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Trevor Gallado Colonial Marines BR 3	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:14:00 - [1] - Quote C'mon, everything in this game turned to be so damn expensive, and hard to earn SP... I hope this can be issued very soon...
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:18:00 - [2] - Quote The goal was to make running full proto full time impossible without insane funding (ie. goonsquad mercs). This is to make it so you rely on your skills more than your wallet, proto is now for special occasions, and advanced gear is only for when you're getting some pretty good, steady payouts.
Mic McCoy Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:20:00 - [3] - Quote I have to agree here. I had almost 13 mill when I started tonight and ended at about 10 mill after three games. Im not sure if it is intended to be so high priced or not, but Ill be in militia gear in 15 fights or so. As it is Im only using proto guns, not a proto suite. So I can only imagine how much people are paying for them each round. I wish that there was some balance between dust and eve in terms of price. in 5 rounds of playing dust I will spend enough for a decent cruiser hull in eve. o_0
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:22:00 - [4] - Quote Mic McCoy wrote: I have to agree here. I had almost 13 mill when I started tonight and ended at about 10 mill after three games. Im not sure if it is intended to be so high priced or not, but Ill be in militia gear in 15 fights or so. As it is Im only using proto guns, not a proto suite. So I can only imagine how much people are paying for them each round. I wish that there was some balance between dust and eve in terms of price. in 5 rounds of playing dust I will spend enough for a decent cruiser hull in eve. o_0 I point you to my above post.
Trevor Gallado Colonial Marines BR 3	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:23:00 - [5] - Quote And there is something else.... C'mon man, this is getting ridiculous... PAY TO TALK? Just paid a bunch of mony on this Stereo Wireless Headset for PS3 only to play and talk on dust... now i have to pay to talk? CMON!!!
Mic McCoy Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 19	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:30:00 - [6] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: Mic McCoy wrote: I have to agree here. I had almost 13 mill when I started tonight and ended at about 10 mill after three games. Im not sure if it is intended to be so high priced or not, but Ill be in militia gear in 15 fights or so. As it is Im only using proto guns, not a proto suite. So I can only imagine how much people are paying for them each round. I wish that there was some balance between dust and eve in terms of price. in 5 rounds of playing dust I will spend enough for a decent cruiser hull in eve. o_0 I point you to my above post. Yeah, we were typing at the same time, when I posted yours popped up there
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:32:00 - [7] - Quote Mic McCoy wrote: Yeah, we were typing at the same time, when I posted yours popped up there Ah gotchya So you get what I said then?
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:33:00 - [8] - Quote Trevor Gallado wrote: And there is something else.... C'mon man, this is getting ridiculous... PAY TO TALK? Just paid a bunch of mony on this Stereo Wireless Headset for PS3 only to play and talk on dust... now i have to pay to talk? CMON!!! This has been explained, its only "pay to talk" to EVE players or non local voice comms (anyone outside your current star system). Regardless, it is something CCP said they would not do - "we are not sharding off parts of the game to players who pay"
Waruiko DUST G I A N T 90	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:47:00 - [9] - Quote I can see why they have those augs in there, but I don't think having them cost AUR is a good idea here
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:50:00 - [10] - Quote Waruiko DUST wrote: I can see why they have those augs in there, but I don't think having them cost AUR is a good idea here No, it isn't. It's a direct breach of their promise not to provide anything extra to paid players.

Mr Funless Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 191	Posted - 2012.08.15 03:57:00 - [11] - Quote working as intended
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.08.15 04:20:00 - [12] - Quote The more I think about it, I hate to say i but yes, CCP has been breaking its promises.... Not good news
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.15 04:25:00 - [13] - Quote J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: The more I think about it, I hate to say i but yes, CCP has been breaking its promises.... Not good news They promised us true F2P, and KBM. So far, they haven't delivered on either of those. Edit: I'm sure there are other broken promises, but those are the only two I care about.
