank drivers agreed that AV needs some work while the tanks are fine (which is not imho) but still they accept others argument but you, oh boy! i am glad am not in your corp i think you would team kill all your AV teammates for not using tanks lol

Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:32:00 - [41] - Quote i noticed you in heavy with HMG the other night. Any reason? do you have inside info on the next pacth you want to share with us or is that a breach of NDA?
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 173	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:32:00 - [42] - Quote EnglishSnake wrote: STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: EnglishSnake wrote: STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: tanks currently require much more sp ... TBH i stopped reading ther tbh because its pure ** When did your arse grow hands and start to shipost? im sorry you feel that way. you dont have to believe me, i really dont care either way. just another butthurt person whining on the forums to me. lol whining, i dont give a ** if one side puts up 4 tanks but AV got a nerf and its easier to get into a tank them imma speak up about it tbh You can defend your tank all you want but its easier to skill into and AV aint doing that much against it in this build since it requires more SP lemme throw this your way to get my point across. if you still dont agree after this, thats fine. american soldiers on a battlefield come across a tank. fine, they call in the av guy, pull out a javelin, and pop the sumbich and be on their way. If they were attacking a freaking tank division however, do you think we would send in a platoon of infantry armed with rocket launchers? NO, we would call in our own tanks. rl arguments are silly but tactics are universal and using them ingame gives a HUGE advantage since this game is more complex than pew pew killstreak.
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 173	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:37:00 - [43] - Quote Shadows Maker wrote: STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: xAckie wrote: STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: xAckie wrote: yes. yes. thats right. its much harder and much more sp. Thats why the games full of them. ah, sarcasm. yes. next time try responding with facts, but whatever, fighting an uphill battle with these things is understandably tough when most of your argument is qq. there are a lot more tanks because a lot of the infantry have gotten frustrated with the few actually good tank drivers and have jumped on the bandwagon, which is fine since now i have new tanks to pop with my anti-tank fit. doesn't mean they are good and they certainly dont last the match. facts are all above and in other threads. the rest of your comments are just troll qq threads dont make facts. the ccp video i am referring to however is full of goodies straight form the devs that apparently never answer anyone's complaints. Truth is, if you guys would actually watch this stuff instead of whining, most of your complaints are already answered. like months ago. again, facts here people. so you are stating that the AV vs Tanks is balanced as it is now? am really surprised of your tankboysim at least other tank drivers agreed that AV needs some work while the tanks are fine (which is not imho) but still they accept others argument but you, oh boy! i am glad am not in your corp i think you would team kill all your AV teammates for not using tanks lol rather than trying to trivialize my posts, read them. you would see that i have not said things are balanced, but will be significantly affected by the implementation of ewar, the SAME stance CCP has right now. Because i only state what CCP has backed up. guess im a ccp fanboy for regurgitating what they say for people who refuse to look at their vids and cough up their own "facts" lots of qq and a lot of, "Don't listen to this guy, he's inept cause he doesn't agree with the qq bandwagon."
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:37:00 - [44] - Quote Shadows Maker wrote: STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: xAckie wrote: STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: xAckie wrote: yes. yes. thats right. its much harder and much more sp. Thats why the games full of them. ah, sarcasm. yes. next time try responding with facts, but whatever, fighting an uphill battle with these things is understandably tough when most of your argument is qq. there are a lot more tanks because a lot of the infantry have gotten frustrated with the few actually good tank drivers and have jumped on the bandwagon, which is fine since now i have new tanks to pop with my anti-tank fit. doesn't mean they are good and they certainly dont last the match. facts are all above and in other threads. the rest of your comments are just troll qq threads dont make facts. the ccp video i am referring to however is full of goodies straight form the devs that apparently never answer anyone's complaints. Truth is, if you guys would actually watch this stuff instead of whining, most of your complaints are already answered. like months ago. again, facts here people. so you are stating that the AV vs Tanks is balanced as it is now? am really surprised of your tankboysim at least other tank drivers agreed that AV needs some work while the tanks are fine (which is not imho) but still they accept others argument but you, oh boy! i am glad am not in your corp i think you would team kill all your AV teammates for not using tanks lol not sure if its bullshit or not but i read that CCP did this to test tank v tank, didnt post it anywhere but IRC so the rest of us just became cannon fodder lol. the tank v tank didnt get tested because they were having so much fun killing squishies they made a pact to never attack each other.
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:46:00 - [45] - Quote I think a week off to let the tankers fight it out is in order.
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:47:00 - [46] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: I think a week off to let the tankers fight it out is in order. then a server wipe before next patch. just to see if the same people skill into what they did this time. nerf the sp gain you get while in a tank to something that is applicable to what everyone else gets.
Shadows Maker Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 129	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:51:00 - [47] - Quote STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: rather than trying to trivialize my posts, read them. you would see that i have not said things are balanced, but will be significantly affected by the implementation of ewar, the SAME stance CCP has right now. Because i only state what CCP has backed up. guess im a ccp fanboy for regurgitating what they say for people who refuse to look at their vids and cough up their own "facts" lots of qq and a lot of, "Don't listen to this guy, he's inept cause he doesn't agree with the qq bandwagon." just so you know am not AV guy but a HAV user If CCP doesn't fix the current AV vs Tank state well more kills for me and if they do balance it i'll be happy for my AV teammates so the QQ thingy doesn't apply on me am just trying to be fair
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 134	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:59:00 - [48] - Quote Snake,,,, Tony,,,,, Iam surprised you haven't learnt about these forums yet boys... They are 90% eve players and 10% MAG easy mode... Remember how sver players always insisted it was'nt easy.... lol..... I find it hilarious STB are tanking it up and defending them to the hilt on here. I know you are both right, and good for you for trying to point it out, but you're on a loser on here I'm afraid.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.09.03 19:59:00 - [49] - Quote Cpl Quartz wrote: Tony Calif wrote: I think a week off to let the tankers fight it out is in order. then a server wipe before next patch. just to see if the same people skill into what they did this time. nerf the sp gain you get while in a tank to something that is applicable to what everyone else gets. If nothing changes skill wise or mod wise then they will all go tanks yet again, **** it i will aswell and we can have tank battles instead
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 173	Posted - 2012.09.03 20:00:00 - [50] - Quote stb has 2 tank drivers. didnt play mag unfortunately

Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.09.03 20:04:00 - [51] - Quote make another char just for tonight make an av guy and go play for an hour or two.
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 134	Posted - 2012.09.03 20:06:00 - [52] - Quote STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: stb has 2 tank drivers. didnt play mag unfortunately You didn't play mag, and you signed up with SVER T B a mag clan of talentless easy moders... Good for you tanky.
BLENDEDDAVE WARRIORS 108	Posted - 2012.09.03 20:11:00 - [53] - Quote i have just pre ordered farcry 3 insane edition this will be proper fps as for tanks 2013 good luck
Tony Calif Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 2002	Posted - 2012.09.03 20:18:00 - [54] - Quote Lurch is a diehard tanker. Ted was always good on MAG, and I played 3 games with Krucial the other night. He racked up 70 kills with AR/SMG over 3 games without dying. STB are just taking advantage of the situations. EvE players will be proud :D I'm sure they'll fix things. We'll just all have to run militia tanks. Ice, get your guys to run militia tanks every game. Become a cheap tank crew! Join the militia today!
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 134	Posted - 2012.09.03 20:33:00 - [55] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Lurch is a diehard tanker. Ted was always good on MAG, and I played 3 games with Krucial the other night. He racked up 70 kills with AR/SMG over 3 games without dying. STB are just taking advantage of the situations. EvE players will be proud :D I'm sure they'll fix things. We'll just all have to run militia tanks. Ice, get your guys to run militia tanks every game. Become a cheap tank crew! Join the militia today! Sure maybe afew SVER wern't bad, I don't know I only played about 50hrs on easy mode of my 3,000 plus hrs. Tony I dont really play this much any more now, it's boring and i play fps games primarily to have fun with my clan mates and friends. This game is just a grind it has zero fun factor... Best times we've had as a group on a game was annoying the **** out of easy mode.... Never even cared about winning, it was hilarious hearing them whine on proxy..... Good times.
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 173	Posted - 2012.09.03 20:34:00 - [56] - Quote Cpl Quartz wrote: make another char just for tonight make an av guy and go play for an hour or two. fortunately for you, i already have played with av, last build and this build.
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.09.03 20:41:00 - [57] - Quote STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: Cpl Quartz wrote: make another char just for tonight make an av guy and go play for an hour or two. fortunately for you, i already have played with av, last build and this build. well didnt play enough or you wouldnt be here defending your lame ass crutch.
STB-LURCHASAURUS EV Circle of Huskarl Minmatar Republic 173	Posted - 2012.09.03 20:56:00 - [58] - Quote well you arent playing well enough or you wouldnt be here complaining about your lame ass ineptitude.
Cpl Quartz 127	Posted - 2012.09.03 21:03:00 - [59] - Quote Tony Calif wrote: Lurch is a diehard tanker. Ted was always good on MAG, and I played 3 games with Krucial the other night. He racked up 70 kills with AR/SMG over 3 games without dying. STB are just taking advantage of the situations. EvE players will be proud :D I'm sure they'll fix things. We'll just all have to run militia tanks. Ice, get your guys to run militia tanks every game. Become a cheap tank crew! Join the militia today! I'd have more respect for him if he said yeah you know what it is a bit askew something needs to be done. He's a lamer all he wants is free and easy kills. oh and the only EvE players that would be proud are goons. You should try going on vent with them one night. Funny lot, in a laugh at them not with them kind of way.
ICECREAMK1NG WARRIORS 134	Posted - 2012.09.03 21:04:00 - [60] - Quote STB-LURCHASAURUS EV wrote: well you arent playing well enough or you wouldnt be here complaining about your lame ass ineptitude. Just a guess. I'm guessing you're an eve player and I'm also guessing this is you're first console FPS. If neither then you should, you won't, but you should be ashamed of yourself as a gamer, and I use the term gamer loosely.



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