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Longshot Ravenwood
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:54:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:The turn speed is pathetic.
Which suits did you try the turn speed on?
The turn speeds should vary based on which suit you're using.
Is it comparable to DS3?
In other words, are you able to turn at the same speed in the same suit with keyboard & mouse as you were with a DS3?
Were you expecting an unfair advantage over DS3 players by being able to flip forward & backward in the blink of an eye just because you had a mouse & keyboard?
The beta test is here to make sure that everyone enters a moderately level playing field. Enjoy! |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 04:57:00 -
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Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:The turn speed is pathetic. Which suits did you try the turn speed on? The turn speeds should vary based on which suit you're using. Is it comparable to DS3? In other words, are you able to turn at the same speed in the same suit with keyboard & mouse as you were with a DS3? Were you expecting an unfair advantage over DS3 players by being able to flip forward & backward in the blink of an eye just because you had a mouse & keyboard? The beta test is here to make sure that everyone enters a moderately level playing field. Enjoy!
They were... similar to the DS3. Basically, you have a box that you can aim in. In that box, it's just like using KBM on any PC FPS game, snappy aiming, precise, yada yada. But, if you reach the egde of your box, BAM! it's like a wall of slow, you're stuck at the DS3 turn speed when you have the joystick pressed all the way to the side. In short, very unnatural, very ******.
As stated above:
Fivetimes Infinity wrote:I can't find the quote because Google only turns up stuff about this update, but they explicitly stated they wanted keyboard/mouse support that would make PC players feel like they're playing a FPS on the PC. They want the KB+M support to be flawless. So the fact that it is working like garbage is "a problem", and falls short of the target goal, whatever your opinion on using KB+M might be. |
Zero Harpuia
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:16:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:The turn speed is pathetic. Which suits did you try the turn speed on? The turn speeds should vary based on which suit you're using. Is it comparable to DS3? In other words, are you able to turn at the same speed in the same suit with keyboard & mouse as you were with a DS3? Were you expecting an unfair advantage over DS3 players by being able to flip forward & backward in the blink of an eye just because you had a mouse & keyboard? The beta test is here to make sure that everyone enters a moderately level playing field. Enjoy! They were... similar to the DS3. Basically, you have a box that you can aim in. In that box, it's just like using KBM on any PC FPS game, snappy aiming, precise, yada yada. But, if you reach the egde of your box, BAM! it's like a wall of slow, you're stuck at the DS3 turn speed when you have the joystick pressed all the way to the side. In short, very unnatural, very ******. As stated above: Fivetimes Infinity wrote:I can't find the quote because Google only turns up stuff about this update, but they explicitly stated they wanted keyboard/mouse support that would make PC players feel like they're playing a FPS on the PC. They want the KB+M support to be flawless. So the fact that it is working like garbage is "a problem", and falls short of the target goal, whatever your opinion on using KB+M might be.
...so KB/M is actually WiiMote :P |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:20:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:...so KB/M is actually WiiMote :P
Kind of, except the gun doesn't wiggle around the screen. Try it, just plug a mouse in during the start of a match in a safe spot, and try to aim. Its ******* awkward. |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:39:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:gangsta nachos wrote:Dante Daedrik wrote:W/e happened to "Adapt or Die"? you're funny I think its funny. Lol Um the mouse isnt supposed to be better th  an a ds3 on a ps3 anyway. I think every suit having a turn limit is a good thing keeps mouse from dominating besides the ds3 as a hard turn limiy I.cant push the controls further than the remote will let me. Then you should buy a KBM. Honestly, I have trouble playing FPS games on consoles just because the controls suck. Sure, Halo was fun, but for whatever reason Bungie just did something so right that the controls felt decent. I use my PS3 for gaming more than my PC (at least I did when I was big into MAG, all I play now is League of Legends), so my opinion is not biased on me being a long time KBM user, it's just a statement of fact that KBM is better suited for FPS gaming. And saying "KBM isn't supposed to be better than DS3 on PS3" is stupid, did you know that the PS3 has native support for KBM? Thats right, you can plug a KBM right into your PS3 and use them to navigate your videos, music, games, the webrowser, and the PS Store! So tell me, how is a KBM not a "normal" control option for the PS3?
I know it has native support. I stopped questioning those usb port thingys and the usefulness. I just find ot funny for the intire leagth of the argument for mouse support the ds3 players have said it will have nerfed turn speed and well you all sound surprise that ccp new game meant to lure in new players didnt make eve players feel like gods vs us lowly unworthy console player. Forgive us I full support improving turn speed for mouse people what was I thinking
Im enjoying this let me lmao. But truthfully the controls for either one feel clunky in this build so maybe once they fix the games movement in general it will get better wait till they fix that then see if kb/m is still messed up.
