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Zero Harpuia
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:16:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Longshot Ravenwood wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:The turn speed is pathetic. Which suits did you try the turn speed on? The turn speeds should vary based on which suit you're using. Is it comparable to DS3? In other words, are you able to turn at the same speed in the same suit with keyboard & mouse as you were with a DS3? Were you expecting an unfair advantage over DS3 players by being able to flip forward & backward in the blink of an eye just because you had a mouse & keyboard? The beta test is here to make sure that everyone enters a moderately level playing field. Enjoy! They were... similar to the DS3. Basically, you have a box that you can aim in. In that box, it's just like using KBM on any PC FPS game, snappy aiming, precise, yada yada. But, if you reach the egde of your box, BAM! it's like a wall of slow, you're stuck at the DS3 turn speed when you have the joystick pressed all the way to the side. In short, very unnatural, very ******. As stated above: Fivetimes Infinity wrote:I can't find the quote because Google only turns up stuff about this update, but they explicitly stated they wanted keyboard/mouse support that would make PC players feel like they're playing a FPS on the PC. They want the KB+M support to be flawless. So the fact that it is working like garbage is "a problem", and falls short of the target goal, whatever your opinion on using KB+M might be.
...so KB/M is actually WiiMote :P |
Zero Harpuia
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:52:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Avenger 245 wrote:I know it has native support. I stopped questioning those usb port thingys and the usefulness. I just find ot funny for the intire leagth of the argument for mouse support the ds3 players have said it will have nerfed turn speed and well you all sound surprise that ccp new game meant to lure in new players didnt make eve players feel like gods vs us lowly unworthy console player. Forgive us I full support improving turn speed for mouse people what was I thinking  Im enjoying this let me lmao. But truthfully the controls for either one feel clunky in this build so maybe once they fix the games movement in general it will get better wait till they fix that then see if kb/m is still messed up. Almost forgot with that bit of honesty to grovel. Oh mighty evetards. Rofl. Smart*** is my job I do it well  EVEtard, yeah, thats what I am. I have an EVE account that was active back in december, and I reactivated it a couple days ago. Oh am I ever one godly EVEtard. KBM was promised as it is on PC games, and here they deliver this BS gimped to **** version, so bad that I'd rather just used the DS3. All I can do is be disappointed, considering so far this build is nothing more than shiny.
Grouping players by tank usage/EVE playing/input device preference is a good way to make enemies, especially when you only assume it. I look forward to blowing you up with my Forge Gun until the wipe Avenger, then you can come back and QQ about them some more, because a DS3 using, EVE playing, Forge Gunning fellow ended you with a lucky shot  |
Zero Harpuia
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:56:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Buzzwords wrote:it's honestly probably for the best if the KB/M support either went away, or was just left to wither on the vine. it's going to be nothing but divisive.
anyone who actually believes it offers no tangible benefit, then why do you want it so badly? if it's all about preference and personal experience, give yourself time to acclimate to the gamepad. right?
and if you acknowledge the advantage it gives then... how is that fair? and any argument you can come up with for why it being fair shouldn't matter can immediately be turned back on you. oh it's the console gamers fault for not learning to use KB/M? maybe it's the pc gamers fault for not learning to use a gamepad?
so don't bother. at the end of the day, the PC gamers are in the console gamers house here, so tie goes to gamepad. In the end, the PS3 has native support for KBM, so **** your argument, SONY implemented this before CCP did. And yes, it does give an advantage. An advantage that A) CCP can offer to all players without the need for a 3rd party device in the realm of $60-$100 or, B) players that want KBM can go out, buy a 3rd party device, **** you anyway, and now you don't have an easy way to retaliate. I think it's fair to say that in the case of FPS games, console gamers are in the realm of PC gamers. As far as I know, Wolfenstein3D wasn't an Xbox title. I don't think DooM or DukeNukem were either.. Maybe Quake was? hmm... I guess I could be wrong though
Just a nitpick, but aren't the Keyboard and the mouse already third party devices? |
Zero Harpuia
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Posted - 2012.08.15 05:59:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Just a nitpick, but aren't the Keyboard and the mouse already third party devices? Depends, are they SONY brand? Or an off brand?
I just use Logitech stuff from my Monster Hunter days, so I guess I'm third party trash.  |
Zero Harpuia
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Posted - 2012.08.15 06:11:00 -
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Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Veigar Mordekaiser wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Just a nitpick, but aren't the Keyboard and the mouse already third party devices? Depends, are they SONY brand? Or an off brand? I just use Logitech stuff from my Monster Hunter days, so I guess I'm third party trash. Psh, I don't even know what brand my mouse is  Logitech definitely makes some quality stuff though.
Meh, I use the bargain basement stuff... on topic, although I prefer using the DS3, even if they had fully functional, PC like KB/M support, that isn't the issue. The issue is that they promised KB/M support since before the beta, and they need to come through with those promises to keep the goodwill of the playerbase. I know several people who quit in disgust over the debacle of KB/M.
...I HAVE IT!!! Let the mouse control crosshair roam and turning, but include turning controls ON THE KEYBOARD as well, maybe make them c.v.b.f. or something. You can still aim while turning at a preset speed. It isn't a perfect fix, but please take from this idea what you will. I would like to be credited, but don't let that stop you from making your own posts on the subject :P |
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