I'm confused - how can players sit there and say "it's a part of eve economy, it's meant to be high".... standard fitting for a heavy machine gun using militia shield extenders (which are free) costs 34,000 isk. 6 deaths and you've just hit over 200k in loss, over most of what the average player gets in isk, considering you are using the shittiest gear in the game, do you think the average player will die less than 6 times? no. It's favouring the elite with the money vs the new players who have just joined.

how is a new player with low sp/isk supposed to get off their feet if they are spending their money to die on standard gear

I think we need that reset so it becomes more of a balanced game, right now there are lots with millions left to burn I don't think this weekend will be very clean, when the reset comes, people will be more careful about what they field out.

They revive/squad argument is great, people should be reviving and running in squads.

Here's where it fails to address the issue of actual funding:
Imagine 2 squads meeting face to face with the same skill levels. Everyone has proto gear and good logi's. The fight will be great but someone will die which will usually lead to the entire squad dying. Now every player on that squad, regardless of how awesome they play the rest of the match out, will be in the red money wise.

They argument for use less effective gear fails to address the primary and fundamental part of the game: Why players come back. The goal, the prize, the payoff: The best gear with the best mods!

There's currently no payoff for an average player to invest hours at a time into something that he'll lose it all in one or two matches.

Frankly the game has a MUCH HIGHER focus of kdr before this price increase.

If the contract is lucrative then it would cover proto, otherwise it's a waste of time. Why bother showing up with substandard equipment?

But every match won't be some elite eve alliance match. Deaths happen and deaths happen much more often in games where you have to run in and disarm a bomb. Oh Sorry guys i can't push forward i can't afford to lose this gear.

It happened tonight, my team pushed forward . We lost the first point and that was it no-one was interested in push forward and losing gear.

Super vet issue is not an issue, you need to know how a game plays with new players vs established players.

As a corp CEO I'm not taking a contract for a fight that will only cover 1 death per player.
I'd only be remotely interested in contracts that provide me with a guaranteed profit, I'm not fighting for space honor, i'm fighting for money.

If there's a win loss difference: like corp A puts up a contract for 12 mill. for a 12 v 12. If they loose they get 6 mill, if they win they get the 12 mil.

Even with the 6 mil over 12 players is 2.5 deaths.

This isn't all about proto gear either, even the lower tier stuff is too expensive. I don't use anything too crazy when I'm doing the infantry thing. A basic caldari assault suit with armor plates, a basic nanohive and a damage mod. I can't afford to lose that suit more than twice per round because I've gone from making 300k to 500k isk per round to around 100k. If I'm extremely lucky I might get 200k.

That doesn't even get in to HAVs. Even bringing a Soma in you might as well just light your isk on fire, because it will die fast and will cost you everything you earn in a match. And despite it being militia, it isn't a BPO anymore so you do have to replace it. Madrugar / Surya? Forget it. With the way things stand I regret training those vehicle skills, because I'll never be in a situation where I can use them. We can talk all we want about how rich alliances will shower us with isk, but the fact is sovereignty warfare will not be part of Dust at release. We're starting out in high-sec / faction war. Their stated goal is to make Dust work as a stand-alone game and then slowly increase the integration with Eve.

I can understand marauders being something we expect capsuleers to buy for us (maybe), but the tier 1 gear needs to be balanced so that we can earn and use it without their help.

"the driving factor behind prices will be supply and demand"

You can't balance based on what won't be in the game for a long time to come. CCP has said outright that starting out they will be seeding the markets themselves through npc sell orders. The player involvement in the economy will grow slowly over time, as it did with eve. That's how eve wound up with a stable player driven economy...you start out with a rigid economy, then open a little bit to the players and fiddle with it until it's balanced. Right now either costs need to come down or rewards need to go up. Yes this is beta, and things are subject to change. What we are saying is that something needs to change. Shocking.