Almost forgot with that bit of honesty to grovel. Oh mighty evetards. Rofl. Smart*** is my job I do it well |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:45:00 -
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Avenger 245 wrote:I know it has native support. I stopped questioning those usb port thingys and the usefulness. I just find ot funny for the intire leagth of the argument for mouse support the ds3 players have said it will have nerfed turn speed and well you all sound surprise that ccp new game meant to lure in new players didnt make eve players feel like gods vs us lowly unworthy console player. Forgive us I full support improving turn speed for mouse people what was I thinking Im enjoying this let me lmao. But truthfully the controls for either one feel clunky in this build so maybe once they fix the games movement in general it will get better wait till they fix that then see if kb/m is still messed up. Almost forgot with that bit of honesty to grovel. Oh mighty evetards. Rofl. Smart*** is my job I do it well
EVEtard, yeah, thats what I am. I have an EVE account that was active back in december, and I reactivated it a couple days ago. Oh am I ever one godly EVEtard.
KBM was promised as it is on PC games, and here they deliver this BS gimped to **** version, so bad that I'd rather just used the DS3. All I can do is be disappointed, considering so far this build is nothing more than shiny. |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:47:00 -
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it's honestly probably for the best if the KB/M support either went away, or was just left to wither on the vine. it's going to be nothing but divisive.
anyone who actually believes it offers no tangible benefit, then why do you want it so badly? if it's all about preference and personal experience, give yourself time to acclimate to the gamepad. right?
and if you acknowledge the advantage it gives then... how is that fair? and any argument you can come up with for why it being fair shouldn't matter can immediately be turned back on you. oh it's the console gamers fault for not learning to use KB/M? maybe it's the pc gamers fault for not learning to use a gamepad?
so don't bother. at the end of the day, the PC gamers are in the console gamers house here, so tie goes to gamepad. |
Zero Harpuia
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:52:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:I know it has native support. I stopped questioning those usb port thingys and the usefulness. I just find ot funny for the intire leagth of the argument for mouse support the ds3 players have said it will have nerfed turn speed and well you all sound surprise that ccp new game meant to lure in new players didnt make eve players feel like gods vs us lowly unworthy console player. Forgive us I full support improving turn speed for mouse people what was I thinking Im enjoying this let me lmao. But truthfully the controls for either one feel clunky in this build so maybe once they fix the games movement in general it will get better wait till they fix that then see if kb/m is still messed up. Almost forgot with that bit of honesty to grovel. Oh mighty evetards. Rofl. Smart*** is my job I do it well EVEtard, yeah, thats what I am. I have an EVE account that was active back in december, and I reactivated it a couple days ago. Oh am I ever one godly EVEtard. KBM was promised as it is on PC games, and here they deliver this BS gimped to **** version, so bad that I'd rather just used the DS3. All I can do is be disappointed, considering so far this build is nothing more than shiny.
Grouping players by tank usage/EVE playing/input device preference is a good way to make enemies, especially when you only assume it. I look forward to blowing you up with my Forge Gun until the wipe Avenger, then you can come back and QQ about them some more, because a DS3 using, EVE playing, Forge Gunning fellow ended you with a lucky shot  |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:53:00 -
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Buzzwords wrote:it's honestly probably for the best if the KB/M support either went away, or was just left to wither on the vine. it's going to be nothing but divisive.
anyone who actually believes it offers no tangible benefit, then why do you want it so badly? if it's all about preference and personal experience, give yourself time to acclimate to the gamepad. right?
and if you acknowledge the advantage it gives then... how is that fair? and any argument you can come up with for why it being fair shouldn't matter can immediately be turned back on you. oh it's the console gamers fault for not learning to use KB/M? maybe it's the pc gamers fault for not learning to use a gamepad?
so don't bother. at the end of the day, the PC gamers are in the console gamers house here, so tie goes to gamepad.
In the end, the PS3 has native support for KBM, so **** your argument, SONY implemented this before CCP did.
And yes, it does give an advantage. An advantage that A) CCP can offer to all players without the need for a 3rd party device in the realm of $60-$100 or, B) players that want KBM can go out, buy a 3rd party device, **** you anyway, and now you don't have an easy way to retaliate.
