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Veigar Mordekaiser
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Posted - 2012.08.15 03:18:00 -
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The goal was to make running full proto full time impossible without insane funding (ie. goonsquad mercs). This is to make it so you rely on your skills more than your wallet, proto is now for special occasions, and advanced gear is only for when you're getting some pretty good, steady payouts. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 03:22:00 -
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Mic McCoy wrote:I have to agree here. I had almost 13 mill when I started tonight and ended at about 10 mill after three games. Im not sure if it is intended to be so high priced or not, but Ill be in militia gear in 15 fights or so. As it is Im only using proto guns, not a proto suite. So I can only imagine how much people are paying for them each round.
I wish that there was some balance between dust and eve in terms of price. in 5 rounds of playing dust I will spend enough for a decent cruiser hull in eve. o_0 I point you to my above post. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 03:32:00 -
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Mic McCoy wrote:Yeah, we were typing at the same time, when I posted yours popped up there Ah gotchya So you get what I said then? |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 03:33:00 -
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Trevor Gallado wrote:And there is something else.... C'mon man, this is getting ridiculous... PAY TO TALK?
Just paid a bunch of mony on this Stereo Wireless Headset for PS3 only to play and talk on dust... now i have to pay to talk? CMON!!! This has been explained, its only "pay to talk" to EVE players or non local voice comms (anyone outside your current star system). Regardless, it is something CCP said they would not do - "we are not sharding off parts of the game to players who pay" |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 03:50:00 -
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Waruiko DUST wrote:I can see why they have those augs in there, but I don't think having them cost AUR is a good idea here No, it isn't. It's a direct breach of their promise not to provide anything extra to paid players. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:25:00 -
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J'Jor Da'Wg wrote:The more I think about it, I hate to say i but yes, CCP has been breaking its promises.... Not good news They promised us true F2P, and KBM. So far, they haven't delivered on either of those.
Edit: I'm sure there are other broken promises, but those are the only two I care about. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:44:00 -
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Lakega Scerta wrote:They can break about 50 more promises and still be a more loyal and player driven company than any others out there, except for a very very small select few others.
That being said...
The prices I feel should be dropped -slightly- but not by much. I like these high prices for 1 reason and 1 reason only... You'll see alot more people caring if they lose tanks/vehicles, and using the properly, against people like in BF3 who suicide a tank again and again using it as stupidly as possible and not using it to your teams advantage in anyway shape or form.
This alone makes me go yay to higher prices, higher prices forces players to play more smart, and to take less risks, and all in all, stop doing stupid stuff. Makes me one happy girl. Don't worry about the prices - if you are a pilot and a corporation views you as valuable, they will buy you the vehicle of your choice, as long as you get the mission done. If you charge 5 million ISK for your services, and you get the job done every time, you shouldn't have a problem. For some one with a 1/10 success rating, thats another story. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 20:12:00 -
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Mitchman 514 wrote:I have no doubt that there is also an economic motive behind the price hikes here. You can still get proto gear using AUR. I find it a bit suspicious that they basically makes proto gear too expensive for most while keeping the AUR items with the same or better stats. Raising AUR prices wouldn't be possible for them, if they're expecting to earn any money on them. If a suit was 20AUR before, would you pay 200AUR for it now? no.
EnglishSnake wrote:Yes they have
KB+M is in - you cannot dispute that
F2P - You download it and play it and dont have to spend any money whatsoever if you dont want to
They have delivered KBM is so badly implemented that it has no usefulness as a control scheme, at is at a strong disadvantage to the DS3. I refuse to call that a control scheme. When they fix it, and deliver it as promised ("we want KBM users to feel like they're playing any other PC shooter" [paraphrased] - David Reid) then I will say they have kept their promise of giving us KBM.
As far as true F2P, they have not delivered. They have given an advantage to AUR users, and they have even given them exclusive content - both things they have blatantly stated they would not do, on multiple occasions. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 21:43:00 -
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Pombe Geek wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:
As far as true F2P, they have not delivered. They have given an advantage to AUR users, and they have even given them exclusive content - both things they have blatantly stated they would not do, on multiple occasions.
What exclusive content? The colors schemes for dropsuits? lower requirements for proto/advanced gear? voicechat between systems? All above seem like side grades (or useless) to me. They never said they wouldn't give exclusive content to anyone, they said that it wouldn't be pay to win, and so far they've kept their promise. Edit: what about the Dragonfly suit and the other suit from participating in beta - that's exclusive content available only to beta testers - should those be given to everyone? "We are not sharding off parts of the game to paid players". Guess what, chat between systems is going to play a very large part in Dust 514, and making players pay for that, is a direct way of saying "Oh you wanted to run a successful corp with voice chat? Sux2BU! PAY US!"
By exclusive content I mean something you can only get by paying, that there isn't a free equivalent of. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.16 03:44:00 -
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JONLUK167 wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Waruiko DUST wrote:I can see why they have those augs in there, but I don't think having them cost AUR is a good idea here No, it isn't. It's a direct breach of their promise not to provide anything extra to paid players. How do you want ccp to pay all those people to keep dust up and running Ever played League of Legends? They make tons of money and paid players have nothing over free players.
Edit: To back up that point, Pulsefire Ezreal costs $30, has no effect on gameplay, and probably 1/3 people I see playing Ezreal have that skin. |
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