W/e happened to "Adapt or Die"?

What people should be saying is that the controls, both DS3 and Keyboard/mouse, should be on the same playing field as far as in game capabilities go. Which currently they are not, close but not. Turning speed on the mouse still seems to lag on big turns vs the DS3, especially in vehicle turrets. In smaller areas the mouse/keyboard seem to have waaay better response over the DS3.

You do realize, that some of us have consoles because of A) exclusive games, or B) we can't even come close to affording a decent PC setup? One of my brothers has an $850 PC, the other has a $1200 PC. I have $200 in the bank, I can't even afford a low end PC.


Just because there are turn speeds in everything in the game, doesn't make them realistic. How long does it take you to turn around holding a shotgun? Or perhaps an M1911? Maybe a P90?

Also, how often do you ever run into someone with an AimBot on a console game? You can always cry about people that aim better than you, but realistically there aren't very many modders.

I was so excited when I saw the servers were up, got my KBM ready to go, and got in a game. Long story short, WTF CCP?

There is a difference between "balancing" and gimping beyond the point of usefulness. The sensitivity sucks, 80 is slow, 100 is whippy. The turn speed is pathetic. And I noticed my aimer getting locked on enemies. Aim assist on KBM? Come on now.

If KBM is going to be a viable control scheme, you're going to need to significantly raise the turn speed cap, or maybe just scrap it. Honestly, if you can make matches based on the control scheme people are using, just don't place KBM players against DS3 players in HighSec or something.

With the current available controls, I will never be able to experience what this game is made to be - I suck with the DS3, and the current KBM is unusable.

The whole point is to balance the control methods in stages. Keep giving feedback, because they need it, but this game should -NEVER- group people based on control methods. That is completely counter to the goal of this game, which is to allow everyone to use the control method of their preference without it affecting who they can play the game with.

The whole point is to balance the control methods in stages. Keep giving feedback, because they need it, but this game should -NEVER- group people based on control methods. That is completely counter to the goal of this game, which is to allow everyone to use the control method of their preference without it affecting who they can play the game with.

Wouldn't have an effect outside of HighSec matchmaking, and it would stop the crying.

This game is crazy. It's the only one where I have to use a mouse, keyboard, and gamepad. Not that I'm complaining, flying things SUCKS in a KBM setup.

However... I don't know how people can complain about the sensitivity. Maybe they have super gaming mice or something. I'm using a generic, bargain bin corded USB laser mouse and there isn't enough sensitivity in the game for me. Maybe I need to upgrade hardware, but I have the sensitivity on the PS3 -and- Dust cranke to maximum and it STILL isn't enough. Maybe I should use my PC mouse, but its' one of those MMO edition Nagas, and I really don't want to have to keep moving it back and forth.

do we know if the possibility to remap is coming ior it will be in next build ?

I don't really understand why they had to go add Keyb + Mouse support... They should have left it DS3 / Move only from the start, and there would not have been all this whining. I mean, it's a PS3 exclusive, play the game like a PS3 game.

Not everyone playing BF3 on PC has exactly the same skill with Keyb + Mouse, just like no one playing on PS3 has the same skill with DS3. Why go complicate something that was perfectly simple. If you don't like DS3, either learn to use the damn thing, like any PS3 player had to do the first few weeks of owning a console, or just don't play it.. There are many games I don't play because something in it does not work for me, I don't go cry about it, I just don't play it. Allowing Keyb + Mouse WILL just cause long term frustration for the players and CCP, more than not having the support at all would have had, mark my words...

This was a bad idea, and balancing it perfectly will be close to impossible. Should have left out Keyb + Mouse completely, but I guess time will tell if CCP can make it work. I'm not particularly good with the DS3 or Keyb + Mouse, it's just my opinion that they should have kept controller choice to a minimum. Now they will be dealing with this debate forever, unless they "filter" controllers, and that goes against the spirit of EVE and the whole persistent world thing imo.

I play EVE, I play shooters on PS3, I play shooters on PC using Keyb + Mouse, so please don't tell me I'm some PS3 fanboy, I'm stating what I believe is fact, so let's wait and see... Endless whining I tell ya, just wait and see....

I'm not starting a fight, that's just my opinion, and I'm 100% sure I'm not the only one that feels this way. :)

that whole schpiel is just plain dumb. it would be STUPID of ccp to not have integrated kb/m. there are a LOT of people including myself who refuse to play shooters of any kind with a controller. the fact that dust added kb/mouse support is the ONLY reason im even willing to play it at all. you honestly think that cutting an entire customer base simply because YOU dont like mice being in the game is a good idea? thats ********. thats a TON of money from microtransactions they would lose. the funny part is that the PS3 itself supports kb/mouse anyway, if i can control the PS3 with a KB/Mouse why the hell shouldnt i be able to play the games on it with them?