I think it's fair to say that in the case of FPS games, console gamers are in the realm of PC gamers. As far as I know, Wolfenstein3D wasn't an Xbox title. I don't think DooM or DukeNukem were either.. Maybe Quake was? hmm... I guess I could be wrong though |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:54:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Grouping players by tank usage/EVE playing/input device preference is a good way to make enemies, especially when you only assume it. I look forward to blowing you up with my Forge Gun until the wipe Avenger, then you can come back and QQ about them some more, because a DS3 using, EVE playing, Forge Gunning fellow ended you with a lucky shot
It's nice to have people on my side for a change. |
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Zero Harpuia
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:56:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Buzzwords wrote:it's honestly probably for the best if the KB/M support either went away, or was just left to wither on the vine. it's going to be nothing but divisive.
anyone who actually believes it offers no tangible benefit, then why do you want it so badly? if it's all about preference and personal experience, give yourself time to acclimate to the gamepad. right?
and if you acknowledge the advantage it gives then... how is that fair? and any argument you can come up with for why it being fair shouldn't matter can immediately be turned back on you. oh it's the console gamers fault for not learning to use KB/M? maybe it's the pc gamers fault for not learning to use a gamepad?
so don't bother. at the end of the day, the PC gamers are in the console gamers house here, so tie goes to gamepad. In the end, the PS3 has native support for KBM, so **** your argument, SONY implemented this before CCP did. And yes, it does give an advantage. An advantage that A) CCP can offer to all players without the need for a 3rd party device in the realm of $60-$100 or, B) players that want KBM can go out, buy a 3rd party device, **** you anyway, and now you don't have an easy way to retaliate. I think it's fair to say that in the case of FPS games, console gamers are in the realm of PC gamers. As far as I know, Wolfenstein3D wasn't an Xbox title. I don't think DooM or DukeNukem were either.. Maybe Quake was? hmm... I guess I could be wrong though
Just a nitpick, but aren't the Keyboard and the mouse already third party devices? |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:58:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Just a nitpick, but aren't the Keyboard and the mouse already third party devices?
Depends, are they SONY brand? Or an off brand? |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:59:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Buzzwords wrote:it's honestly probably for the best if the KB/M support either went away, or was just left to wither on the vine. it's going to be nothing but divisive.
anyone who actually believes it offers no tangible benefit, then why do you want it so badly? if it's all about preference and personal experience, give yourself time to acclimate to the gamepad. right?
and if you acknowledge the advantage it gives then... how is that fair? and any argument you can come up with for why it being fair shouldn't matter can immediately be turned back on you. oh it's the console gamers fault for not learning to use KB/M? maybe it's the pc gamers fault for not learning to use a gamepad?
so don't bother. at the end of the day, the PC gamers are in the console gamers house here, so tie goes to gamepad. In the end, the PS3 has native support for KBM, so **** your argument, SONY implemented this before CCP did.
because your kb/m work so well that it was clearly meant to be the primary input, and always has been? especially for all those other shooters?
ps3 supported linux for a while to, we all make mistakes. |
Zero Harpuia
Maverick Conflict Solutions
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:59:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Just a nitpick, but aren't the Keyboard and the mouse already third party devices? Depends, are they SONY brand? Or an off brand?
I just use Logitech stuff from my Monster Hunter days, so I guess I'm third party trash.  |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:02:00 -
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Buzzwords wrote:because your kb/m work so well that it was clearly meant to be the primary input, and always has been? especially for all those other shooters?
ps3 supported linux for a while to, we all make mistakes.
So, linux was a mistake? As far as I can tell, the only time anyone made a fuss about it, was when they removed it. Just because developers don't choice to make a native option available, doesn't make it any less viable. Do all games support Move? I don't think so.
Just because a game supports something you don't like, doesn't make it a bad idea or a mistake. For those of us that were actually excited about a new -Exciting- game with the proper control scheme available, the current state of KBM is very disappointing. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:03:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Just a nitpick, but aren't the Keyboard and the mouse already third party devices? Depends, are they SONY brand? Or an off brand? I just use Logitech stuff from my Monster Hunter days, so I guess I'm third party trash.
Psh, I don't even know what brand my mouse is  Logitech definitely makes some quality stuff though. |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:06:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:I know it has native support. I stopped questioning those usb port thingys and the usefulness. I just find ot funny for the intire leagth of the argument for mouse support the ds3 players have said it will have nerfed turn speed and well you all sound surprise that ccp new game meant to lure in new players didnt make eve players feel like gods vs us lowly unworthy console player. Forgive us I full support improving turn speed for mouse people what was I thinking Im enjoying this let me lmao. But truthfully the controls for either one feel clunky in this build so maybe once they fix the games movement in general it will get better wait till they fix that then see if kb/m is still messed up. Almost forgot with that bit of honesty to grovel. Oh mighty evetards. Rofl. Smart*** is my job I do it well EVEtard, yeah, thats what I am. I have an EVE account that was active back in december, and I reactivated it a couple days ago. Oh am I ever one godly EVEtard. KBM was promised as it is on PC games, and here they deliver this BS gimped to **** version, so bad that I'd rather just used the DS3. All I can do is be disappointed, considering so far this build is nothing more than shiny. Grouping players by tank usage/EVE playing/input device preference is a good way to make enemies, especially when you only assume it. I look forward to blowing you up with my Forge Gun until the wipe Avenger, then you can come back and QQ about them some more, because a DS3 using, EVE playing, Forge Gunning fellow ended you with a lucky shot
Lookin foward to it my snipers lining up the shot right now.