Lakega Scerta 9	Posted - 2012.08.15 04:38:00 - [14] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: The more I think about it, I hate to say i but yes, CCP has been breaking its promises.... Not good news They promised us true F2P, and KBM. So far, they haven't delivered on either of those. Edit: I'm sure there are other broken promises, but those are the only two I care about. They can break about 50 more promises and still be a more loyal and player driven company than any others out there, except for a very very small select few others. That being said... The prices I feel should be dropped -slightly- but not by much. I like these high prices for 1 reason and 1 reason only... You'll see alot more people caring if they lose tanks/vehicles, and using the properly, against people like in BF3 who suicide a tank again and again using it as stupidly as possible and not using it to your teams advantage in anyway shape or form. This alone makes me go yay to higher prices, higher prices forces players to play more smart, and to take less risks, and all in all, stop doing stupid stuff. Makes me one happy girl.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.15 04:44:00 - [15] - Quote Lakega Scerta wrote: They can break about 50 more promises and still be a more loyal and player driven company than any others out there, except for a very very small select few others. That being said... The prices I feel should be dropped -slightly- but not by much. I like these high prices for 1 reason and 1 reason only... You'll see alot more people caring if they lose tanks/vehicles, and using the properly, against people like in BF3 who suicide a tank again and again using it as stupidly as possible and not using it to your teams advantage in anyway shape or form. This alone makes me go yay to higher prices, higher prices forces players to play more smart, and to take less risks, and all in all, stop doing stupid stuff. Makes me one happy girl. Don't worry about the prices - if you are a pilot and a corporation views you as valuable, they will buy you the vehicle of your choice, as long as you get the mission done. If you charge 5 million ISK for your services, and you get the job done every time, you shouldn't have a problem. For some one with a 1/10 success rating, thats another story.
The Robot Devil 45	Posted - 2012.08.15 08:36:00 - [16] - Quote High prices and slow skill progression is what DUST needs. I want to be a pilot and I want to be a good pilot and I am willing to spend a fortune to prove my worth. Also whenever we can sell on the market we will make more ISK. This game is going to be awesome when it gets its roots down. EVE is slow paced and things are expensive and that is what makes it so fun. It is your clones in another universe, no one said it would be fast, cheap or easy.
Steve Renuken BetaMax. 23	Posted - 2012.08.15 11:49:00 - [17] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: The more I think about it, I hate to say i but yes, CCP has been breaking its promises.... Not good news They promised us true F2P, and KBM. So far, they haven't delivered on either of those. Edit: I'm sure there are other broken promises, but those are the only two I care about. Uh, KBM is there now? Came in with precursor
Aeon Amadi Maverick Conflict Solutions 1003	Posted - 2012.08.15 13:58:00 - [18] - Quote Steve Renuken wrote: Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: The more I think about it, I hate to say i but yes, CCP has been breaking its promises.... Not good news They promised us true F2P, and KBM. So far, they haven't delivered on either of those. Edit: I'm sure there are other broken promises, but those are the only two I care about. Uh, KBM is there now? Came in with precursor It's broken as hell right now.
EnglishSnake Zumari Force Projection Caldari State 1012	Posted - 2012.08.15 14:28:00 - [19] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: J'Jor Da'Wg wrote: The more I think about it, I hate to say i but yes, CCP has been breaking its promises.... Not good news They promised us true F2P, and KBM. So far, they haven't delivered on either of those. Edit: I'm sure there are other broken promises, but those are the only two I care about. Yes they have KB+M is in - you cannot dispute that F2P - You download it and play it and dont have to spend any money whatsoever if you dont want to They have delivered
Sectum Lightyear Dark-Rising 26	Posted - 2012.08.15 15:18:00 - [20] - Quote IMO, If you don't want people to use stuff, don't put it in; what's the point of proto gear that noone can afford to run more than once? Costs did need to go up from before, but not this much. It's now impossible to run with much more than militia/standard gear unless you are a campy campy sniper sitting 8 miles away. We're not playing spaceships here, we're ground warriors in a ground war. Our gear should not cost as much as a spaceship when we're expected to die 1-5 times per 20-30 minutes!

KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf Seraphim Initiative. CRONOS. 3064	Posted - 2012.08.15 15:29:00 - [21] - Quote Downgrading all my fittings to be around 30,000 isk
theschizogenious KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 167	Posted - 2012.08.15 15:41:00 - [22] - Quote i like the price increase because it was a fitting response to all the lone wolfing and puts the newer players at an even pace. plus it encourages teamwork so that you wont die as often so that you will be able to keep your money. and remember that this is a beta at some point we are going to have a player driven economy where corps can produce and sell all the items to the market to make money. if all the think that protosuits need to be cheaper and start making them they will become cheap as freak but everything else will have its prices skyrocket. and at some point you may be able to find a prototype BPO and have unlimited access to it.
Avenger 245 Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 477	Posted - 2012.08.15 15:43:00 - [23] - Quote Prices are good
Degren Cthulhu Bragian Order Amarr Empire 22	Posted - 2012.08.15 16:01:00 - [24] - Quote i spent all my money then set up all militia fits to see how long it would take to make back 3 or 4 mill, didnt take that long and i still on average kept a 2kdr plus it was fun killing peeps in proto gear in the militia/standard games lol
J'Jor Da'Wg KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION 648	Posted - 2012.08.15 17:38:00 - [25] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: The goal was to make running full proto full time impossible without insane funding (ie. goonsquad mercs). This is to make it so you rely on your skills more than your wallet, proto is now for special occasions, and advanced gear is only for when you're getting some pretty good, steady payouts. I think thats actually kind of cool, and makes more sense, it levels the playing field without being too artificial. And really, if everyone uses "prototype gear" then is it "prototype" anymore... wouldn't it be regarded as Standard? So in that sense yes, high prices are good for balance so the old players don't have an insane advantage over new players due simply to gear. It makes for more intelligent decisions, since you cannot make the "best" Fit out there as easily, you have to trade off modules due to the limitations of the suit more.
Mitchman 514 36	Posted - 2012.08.15 19:28:00 - [26] - Quote I have no doubt that there is also an economic motive behind the price hikes here. You can still get proto gear using AUR. I find it a bit suspicious that they basically makes proto gear too expensive for most while keeping the AUR items with the same or better stats.
Veigar Mordekaiser Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire 676	Posted - 2012.08.15 20:12:00 - [27] - Quote Mitchman 514 wrote: I have no doubt that there is also an economic motive behind the price hikes here. You can still get proto gear using AUR. I find it a bit suspicious that they basically makes proto gear too expensive for most while keeping the AUR items with the same or better stats. Raising AUR prices wouldn't be possible for them, if they're expecting to earn any money on them. If a suit was 20AUR before, would you pay 200AUR for it now? no. EnglishSnake wrote: Yes they have KB+M is in - you cannot dispute that F2P - You download it and play it and dont have to spend any money whatsoever if you dont want to They have delivered KBM is so badly implemented that it has no usefulness as a control scheme, at is at a strong disadvantage to the DS3. I refuse to call that a control scheme. When they fix it, and deliver it as promised ("we want KBM users to feel like they're playing any other PC shooter" [paraphrased] - David Reid) then I will say they have kept their promise of giving us KBM. As far as true F2P, they have not delivered. They have given an advantage to AUR users, and they have even given them exclusive content - both things they have blatantly stated they would not do, on multiple occasions.
Knarf Black Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 397	Posted - 2012.08.15 20:26:00 - [28] - Quote I'm fine with the price hikes. The only reasons not to use all proto gear all the time before were that you didn't have the SP or the enemy team was completely dominating the field.
Pombe Geek Red Star. 44	Posted - 2012.08.15 20:47:00 - [29] - Quote Veigar Mordekaiser wrote: As far as true F2P, they have not delivered. They have given an advantage to AUR users, and they have even given them exclusive content - both things they have blatantly stated they would not do, on multiple occasions. What exclusive content? The colors schemes for dropsuits? lower requirements for proto/advanced gear? voicechat between systems? All above seem like side grades (or useless) to me. They never said they wouldn't give exclusive content to anyone, they said that it wouldn't be pay to win, and so far they've kept their promise. Edit: what about the Dragonfly suit and the other suit from participating in beta - that's exclusive content available only to beta testers - should those be given to everyone?
Xavier Hastings ZionTCD Legacy Rising 243	Posted - 2012.08.15 21:12:00 - [30] - Quote What exactly does KB+M stand for?



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