I think im to drunk to be angry about stupid forges lol.
hey other guy I realy do think once movement in general is addresed it will get better for mouses so wait until.ccp checks into that before you going asking for an improvemnt to one system or the other. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:08:00 -
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Avenger 245 wrote:Lookin foward to it my snipers lining up the shot right now.
I think im to drunk to be angry about stupid forges lol.
hey other guy I realy do think once movement in general is addresed it will get better for mouses so wait until.ccp checks into that before you going asking for an improvemnt to one system or the other.
Movement isn't an issue for me, seems fine. It's turn speed. |
Zero Harpuia
Maverick Conflict Solutions
422
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:11:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Just a nitpick, but aren't the Keyboard and the mouse already third party devices? Depends, are they SONY brand? Or an off brand? I just use Logitech stuff from my Monster Hunter days, so I guess I'm third party trash. Psh, I don't even know what brand my mouse is Logitech definitely makes some quality stuff though.
Meh, I use the bargain basement stuff... on topic, although I prefer using the DS3, even if they had fully functional, PC like KB/M support, that isn't the issue. The issue is that they promised KB/M support since before the beta, and they need to come through with those promises to keep the goodwill of the playerbase. I know several people who quit in disgust over the debacle of KB/M.
...I HAVE IT!!! Let the mouse control crosshair roam and turning, but include turning controls ON THE KEYBOARD as well, maybe make them c.v.b.f. or something. You can still aim while turning at a preset speed. It isn't a perfect fix, but please take from this idea what you will. I would like to be credited, but don't let that stop you from making your own posts on the subject :P |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:13:00 -
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for the record, i see move as a worthless gimmick. but move is a HARMLESS worthless gimmick.
i don't think sonys mad dash to cash in on the popularity of the wii-mote with the retirement home crowd will ever be a legitimately good input device. there's a reason ps3 still comes with a dualshock in the box. |
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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:18:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Meh, I use the bargain basement stuff... on topic, although I prefer using the DS3, even if they had fully functional, PC like KB/M support, that isn't the issue. The issue is that they promised KB/M support since before the beta, and they need to come through with those promises to keep the goodwill of the playerbase. I know several people who quit in disgust over the debacle of KB/M.
...I HAVE IT!!! Let the mouse control crosshair roam and turning, but include turning controls ON THE KEYBOARD as well, maybe make them c.v.b.f. or something. You can still aim while turning at a preset speed. It isn't a perfect fix, but please take from this idea what you will. I would like to be credited, but don't let that stop you from making your own posts on the subject :P
So, that really -would- make it a wiimote lmao. That would just frustrate me more 
They said "we want KBM to feel like it does on any PC shooter" and then they trashed it, and said "here, you can pretend this is useful".
They should deliver on their promise of an ungimped, useful KBM control scheme. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:21:00 -
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Buzzwords wrote:for the record, i see move as a worthless gimmick. but move is a HARMLESS worthless gimmick.
i don't think sonys mad dash to cash in on the popularity of the wii-mote with the retirement home crowd will ever be a legitimately good input device. there's a reason ps3 still comes with a dualshock in the box.
Never used move before, but I've heard some people love it, and others can't stand it. It comes with a DS3 in the box, so that they can further their income when someone wants move.
I personally don't care if move is viable, I care if KBM is. Using a DS3 is awkward, clunky, and not meant for competitive play. |
Buzzwords
Deadly Blue Dots
RISE of LEGION
416
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:30:00 -
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and KB/M won't work in my lazy boy so..... we seem to be at an impasse'
if everybody was on DS3, it would at least be FAIR. and isn't that step ONE for competitive play?
bottom line is the VAST majority of PS3 players use gamepads. they probably game on PS3 because gaming on a pc with a KB/M setup is out of the question. i quite literally could not use a KB/M setup without remodeling... if i wanted to use PC inputs, i'd be playing on PC...
so you're asking for CCP to cater to the minority, and telling the rest of us it's our own damn fault? gamepad is simply how it's done on consoles, and it has worked fine so far
edit: and i've used a move, it's terrible for FPS. it has all the precision and responsiveness of a gamepad (worse actually) with all the ease of use of KB/M (also potentially worse.)
i don't think i've ever spoken to anyone who actually preferred it for fps. i think sony just pushes for move support so they can get another bullet point. |
Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:31:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:Lookin foward to it my snipers lining up the shot right now.
I think im to drunk to be angry about stupid forges lol.
hey other guy I realy do think once movement in general is addresed it will get better for mouses so wait until.ccp checks into that before you going asking for an improvemnt to one system or the other. Movement isn't an issue for me, seems fine. It's turn speed.
Walking aroung feels floaty and disconnecting, turning even for my ds3 feels wrong and now that aim assist is down I realise how the guns move around is awful. Maybe im to drunk ill find out tomarrow |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:48:00 -
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Buzzwords wrote:and KB/M won't work in my lazy boy so..... we seem to be at an impasse'
if everybody was on DS3, it would at least be FAIR. and isn't that step ONE for competitive play?
bottom line is the VAST majority of PS3 players use gamepads. they probably game on PS3 because gaming on a pc with a KB/M setup is out of the question. i quite literally could not use a KB/M setup without remodeling... if i wanted to use PC inputs, i'd be playing on PC...
so you're asking for CCP to cater to the minority, and telling the rest of us it's our own damn fault? gamepad is simply how it's done on consoles, and it has worked fine so far
edit: and i've used a move, it's terrible for FPS. it has all the precision and responsiveness of a gamepad (worse actually) with all the ease of use of KB/M (also potentially worse.)
i don't think i've ever spoken to anyone who actually preferred it for fps. i think sony just pushes for move support so they can get another bullet point.
You know how I played KBM games in a recliner? Get a piece of plywood, cut a rectangle out that can rest on the arms of your chair, and stick your KBM on it. TADA!
Implementing KBM is 100% fair, you're giving 100% of players, 100% opportunity, to use a 100% natural PS3 input device, to play a game on the PS3. Nothing unfair about it.
Not implementing KBM would be -unfair- because people like me would order ourselves an Eagle Eye or XIM3, and dominate DS3 users anyway. Asking them to not implement it because it's "unfair", is ignorant and misguided.
Im also willing to bet that a VAST majority of players in Dust 514 will not be out in NullSec fighting Sov wars, and will be in HighSec playing faction warfare matchmaking games. It's easy enough to only match KBM vs KBM and DS3 vs DS3. For those that are out in NullSec, either give them KBM right off the bat, or they'll find a way to get it anyway. |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
676
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:48:00 -
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Avenger 245 wrote:Walking aroung feels floaty and disconnecting, turning even for my ds3 feels wrong and now that aim assist is down I realise how the guns move around is awful. Maybe im to drunk ill find out tomarrow
I think it's fine, might be the alcohol. Wanna share? |
Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.15 20:04:00 -
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Avenger 245
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
477
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Posted - 2012.08.15 20:26:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:Walking aroung feels floaty and disconnecting, turning even for my ds3 feels wrong and now that aim assist is down I realise how the guns move around is awful. Maybe im to drunk ill find out tomarrow I think it's fine, might be the alcohol. Wanna share?
Yeah it was the alcohol, but the game pace did slow down and the turn speed in general is off for heavys let them fix that along with hit detection and lag before the start tweaking kb/m
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Veigar Mordekaiser
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2012.08.16 03:49:00 -
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Avenger 245 wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:Walking aroung feels floaty and disconnecting, turning even for my ds3 feels wrong and now that aim assist is down I realise how the guns move around is awful. Maybe im to drunk ill find out tomarrow I think it's fine, might be the alcohol. Wanna share? Yeah it was the alcohol, but the game pace did slow down and the turn speed in general is off for heavys let them fix that along with hit detection and lag before the start tweaking kb/m
I still don't have issues with hit detection. Ping is like real life bullet speed - you can't always aim directly at your target. In some cases it's obsurd (ie. leading 2 feet with a shot gun) but most the time it works well for me. Might just be my 25Mb/s connection speed though. |
Cherry Mercenary
Sanmatar Kelkoons
Minmatar Republic
12
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Posted - 2012.08.16 05:15:00 -
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Buzzwords wrote:for the record, i see move as a worthless gimmick. but move is a HARMLESS worthless gimmick.
i don't think sonys mad dash to cash in on the popularity of the wii-mote with the retirement home crowd will ever be a legitimately good input device. there's a reason ps3 still comes with a dualshock in the box.
Why is Move a harmless worthless gimmick, but not kb+m? |
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